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#31 FairwayFred

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 11:50 PM

Hold the phone, the 435 is no longer for sale.  Reshafted it today and was getting ball speeds I've never seen before.  Still have a ZY7 and the Labospec on the way to try to also.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:20 PM

Damn Fred, did u see the JBEAM Bullet ?????  That is the "true" update for the ZY11......gamed on the Japan Long driver tour right now !!!!

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:45 PM

YES want to see one of those Bullets in person bad......

The face profile is amazing.

Loving the 435 Black right now......
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:48 PM

they are tough to get at the moment....probably have to order from Japan

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 09:32 PM

I love the high toe profile.  Wonder if I could tame that beast?
Going to be hard to beat the 435 Black.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 10:14 PM

please get one in a 9-9.5. : )

* there is a secondary market for that one

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 10:32 PM

 FairwayFred, on 22 January 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

YES want to see one of those Bullets in person bad......

The face profile is amazing.

Loving the 435 Black right now......

I just purchased a Bullet from Rakuten and will post pictures once it arrives. Might take a few weeks to arrive but we'll see.

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 12:05 AM

I feel like Jbeam kinda ripped off PRGR with that high toe design. None the less, that Bullet is a damn good looking long stick. I have always wondered if that high toe exacerbates toe droop :D
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Posted 24 January 2018 - 06:44 AM

 Kingcat990, on 24 January 2018 - 12:05 AM, said:

I feel like Jbeam kinda ripped off PRGR with that high toe design. None the less, that Bullet is a damn good looking long stick. I have always wondered if that high toe exacerbates toe droop :D

I was thinking more of my old trusty Adams 9015d for a high toe look...

A lower profile head with the COG further away from the shaft ( vs deep face ) would make toe droop worse - but get a nunchuk shaft and forget about toe droop altogether ;-)


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

Got the JBeam Bullet delivered today and I think it looks pretty good.  I've never been crazy about the ketchup and mustard color scheme but it's not that big of a deal and I can always change that easily.

Looking forward to getting it out on the range to see how it performs, especially with the Fujikura Speeder Platinum shaft.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:03 PM

Pretty orgasmic. But you're right, the ketchup/mustard does it no favors :D. Let us know how it sounds.
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 07:40 PM

Which loft did u get ????  Anxiously waiting for the review on this one.  I used to game the ZY-11 and this looks like a nice replacement.  Is your Bullet foamed ??

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 07:44 PM

First dibs on the Bullet if you decide to sell.....
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 08:15 PM

 puresurfr, on 31 January 2018 - 07:40 PM, said:

Which loft did u get ????  Anxiously waiting for the review on this one.  I used to game the ZY-11 and this looks like a nice replacement.  Is your Bullet foamed ??

I have to get the loft measured since JBeam doesn't put lofts on their clubheads. It was used so the seller didn't know the loft.  Admittedly it was a bit of a gamble but I'll see how it performs.  It might be better that I don't know, especially if I hit it really well.

The Bullet head isn't foamed and has the potential to be a little loud based on bouncing a few golf balls off of it.  I had to add some hotmelt to my Crazy FX BM-435 to calm down the head some but I could easily add some polyfil through one of the weight ports if the sound is too annoying.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:15 PM

I'll agree that the BM 435 looks closed to me but I just open it a tad and all is forgiven as I think it's a gorgeous driver head. I use it anytime I play below 50* f. because I don't have to worry about busting another composite head. With an added 14g. of hot melt and a Black TP7HD this 9* BM-435 turned into Beast Mode. It's a workable, wind-fighter, that hits the ground running like a scalded dog.

I've recently built a 10* ZY-11 with an XXPHLEXX Agera Red Stripe. I've only had a small range session due to weather conditions but it seems a little more controllable (may just be the extra loft) and runs out a little more. Anxiously awaiting a 60* day to put it through its paces.

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 12:05 PM

 nitram, on 31 January 2018 - 09:15 PM, said:

I'll agree that the BM 435 looks closed to me but I just open it a tad and all is forgiven as I think it's a gorgeous driver head. I use it anytime I play below 50* f. because I don't have to worry about busting another composite head. With an added 14g. of hot melt and a Black TP7HD this 9* BM-435 turned into Beast Mode. It's a workable, wind-fighter, that hits the ground running like a scalded dog.

I've recently built a 10* ZY-11 with an XXPHLEXX Agera Red Stripe. I've only had a small range session due to weather conditions but it seems a little more controllable (may just be the extra loft) and runs out a little more. Anxiously awaiting a 60* day to put it through its paces.

I have a ZY-11 shafted with a Crazy LY-01 and a Crazy FX BM-435 shafted with a Fubuki Alpha 70.  The Bullet is going to have to perform very well in order to unseat those two.  Especially the ZY-11 since it sounds/feels so good being a foamed head.

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 12:35 PM

435 Blackout still in the bag.

Got a ZY7, great head just doesnt quite get up in the air enough for me.  Very low spin and long.  Someone with a higher launch could just kill this thing.

435 Blackout is close to perfect.  Have another head being made to spec and foamed.  Would love to try the Bullet but I don't know if I could tame that beast.
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Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:02 PM

Soooooooooo.......any updates on the Jbeam Bullet ????  Launch monitor data. : )

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:12 PM

 puresurfr, on 05 February 2018 - 08:02 PM, said:

Soooooooooo.......any updates on the Jbeam Bullet ????  Launch monitor data. : )

No unfortunately not. I haven't even hit it yet due to the weather here in Nashville. If it's not snowing it's raining and has been this way for a while. I will try and get out to Golf Galaxy to use the monitor to at least see what numbers it might put up this weekend hopefully. Couldn't do it this past weekend due to the wife's birthday.

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:55 PM

Sounds good...I like your taste in Drivers and Dogs !


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:42 PM

I'm sorry 03trdblack, I selfishly want you to get your ovaries out on that snowy wet grass and hit that damn driver so we can get a report :D

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:12 AM

 Kingcat990, on 06 February 2018 - 11:42 PM, said:

I'm sorry 03trdblack, I selfishly want you to get your ovaries out on that snowy wet grass and hit that damn driver so we can get a report :D

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When I moved to Nashville, I fully expected better winter weather than we've had this year.....I want my money back.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:51 AM

 03trdblack, on 07 February 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

 Kingcat990, on 06 February 2018 - 11:42 PM, said:

I'm sorry 03trdblack, I selfishly want you to get your ovaries out on that snowy wet grass and hit that damn driver so we can get a report :D

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When I moved to Nashville, I fully expected better winter weather than we've had this year.....I want my money back.

Drive down I-24 to Sweetens Cove the ball runs like crazy out there in the fwy the Bullet would go for miles...........

If you do make sure to show it to Patrick in the pro shop.......

Edited by FairwayFred, 07 February 2018 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:31 PM

Finally had a good weather day and I was able to get out to the range to hit the Bullet.  I also brought out my Crazy FX BM-435 and JBeam ZY-11 to compare.  It was a fun comparison all the way around.  Here's how each are set up:

Crazy FX BM-435 w/ Mitsubishi Fubuki Alpha 70 S flex - 44.5" w/ hotmelt
JBeam ZY-11 w/ Crazy Regenesis Longest Yard 01 SR flex - 45"
JBeam Bullet w/ Fujikura Speeder Platinum S flex - 45.5"

No launch monitor numbers yet but I'm hoping to get some tomorrow if possible.  The 3 drivers aren't set up exactly the same but I can still give impressions of each.  I also have a driver loft measuring device coming so I can verify each of the lofts.  Once I do I'll add the measurements.

First swing with the Bullet was high toe impact which I'm guess is what this club was designed for.

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Quick Comparisons:

Sound/Feel:

Crazy 435 - Sound has been muted heavily due to the hotmelt that was added.  Has a deep metallic thump to it and much more solid feel now
ZY-11 - Crisp metallic crack due to the foamed head
Bullet - Tinny and hollow sounding and the worst sounding of the 3.  That doesn't mean it sounds or feels bad in any way but compared to the others it doesn't sound as powerful.  It sounds like the walls of the club are much thinner.  I may add some polyfill to deepen the sound some.

Trajectory:

Crazy 435 - Lowest of the 3.  I hit mid height missiles that will roll forever.  I would choose this driver on a windy day for sure
ZY-11 - Highest trajectory of the 3 but very low spin.  Ball shot up quickly but then just carries for miles.  Truly high launch, low spin
Bullet -  Somewhere in the middle of the other two.  I could hit some very high shots and also some lower shots depending on where on the face I made contact.  Shots hit higher on the face and toward the toe had a higher trajectory than shots hit in the middle.

Shot Shape:

Crazy 435 - Fairly straight trajectory but could hit draws pretty easily
ZY-11 - Had a harder time turning this over.  Shots favor a straight to slightly fade trajectory.  Easy to aim slightly down the left and let it cut back 5 yards to the right.  Very dependable.
Bullet - Very easy to hit draws as I believe the face is a little closed.  Opposite to the ZY-11, I could aim down the right and easily rely on it coming back to the middle. Did have one or two that went a little too far left but nothing scary.  

I'll take some comparison pictures of all 3 clubs and continue to update this thread.  I'll also add in some launch monitor numbers if I can get some over the next day or two.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:19 PM

Finally was able to get some launch monitor numbers to go along with the range session posted yesterday.  Most of the numbers confirmed what I was seeing at the range yesterday but obviously it was a different day and everyone can swing slightly different from day to day.  I was using whatever ball Golf Galaxy had in their hitting bay which I believe was a Maxfil ball of some kind (hard cover and probably a 2 piece distance ball).

Just for fun I also brought along my OnOff CB358 shafted with a Graphite Designs PT-6X that picked up from GolfWRX member 3_Putt_Par (awesome person by the way).  It actually outperformed the JBeam drivers on the monitors today but all were similar.  I swung each club in the order listed so swing speed increased just slightly towards the end as I was fully warmed up.

Crazy 435:

Club Head Speed - 100.8 mph
Ball Speed - 146.3 mph
Launch Angle - 10.4
Total Spin - 2396
Peak Height - 24
Carry - 241.3
Total Distance - 271.3
Offline - 11 yards left (draw)

JBeam ZY-11:

Club Head Speed - 101.1 mph
Ball Speed - 146.6 mph
Launch Angle - 10.6
Total Spin - 2317
Peak Height - 24
Carry - 243.0
Total Distance - 273.0
Offline - 13 yards left (draw)

JBeam Bullet:

Club Head Speed - 101.4 mph
Ball Speed - 147 mph
Launch Angle - 11.6
Total Spin - 2248
Peak Height - 26
Carry - 245.0
Total Distance - 275.0
Offline - 29 yards left (draw)

OnOff CB358:

Club Head Speed - 101.9 mph
Ball Speed - 147.7 mph
Launch Angle - 12.6
Total Spin - 2132
Peak Height - 28
Carry - 253
Total Distance - 282.0
Offline - 14 yards left (draw)

Rankings listed below:

Club Head Speed (Highest to Lowest):

1. OnOff CB358 - 101.9 mph
2. JBeam Bullet - 101.4 mph
3. JBeam ZY-11 - 101.1 mph
4. Crazy FX BM-435 - 100.8 mph (heaviest shaft of the group)

Ball Speed (Not real since it's calculated by machine):

1. OnOff CB358 - 147.7 mph
2. JBeam Bullet - 147 mph
3. JBeam ZY-11 - 146.6 mph
4. Crazy FX BM-435 - 146.3 mph

Launch Angle (Highest to Lowest):

1. OnOff CB358 - 12.6*
2. JBeam Bullet - 11.6*
3. JBeam ZY-11 - 10.6*
4. Crazy FX BM-435 - 10.4*

Spin Rate (Lowest to Highest)

1. OnOff CB358 - 2132 rpm
2. JBeam Bullet - 2248 rpm
3. JBeam ZY-11 - 2317 rpm
4. Crazy FX BM-435 - 2396 rpm

Peak Height (Highest to Lowest)

1. OnOff CB358 - 28 yards
2. JBeam Bullet - 26 yards
3. JBeam ZY-11 & Crazy FX BM-435 (tie) - 24 yards

Carry Distance (Longest to Shortest)

1. OnOff CB358 - 253 yards
2. JBeam Bullet - 245 yards
3. JBeam ZY-11 - 243 yards
4. Crazy FX BM-435 - 241.3 yards

Total Distance (Longest to Shortest)

1. OnOff CB358 - 282 yards
2. JBeam Bullet - 275 yards
3. JBeam ZY-11 - 273 yards
4. Crazy FX BM-435 - 271.3

Offline (Least to Most)

1. Crazy FX BM-435 - 11 yards left (draw)
2. JBeam ZY-11 - 13 yards left (draw)
3. OnOff CB385 - 14 yards left (draw)
4. JBeam Bullet - 29 yards left (draw) - I hit this farthest left on the range also.  Face sits closed at address.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:41 PM

Hey 03, way to rub salt into the wound and making me second think my decision to sell the CB358.  Nice numbers!
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:04 PM

 3_Putt_Par, on 10 February 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

Hey 03, way to rub salt into the wound and making me second think my decision to sell the CB358.  Nice numbers!

I promise that wasn't my intention! :)

I thought the PT was going to be too stiff but with those numbers I think I'll leave it alone for sure.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:18 PM

You know I'm just kidding.  ;)

Really glad to hear the PT worked out for you.  Looking at those numbers, there's not much left to improve upon other than tightening that draw up a bit, which will come as you hit it more and get used to the shaft.

Hope the weather warms up so you can go bombs away on the course with the CB358.
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#59 ThorntonMelon

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:13 AM

Great analysis.

Were the shafts similar enough that one could conclude that 358 head was indeed longer?

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:15 PM

All nice clubs you’ve got there, 03.  One note: it appears you were hitting on a GC2, which measures ball speed but assumes a smash factor, so take the swing speed numbers with a grain of salt.  Divide your ball speed by swing speed and you’ll get a constant 1.45.


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