[Andariego]

I know he's one of the best in the world, but the rest of the field was really grinding out every shot today. Nobody was grinding harder than Trevor. Snedeker's quick preshot routine seemed hurried and strangely out of place. It may work Thursday thru Saturday, but you would think Sunday at the Masters would require some more preshot attention. Again he's one of the best, it just seem hurried and not thought out.

[thenewbie]

why would someone purposefully CHANGE their preshot routine under preasure? thats pretty much the worst idea ever.

[AcesAZ]

Actually I would say you are 100 percent wrong. You need to have the same routine from Thursday to Sunday. Even Faldo said to stick to your routine especially when the pressure is on. Snedeker just plays extremely fast, no reason to change because it's Sunday.

[archer32]

Yeah, that hit it before you have time to think about it thing never worked well for Tom Watson either.

You dont change your preshot routine just because it's sunday.

[Swingtheclub]

thenewbie, on Apr 13 2008, 07:56 PM, said:

why would someone purposefully CHANGE their preshot routine under preasure? thats pretty much the worst idea ever.

I totally agree that you do not change your routine. Honestly though Brandt looked quick at times for him I think he was very nervous I also got the same read from Flesh he looked rushed on his putting .

But nope you would not want to change the routine, the best play the same all the time.


Ken

[MrMorganUSC]

If you aren't a fan of him anymore because you don't agree with his pre shot routine.....that is just crazy....I could understand if he yelled expletives like other golfers *cough* tiger *cough*

This guy just seems happy go lucky and is alwauys smiling and waving at the fans.....how could you not be a fan of that?

Scott

[philfan316]

HE'S GOING BRETT FAVRE IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW. He is ready to turn on the waterworks.

[rblmp32]

He seemed to spend plenty of time planning the shot before he was locked and loaded. So long as the shot is well thought out, who cares how long it takes him to actually play it.

[squarre]

Not to pile on, but like everyone else why change what got there?

[randrews581]

How can you fault a guy for sticking to a consistent pre-shot routine all week, one that got him into the final group on sunday at the Masters? Watching his happy-go-lucky, devil-may-care attitude this week made me fall in love with the guy and seeing him struggle through his press conference just moments ago makes me wanna pull for him all the more. I only hope for good things for Brandt and his career going forward.

[Andariego]

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grinding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.

[buggyman]

more people need to have a pre-shot routine like Snedekers. 99% of players are too damn slow. Slow play is one of the, if not biggest complaint golfers have. Yet some 20 hcp'r see's joe pro on TV take 15 minutes before each shot and thinks that will help his game. They line up a 40 footer for triple. If more players would think of the set up, step to the ball and swing they would most likely play better. However most am's stay over the ball too long and bring negative thoughts into their heads (like don't hit it in water or bunker). I taught golf for 2 years before a career change and I would always teach a preshot routine just like Snedekers. I think it is something more need to do, and after watching him I was actually going to start a thread praising it. Plus I think his final round was right on average with the field.

[headcase59]

I think we will be seeing a whole lot more of Snedeker in the years to come. As for his preshot routine, a whole lot more of us should prolly adobt his faster pace. I know I tend to over think a bunch of shots on the course.

[McGuire]

Snedecker was just happy to be there , that meltdown wasnt unexpected by him or anyone else. Actually he surprised us by not shooting 80. That quick routine is fine for the JohnDeere Classics but not when its really needed .. .but really he was just happy to be there.

[DRGJR72]

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grin
rding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.



I would hate to see what you think of your friends if they don't adhere to your strict code of conduct. (no offense just seems like you are ripping him for silly reasons)

The guy is one of the best players in the world. I for one would never second guess or criticize his pre shot routine as it has gotten him to where he is today. Maybe he was quick, maybe he was not. Bottom line is this was not his time. He is a solid player and will win one someday. It was just not his time.

The length of time one takes in their pre shot routine has little impact on the level of their play. I would actually argue that the more time you take in pressure situations, the more time negative thoughts can creep in. Sometimes people are better at reacting and not thinking to much before a shot of importance.

Take DLIII and his putting routine. He sped that up before he won the PGA. Very quick, IMO.

Whatever it was, it did not work for him today, that much I agree with....but give the guy a break, he was in second place going into the final round of the masters and gave himself a chance to win, with that routine. Has to have some merit.

Dan

[Kentsp1]

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grinding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.

You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever been under the gun in an actual competitive round? NBA basketball players all have the same "pre-shot" routine during a free throw even if it's to win the game. Go talk to any sports psychologist they will teach you to have your pre-shot routine match ur cadences. If your a quick, decisive person then your golf swing should match this cadence. Ultimately Snedeker got a little tight because he had never been in that position before. IT HAPPENS!!!....

[Andariego]

Kentsp1, on Apr 13 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grinding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.

You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever been under the gun in an actual competitive round? NBA basketball players all have the same "pre-shot" routine during a free throw even if it's to win the game. Go talk to any sports psychologist they will teach you to have your pre-shot routine match ur cadences. If your a quick, decisive person then your golf swing should match this cadence. Ultimately Snedeker got a little tight because he had never been in that position before. IT HAPPENS!!!....

relax there buddy. My point is his preshot routine does not seem adaptable to different situations.....that being the back nine on Sunday at the Masters.

Please answer honestly, if thats possible. Do you spend the same amout of time over a 6 iron on the first hole of a tourney, as opposed the last hole to win the club championship..????

[victor2000]

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:34 PM, said:

Kentsp1, on Apr 13 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grinding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.

You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever been under the gun in an actual competitive round? NBA basketball players all have the same "pre-shot" routine during a free throw even if it's to win the game. Go talk to any sports psychologist they will teach you to have your pre-shot routine match ur cadences. If your a quick, decisive person then your golf swing should match this cadence. Ultimately Snedeker got a little tight because he had never been in that position before. IT HAPPENS!!!....

relax there buddy. My point is his preshot routine does not seem adaptable to different situations.....that being the back nine on Sunday at the Masters.

Please answer honestly, if thats possible. Do you spend the same amout of time over a 6 iron on the first hole of a tourney, as opposed the last hole to win the club championship..????

So what actually are you trying to say? That because Snedeker's pre shot routine was quick he didn't care about winning????? Are you really serious???

[BEND OF THE RIVER GC]

thenewbie, on Apr 13 2008, 07:56 PM, said:

why would someone purposefully CHANGE their preshot routine under preasure? thats pretty much the worst idea ever.

Were you expectinghim to be Ben Crane?

[Andariego]

wow the beers must be flowing around here....I have great respect for Snedeker and his game. I just think he needs to adapt to the pressures at hand a little better. And spend some more time grooving whatever he needs to groove. Come on now...Trevor was grinding.

[thenewbie]

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:34 PM, said:

Kentsp1, on Apr 13 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grinding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.

You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever been under the gun in an actual competitive round? NBA basketball players all have the same "pre-shot" routine during a free throw even if it's to win the game. Go talk to any sports psychologist they will teach you to have your pre-shot routine match ur cadences. If your a quick, decisive person then your golf swing should match this cadence. Ultimately Snedeker got a little tight because he had never been in that position before. IT HAPPENS!!!....

relax there buddy. My point is his preshot routine does not seem adaptable to different situations.....that being the back nine on Sunday at the Masters.

Please answer honestly, if thats possible. Do you spend the same amout of time over a 6 iron on the first hole of a tourney, as opposed the last hole to win the club championship..????

do NOT come on this site, call us all "girls", and claim that we are unable to answer with honesty simply because we ALL disagree with you. get over yourself.

[bogeyk]

Once he got the information of what he wanted to do he stepped up and hit the shot. He wasn't quick with his decisions just when he got behind the ball and started his routine. If he spent seven seconds over the ball waggling like Sergio at Bethpage would that have been good? It's called a routine. Something you do the same before every shot. If he changed what he was doing it wouldn't be routine. Much of the afternoon they were jumping from golfer to golfer so all you saw was him step up to ball and go. Trevor's concerned expression after each shot didn't exactly exude confidence. It's like watching a football replay in slow motion and saying the QB didn't see a wide open receiver. You forget that seven guys are rushing him and he has just a couple seconds to read the defense and unload the ball. Second guessing is becoming all to common in every aspect of life. Anything is easy if you are not doing it.

[frozen_rope]

The value of a pre shot routine is that it breeds consistency.
The last thing a player wants to do is change his pre shot routine from Thursday to Sunday, the benefit is in keeping it the same.

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

I know he's one of the best in the world, but the rest of the field was really grinding out every shot today. Nobody was grinding harder than Trevor. Snedeker's quick preshot routine seemed hurried and strangely out of place. It may work Thursday thru Saturday, but you would think Sunday at the Masters would require some more preshot attention. Again he's one of the best, it just seem hurried and not thought out.

[Cdn_golfer]

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 08:34 PM, said:

Kentsp1, on Apr 13 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

reality check girls....everyone spends more time over shots at end of tourneys, when the whole thing is on the line. We all do!!! . Every sport...every sportsman...everywhere. I guess the NBA should get rid of timeouts.

Trevor was really grinding, taking 5, 6 and 7 practice swings on the last few holes. Much longer than normal. I guess the Masters Champ doesn't have a clue.

You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever been under the gun in an actual competitive round? NBA basketball players all have the same "pre-shot" routine during a free throw even if it's to win the game. Go talk to any sports psychologist they will teach you to have your pre-shot routine match ur cadences. If your a quick, decisive person then your golf swing should match this cadence. Ultimately Snedeker got a little tight because he had never been in that position before. IT HAPPENS!!!....

relax there buddy. My point is his preshot routine does not seem adaptable to different situations.....that being the back nine on Sunday at the Masters.

Please answer honestly, if thats possible. Do you spend the same amout of time over a 6 iron on the first hole of a tourney, as opposed the last hole to win the club championship..????

HELL YES. I may take a few extra checks for wind, or things around me, but my preshot routine NEVER CHANGES. Its the same if im hitting a 9i into the 7th green 4 down in a match as it would be if I was 196 out on the first playoff hole against Tiger for the green jacket.

YOUR ROUTINE IS NOT MEANT TO ADAPT, if you think so your a silly silly man. A preshot routine is suppost to make you comfortable and keep your swing consistent, to keep consistency you do similar things, duh.

Sry man, you sound like a moron to me, and to judge Brandt for that reason is absolutely moronic. The kid!!! is playing in the final group of HIS FIRST MASTERS TOURNAMENT, he stuck to his game and unfortunately had a bit of a tough time, but overall, im extremely impressed he played as well as he did for the first three rounds, unfortunately hit a couple shots on sunday that didnt turn out, but he placed 3rd in his very first Masters. You and your adapting routine probly cant even close out for 5$.

[Swingtheclub]

Heres the question

Please answer honestly, if thats possible. Do you spend the same amout of time over a 6 iron on the first hole of a tourney, as opposed the last hole to win the club championship..????


Yes yes yes and in everyround I play. I am a grinder by nature. My routine tee to green is fairly quick, once I have selected a club and decided what I want to do it does not take me long


when I get around the greens and on them my preshot is slower but again I do it the same all the time.

I try to play every round with the same importance . I learned this early on in my career .

So the answer is yes and I won the Senior Club Championship at my club last year.

Its the people that go into a tournament and do everything different that tickle me to death then wonder why they can not score.

[kevcarter]

If your pre shot routine is changing, you are choking!

Kevin

[Andariego]

Sry man, you sound like a moron to me, and to judge Brandt for that reason is absolutely moronic.
[/quote]
you got style ..nice job

[BRS216]

bogeyk, on Apr 13 2008, 08:06 PM, said:

Once he got the information of what he wanted to do he stepped up and hit the shot. He wasn't quick with his decisions just when he got behind the ball and started his routine. If he spent seven seconds over the ball waggling like Sergio at Bethpage would that have been good? It's called a routine. Something you do the same before every shot. If he changed what he was doing it wouldn't be routine. Much of the afternoon they were jumping from golfer to golfer so all you saw was him step up to ball and go. Trevor's concerned expression after each shot didn't exactly exude confidence. It's like watching a football replay in slow motion and saying the QB didn't see a wide open receiver. You forget that seven guys are rushing him and he has just a couple seconds to read the defense and unload the ball. Second guessing is becoming all to common in every aspect of life. Anything is easy if you are not doing it.

That look you see in his eyes were the look of intesity and Focus on every shot. They even made the comment on the Golf Channel Saturday night that Trveor had the eyes of a winner. The look of intensity and Focus not concern??? Who played better? Who kept there composure? If I was snedeker i would not feel bad he did keep his routine pretty similar to the rest of the week. It was tough for everyone out there and the guy who hit the ball the best all week won the event.

frozen_rope, on Apr 13 2008, 08:12 PM, said:

The value of a pre shot routine is that it breeds consistency.
The last thing a player wants to do is change his pre shot routine from Thursday to Sunday, the benefit is in keeping it the same.

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

I know he's one of the best in the world, but the rest of the field was really grinding out every shot today. Nobody was grinding harder than Trevor. Snedeker's quick preshot routine seemed hurried and strangely out of place. It may work Thursday thru Saturday, but you would think Sunday at the Masters would require some more preshot attention. Again he's one of the best, it just seem hurried and not thought out.

[beruo]

Andariego, on Apr 13 2008, 07:22 PM, said:

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Sry man, you sound like a moron to me, and to judge Brandt for that reason is absolutely moronic.

you got style ..nice job

Figured this thread was just troll bait, this post confirms it.