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#31 Petunia Sprinkle

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:33 PM

View Postoikos1, on 09 January 2018 - 12:42 AM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 08 January 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

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View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 07 January 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

I suppose it's next to impossible to have that "I just found a guitar in the jungle" experience with golf (more likely to kill supper with it).

Huh? Found a guitar in the jungle experience?

It refers to a 20th century myth of wondrous virtuosi from a primitive tribe who found a guitar in the jungle, one day. Completely isolated from civilization, they were left to their own devices in learning how to play the instrument.
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#32 Petunia Sprinkle

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:34 PM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 09 January 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 08 January 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

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View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 07 January 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

I suppose it's next to impossible to have that "I just found a guitar in the jungle" experience with golf (more likely to kill supper with it).

Huh? Found a guitar in the jungle experience?

It refers to a 20th century myth of wondrous virtuosi from a primitive tribe who found a guitar in the jungle, one day. Completely isolated from civilization, they were left to their own devices in learning how to play the instrument.

Did they have Youtube? Because really, that's all you need.

This was pre-UHF.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:38 PM

View Postmdhacker123, on 07 January 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

So ive always said golf instructors are like mechanics, most are not going to fix your problem, you will over pay and in the end you will end up going elsewhere. however, once you find one that works stick with him/her. reading through the best teachers(golf digest) i noticed the insane rates some of these teachers charge. i believe the lowest one was $150 hr, quite a few in the $175-$200 range and a large portion $500 plus and some even going over $1000 plus, to the highest david pelz for the day $20,000(wth). to me that is insane and a complete waste, again my own opinion but considering in the last 25 yrs the average handicap has dropped a big whooping 2 strokes. And is that from the instruction or from the technology in equipment, balls, yardages and a lot of other tools.

now im not saying boycott golf instruction but lets use common sense, unless your loaded and money doesnt mean much to you. but these guys arent doctors(self titled swing doctors doesnt count), they arent saving lives or curing diseases(yips doesnt count either) and find it unreasonable to request to be paid that amount of money, but hey if people are paying them who is the idiot(not in a mean way). ive been lucky enough to click with an instructor who has helped me a small amount in my game and it cost me a fraction (several lessons for under $200). i just find it mind boggling that someone would pay $500 plus an hour to someone which stats and history shows will most likely not improve your game and most likely you will be sneaking another instructor within the same year.

just a random post after seeing the hourly rates posted next to them. curious on others opinions

Might make me sound insane... but I think I would get more happiness from an hour lesson with Monte than an hour talk with a psychiatrist.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:43 AM

View PostSean2, on 08 January 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

You can get a great bottle of wine for $400...you can also get one for $20. :-)
This is exactly the right comparison. You can't know what's in the bottle until you remove the cork, and by that time it's too late.  But there is nonetheless an important distinction between the two and that is that it is very difficult to buy an outright poor bottle at $400. Really it is that near-certainty that you are paying for (ie it's not finding the best, it's avoiding the mediocre) , which can arguably be worth it given how many poor teachers there are out there and how much of a detrimental impact they can have.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:10 AM

Many pay big bucks for 4 year degrees that do not prepare a student for the real world. ie: a communications degree with no technology courses. But, we find that acceptable. So, if you pay 200-1,000 for a few lessons, what's the big deal.

Edited by Tanner25, 12 January 2018 - 07:11 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:46 AM

I am sure location has something to do with it. I would imagine its more expensive in So Cal just because. Also, why did you put your I in quotes?
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:19 AM

Plumber comes to fix a boiler, taps it once with a hammer and it starts working.

Plumber 'that'll be $200'.

Homeowner 'what, you only took a minute and tapped it with a hammer, how can that be $200'

Plumber ' $10 for tapping it with a hammer. $190 for knowing where to tap it'

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:16 AM

View PostTanner25, on 12 January 2018 - 07:10 AM, said:

Many pay big bucks for 4 year degrees that do not prepare a student for the real world. ie: a communications degree with no technology courses. But, we find that acceptable. So, if you pay 200-1,000 for a few lessons, what's the big deal.

Totally agree, but just thought I'd throw it out there that I know engineering majors who know far less than communications majors, engineers who passed the classes but have no applicable knowledge... I know the other way around too.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:19 AM

Don't a lot of PGA Tour Instructors get paid like caddies -- where they get some percentage of the players winnings?

I'd imagine that guys like Pelz charging $20k is like a contractor for a home remodel quote being significantly higher than everyone else.  They may do great work, but they are so busy and/or don't want to do the job, so they throw out a ridiculous number to make it worth their time.

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