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Increasing toe hang on Soider Tour putter


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#1 Essex Chopper

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:14 PM

Hi, I have recently been fitted for a putter and advised that a model such as a Del Mar or Odyssey #9 would work best for my stroke. Maximum toe hang basically. The problem is I love my Spider Tour black with the 8g weights in it. My question is: Is it possible to increase the toe hang of my putter without affecting COG or it just feeling plain weird? J


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:46 PM

View PostEssex Chopper, on 08 January 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

Hi, I have recently been fitted for a putter and advised that a model such as a Del Mar or Odyssey #9 would work best for my stroke. Maximum toe hang basically. The problem is I love my Spider Tour black with the 8g weights in it. My question is: Is it possible to increase the toe hang of my putter without affecting COG or it just feeling plain weird? J


Not really. Unless you have someone weld on a new neck that's closer to the heel, you're not going to significantly affect toe hang. Such a creation would be a weird combo, though. A neck that encourages rotation and a putter that wants to resist it. That would be an interesting experiment.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:52 PM

Shouldn't impact toe hang.  You can always check yourself by putting it on a table and viewing the toe hang with the lighter, then heavier weights.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:56 AM

Thanks guys, I guess a new investment is required! Damn it 😂😂😂

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:24 AM

Do you love it because it works or because it looks cool? If you love it because it works, then screw the fitting.

Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't putting lead tape on the toe of the putter increase toe hang?


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:55 AM

In short, no. The #1 way you effect toe hang is via the design of the hosel/shaft. Spider has 45* toe hang because it's got a slant neck...Not really much you can do to change that.

#9 has so much hang because it's got a short flow neck that terminates almost right after the head.

In closing... It's very hard to give a putter more toe hang unless you've got a single/S bend shaft and you are willing to remove the shaft, tip it... and then re-attach. Even then, you need to be conscious of the hosel bore angle and how your lie will be affected.
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:37 AM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 12 January 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

In short, no. The #1 way you effect toe hang is via the design of the hosel/shaft. Spider has 45* toe hang because it's got a slant neck...Not really much you can do to change that.

#9 has so much hang because it's got a short flow neck that terminates almost right after the head.

In closing... It's very hard to give a putter more toe hang unless you've got a single/S bend shaft and you are willing to remove the shaft, tip it... and then re-attach. Even then, you need to be conscious of the hosel bore angle and how your lie will be affected.

Just as a clarification, the Spider Tour toe hang is in the high 30s, not 45. Even though it's a slant neck, it still doesn't have as much toe hang as your normal plumbers neck blade.
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:43 AM

View Postjll62, on 12 January 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostZ1ggy16, on 12 January 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

In short, no. The #1 way you effect toe hang is via the design of the hosel/shaft. Spider has 45* toe hang because it's got a slant neck...Not really much you can do to change that.

#9 has so much hang because it's got a short flow neck that terminates almost right after the head.

In closing... It's very hard to give a putter more toe hang unless you've got a single/S bend shaft and you are willing to remove the shaft, tip it... and then re-attach. Even then, you need to be conscious of the hosel bore angle and how your lie will be affected.

Just as a clarification, the Spider Tour toe hang is in the high 30s, not 45. Even though it's a slant neck, it still doesn't have as much toe hang as your normal plumbers neck blade.
38*... 45*.... it's about the same. It's somewhere between extreme hang and slight hang...

And yes I agree my Ody #1 had a touch more hang, but it's splitting hairs. If your stroke fits a #1 style plumbers, it'll pretty much fit into the Spider, too. I need about 45* hang but I do fine with putters in the 30s. I can't tell the difference.

Edited by Z1ggy16, 12 January 2018 - 08:44 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:45 AM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 12 January 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

View Postjll62, on 12 January 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostZ1ggy16, on 12 January 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

In short, no. The #1 way you effect toe hang is via the design of the hosel/shaft. Spider has 45* toe hang because it's got a slant neck...Not really much you can do to change that.

#9 has so much hang because it's got a short flow neck that terminates almost right after the head.

In closing... It's very hard to give a putter more toe hang unless you've got a single/S bend shaft and you are willing to remove the shaft, tip it... and then re-attach. Even then, you need to be conscious of the hosel bore angle and how your lie will be affected.

Just as a clarification, the Spider Tour toe hang is in the high 30s, not 45. Even though it's a slant neck, it still doesn't have as much toe hang as your normal plumbers neck blade.
38*... 45*.... it's about the same. It's somewhere between extreme hang and slight hang...

And yes I agree my Ody #1 had a touch more hang, but it's splitting hairs. If your stroke fits a #1 style plumbers, it'll pretty much fit into the Spider, too. I need about 45* hang but I do fine with putters in the 30s. I can't tell the difference.

I guess it depends on the player. 8 degree separation is pretty noticeable to me and how the head responds on the backstroke. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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