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Is it possible for a weekend golfer to get near scratch?


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#151 Lincoln_Arcadia

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:29 PM

View PostPepperturbo, on 09 January 2018 - 03:21 PM, said:

I like how it feels having to fight; its a feeling I don't get playing against higher handicaps...winning against a 10 or.. just isn't satisfying.
That's because we fall apart as soon as we see the ball striking of a low single digit player. LOL


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 09:23 PM

As mentioned earlier, practice can help but you really get good by playing. Even if it's only 4-5 holes per day.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:53 PM

View Postnitram, on 09 January 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

As mentioned earlier, practice can help but you really get good by playing. Even if it's only 4-5 holes per day.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:14 PM

One thing about starting young, is that I'm assuming most that do start young have solid mechanics or ones that they can make very consistent.  Golfers who start late (or like me who started early but very sporadically and incorrectly) spend a lot of time trying to get to a good swing where there are minimal compensations leading to a reliable swing.  

I'm just theorizing, to me once that swing is achieved (as in the golfer understands and can execute the proper fundamentals) then there is a baseline achieved.  The better the swing is, the easier it is to hit better shots.  The worse the swing is, the harder it is to hit better shots consistently.  It does sound like OP already is a good golfer, being a single digit handicap, and probably can get to low single digits by playing a lot more.  And his swing is unlikely the factor holding him back since he's happy with his long game (although who knows maybe minor adjustments are needed to help him hit the 100 yard shots better).  Or it's just distance control.  Wedges are generally where I feel it's easier to hit because it hides some face path problems.  I would really practice the short game and also the approach game just hitting to certain distances inside 100 yards.  I've gotten a lot better at those shots so it feels automatic.  Like I know a 60 yard is a 60 degree wedge to about waist height etc.  Then taking that on course is a different story lol with all the different factors.  

So it really depends on what the causes to OP's issues are.  Is his problem area a question of mechanics or is it due to lack of practice (reps) or is it due to not playing enough?  If it's mechanics then could probably still get there with some lessons.  If it's not playing enough then playing on weekends isn't helping much.
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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:24 PM

Or you can be like me, who started young and was taught all the wrong things.  I got to single digits in spite of my instruction.  Without that instructor, well, ADRIAN, I COULDA BEEN A CONTENDA....

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:27 AM

I think anyone can get near scratch by just playing their game and just getting good at what is consistent for them every day. Too often you see people fighting their natural tendencies by trying to develop a "tour swing" and hitting all kinds of positions. Tons of people are way over mechanical and if shots do not look impressive then they are thought to be bad. For instance, my friend and I were talking today. He is a good player who had just shot a 75 despite "poor ballstriking" because he clubbed up and just hit fades instead of forcing draws. Lots of people can play golf swing but very few try to just play golf. To answer the question, yes, a weekend golfer who has consistent ball striking tendencies and a decent short game (not losing a ton of strokes) could be at or near scratch after a year or so of learning how to play their game
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 11:55 AM

View Postethanshapiro, on 11 January 2018 - 12:27 AM, said:

To answer the question, yes, a weekend golfer who has consistent ball striking tendencies and a decent short game (not losing a ton of strokes) could be at or near scratch after a year or so of learning how to play their game
No one would disagree with the stipulation that with consistent ball striking you could get to scratch, but that's the key difference between a near scratch or scratch player and everyone else.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:41 PM

Yes possible. No not likely for the typical person who works until 5pm on weekdays. Running to the course from work hungry and tired from May to Sept when there's enough daylight probably isn't going to cut it. You almost never work on short game and are rushing.


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:48 PM

View Postjbw749, on 11 January 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

Yes possible. No not likely for the typical person who works until 5pm on weekdays. Running to the course from work hungry and tired from May to Sept when there's enough daylight probably isn't going to cut it. You almost never work on short game and are rushing.

You would have to be truly committed to your craft. He would need a hitting station at home for sure.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:55 PM

View PostObee, on 11 January 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

View Postjbw749, on 11 January 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

Yes possible. No not likely for the typical person who works until 5pm on weekdays. Running to the course from work hungry and tired from May to Sept when there's enough daylight probably isn't going to cut it. You almost never work on short game and are rushing.

You would have to be truly committed to your craft. He would need a hitting station at home for sure.

Yeah that's why I said possible. Some crazy folk will make time.


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:15 PM

I do have a net and a mat at my house in my garage. But I really can’t hit more than a 4 iron out there. And I have no launch monitor.  But I am trying to talk the wife into letting my get a skytrak.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:47 AM

View Postjbw749, on 11 January 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

Yes possible. No not likely for the typical person who works until 5pm on weekdays. Running to the course from work hungry and tired from May to Sept when there's enough daylight probably isn't going to cut it. You almost never work on short game and are rushing.
that sounds familiar, and I wonder why my short game can suck at times :lol:

View Post00bolt, on 11 January 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

I do have a net and a mat at my house in my garage. But I really can’t hit more than a 4 iron out there. And I have no launch monitor.  But I am trying to talk the wife into letting my get a skytrak.

I can only hit a 3/4 9 iron in my garage, I actually think this helps my full swing as it keeps me more in sync
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:22 AM

you're basically following the same path i did.

i did not play golf growing up at all, i played baseball/basketball/football and that was quite enough. i didn't even pick up the game until after my wife and i started dating, and she asked if i wanted to play golf with her dad. how was i to say no?

anyway, i think this will be my 9th year playing, and i took 18mos off when we had our first kid. my wife went through medical residency, and with a kid and a full time job there just wasn't any way.  

i played about a couple years just goofing around having fun at work outings, occasional rounds with friends, etc. maybe about my 3rd year i bought clubs, started practicing, and keeping a handicap. i went from a 20+ to a 12 in a year, then a 12 to about a 7, quit for 18mos, then 7 to 5, 5 to 2, and 2 to where i am now. and now, we have two kids, and we both work FULL time.

i'm fortunate to live on the course now, but it's still a challenge time wise. it's all about priorities. i don't play much more than you, generally a weekend golfer as well....but i FIND TIME to practice almost every day. i also can't stress enough the importance of keeping stats and knowing what you need to work on to maximize your practice time.

even if it was just throwing the putter in the car, leaving 10min early, and sneaking into work 5 or 10 min late, i would stop by the course and go through my putting drill. spring and fall i would pack my lunch, not go out with co workers, and go to the course to practice. i'd bail out of work early to go hit balls, and then catch up on work after everybody else went to bed.  in your case, i'd basically keep a couple wedges in your car at all times, and if even if you've only got 20min to practice, just go hit a small bucket or whatever of wedges, then spend 5 min on whatever chip/pitch you rely on around the greens.  

oh, and go get some foam practice balls. i chip around the house onto/over furniture with those. my 4yo son also loves to whack at them with his plastic clubs.  i'll also just spend 10min or whatever inside working on whatever movement in my swing needs attention. doesn't have to be a full swing-actually EXTREMELY slow motion is really good practice i think. no reason you can't do that too.

recently, with our 2nd kid, time has been even more difficult to come by. i quit going to the gym over the last year and instead traded it for practice time.

my original goal when i first bought clubs was getting to single digits. that happened fast, so i said...ok...lets see if i can get below 5. that came shortly after. now i feel like i have no excuses, i can play with anybody, and will focus on tournaments. the point being is that you should have short term goals and long term - don't set your sights too low.

don't ask for reasons you CAN'T get to scratch being a weekend player - ask yourself how you're going to make it happen.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:29 AM

Mental game and read books. Use your brain, you can do anything.

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