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#61 STPBMW

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

View Postvci15, on 31 December 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

Got fitted last year and been slowly acquiring my shafts and irons through GolfWRX or eBay. Through the year I noticed a lot of other folks being fitted to the same brand shaft as mine (Accra) and the fact that whenever I see them on eBay or forums, its because they were originally from Club Champion. Sometime seems fishy with that.

This is what I don't like a CC. They are pushing product that fits their agenda. After 5 minutes I knew the head was going to be an epic, not because of the results but because of the sales pitch and the "top Callaway fitter" banner.



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:15 PM

View PostQwiklap, on 12 January 2018 - 09:37 PM, said:

Well -- fitting got going a little after 2:30.  And it ran to about 6pm.  But I ran out of gas (too many swings -- over 200 fully swings).  I tried to swing driver at the end -- but my SS was down 8 mph and accuracy (in terms of where on the face I was hitting) way off versus my warm-up.

But we worked on irons for a while (looking at shafts and heads) and putter (SAM fitting).  And I came away accomplishing my goals on those two areas.  I know what works better/best for me.  And I learned a lot about my specs.

Jim (my fitter) apologized profusely -- apparently the guy in his morning fitting went way long (wanting to hit all kinds of stuff) - try everything, etc.  So that customer was very inconsiderate of Jim's time -- and caused my fitting to get screwed over. Jim offered to have me back another time (after all the new woods come out) to work on woods, hybrids and wedges.  That was a great gesture.  And made me happy.

When I got home (which is a 30 min drive for me) -- I found on my phone an email from Jim.  He had spoken to Club Champion corporate - and was refunding fitting fee.  And he still wants me to come back.  Now that ... is making it right.

At the end of the day - I learned:

1.  My irons are too short by about 1/2"
2.  My swing weight is way off (at C7) -- this is likely because I installed heavier mid-sized grips.  Somewhere in D2 to D4 ranges is probably ideal for me.
3.  I actually like my clubheads -- but AP1 and Cally Epic are close (but I would never pay the price Epic's cost).
4.  I hit Steelfiber i95 quite well (he had me in stiff -- but I think regular might work better).
5.  I am actually standard lie (or maybe 1* upright).
6.  A face balanced putter would work better for me.  But working on the stroke is more important.
7.  I need to work on my putter address alignment (I suck at aiming).

All in all -- I had a bad experience at Club Champion ... but I would still recommend it because they made it right for me, and certainly know what they are doing.

Mistakes happen all the time and in all walks of life. It looks like a mistake was made, through no fault of your own-and if Jim is truthful-really none of their own. I'm more interested in how an entity responds to adversity than in what creates the adversity in the first place. It looks like Jim specifically and CC as a whole, did everything they could to make this right. That means a lot to me.

PS: I'm sorry for tying Jim up for 6.5 hours, they just have soooo many choices.... :) Kidding of course. Which is why I don't do a fitting. I'd screw someone over somewhere. I'd be the kid in the candy store, "ooh ooh, can I try that one? That one?? That one??" Much like my day to day grind, I'd be the first one in and last one out.

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:59 PM

View PostSTPBMW, on 12 January 2018 - 10:36 PM, said:

View Postvci15, on 31 December 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

Got fitted last year and been slowly acquiring my shafts and irons through GolfWRX or eBay. Through the year I noticed a lot of other folks being fitted to the same brand shaft as mine (Accra) and the fact that whenever I see them on eBay or forums, its because they were originally from Club Champion. Sometime seems fishy with that.

This is what I don't like a CC. They are pushing product that fits their agenda. After 5 minutes I knew the head was going to be an epic, not because of the results but because of the sales pitch and the "top Callaway fitter" banner.

So the results were worse but you were still told it was the best driver for you? When I got fitted, I took 3 swings with the Epic and moved on without batting an eye.
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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:48 PM

I'm thinking of getting a fitting as it's been 4 years since I was fit for my Apex irons and Alpha 815 driver. I have questions about their shaft recommendations. I'm pretty much a novice as I've never heard of Accra, Oban and others. I'm not going to spend a lot on an expensive shaft that they might recommend as I don't have 2k or more for clubs.

Do they give you a printout of your numbers and specs that would allow to compare the high priced shafts with other options? Do they have all the shafts that Callaway offers for the Epic or TM offers on an M1/M2?

I guess what I'm asking would I be able to go on Callaway Preowned and find an Epic driver with a shaft close to what my fitter suggested?

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:54 PM

^Yes. They carry every shaft except UST and Matrix brands.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:26 PM

View Postthevaporz, on 18 January 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

^Yes. They carry every shaft except UST and Matrix brands.

Thanks, booking the full bag.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:39 PM

I'm a fan of CC. That's not to say that some other place might not be better, but I think the guys at the Philly location are great and know what they're doing.

I'd offer the following:

- If you don't want to be sold on something you can't afford, then ask that you not try anything you can't afford.
- I think they waive the fitting fee if you buy clubs through them. So, see if that's economical for you.
- The higher cost of clubs bought through them undoubtedly pays for the fitters, rent, etc. Viewed that way, the prices are understandable.
- If you have no intention of buying anything from them, go ahead and tell the fitter up front.
- Unless your CC is known to do shabby work, there's a benefit to buying through CC and having them build your clubs exactly to spec.
- If you get to the course with your newly spec'd clubs and they're just not right, CC will work to get things sorted out.

I've said it in another CC thread, but the last time I was at CC, I overhead some of the fitting of a local college player looking to improve on his irons. After 20 minutes or so, the fitter said "Man, I'd love to be able to sell you a new set of clubs, but I can't improve on your current set up." I thought that was mighty honest of him.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 08:05 AM

Can anyone recommend a certain fitter at the Syosset NY location?  How was your experience there?  I'm looking to do a woods fitting.....do they carry graphite design shafts?  Don't see them on their website....

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:20 AM

View Postscottleo, on 23 January 2018 - 08:05 AM, said:

Can anyone recommend a certain fitter at the Syosset NY location?  How was your experience there?  I'm looking to do a woods fitting.....do they carry graphite design shafts?  Don't see them on their website....

Hey Iíve been fit at the Syosset locations twice by Anthony minchini, he is really knowledgeable and a great guy. Please tell him Alex Bardani sent you. They also have graphite ad shafts I believe. Really Anthony is great though heís helped my game immensely
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:40 AM

View PostArb8889, on 23 January 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

View Postscottleo, on 23 January 2018 - 08:05 AM, said:

Can anyone recommend a certain fitter at the Syosset NY location?  How was your experience there?  I'm looking to do a woods fitting.....do they carry graphite design shafts?  Don't see them on their website....

Hey I've been fit at the Syosset locations twice by Anthony minchini, he is really knowledgeable and a great guy. Please tell him Alex Bardani sent you. They also have graphite ad shafts I believe. Really Anthony is great though he's helped my game immensely

I got fitted by him last year and he was a nice kid. Reminds me of Ryan Moore a little bit for some odd reason.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 01:49 AM

I had my full bag fitting at CC and it went pretty well. I'm 67, the handicap is currently 12.6, driver ss is 93-96. I had been fitted for irons about 4 years ago and was put in the Apex with XP 95 R300 Regular flex shaft. Seemed I was losing some distance with them so wondered if it was club head speed or something else. I also bought a Cally 815 Alpha around that time and through trial and error dialed that in myself. I've been pretty happy with that but with new stuff hitting the market in those 4 years I thought I'd see if anything would be worth an upgrade. I bought an XR 3w and an XR 3hybrid from CPO a couple years ago on a "buy one get one free deal". Stock shafts and I've been pretty happy with those.

My fitter was great and overall a very good experience, very informative and helpful. I was surprised at hitting what I thought were better player irons. TM 790 etc. The club he recommended was the Rogue Pro. Reviews of that club suggest its for single digit players so I was a bit surprised, though I did hit it well. He also recommended Accra iCWT 75 M3 shafts. Tried different shafts in the current driver and only a couple heads as he didn't think I could improve much to justify the cost. The $175 I spent on the 3w and hybrid was a great investment and won't be changed.

Ok, now looking for some advice. The Rogue 3-AW, shafts and Golf Pride CP2 Wrap grips = $2,000. So not in my budget. However, they could put the Accra shafts and GP grips in my current Apex heads for about $1,000. My Apex are in great shape as I didn't get to play a lot for the first 18 months I had them and I still like them. There was a huge difference in performance with the Accras and other adjustments. Just not sure putting another $1k into them is worth it.

Wondering if there are other options as others have suggested, try to find the shafts online and have somebody else make the switch for me or pick another cheaper shaft that I hit but didn't perform quite as well.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Edited by 6x6, 24 January 2018 - 01:53 AM.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 12:30 PM

Boy those shafts are mucho bucks ($75 per shaft??).  If you were to buy them separately, get new grips and have them assembled (by somebody else), you are probably looking at total outlay of apprx $750.

I would look at getting cheaper shafts - but then again I am frugal. :taunt:
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Posted 24 January 2018 - 02:19 PM

View Postpropman, on 24 January 2018 - 12:30 PM, said:

Boy those shafts are mucho bucks ($75 per shaft??).  If you were to buy them separately, get new grips and have them assembled (by somebody else), you are probably looking at total outlay of apprx $750.

I would look at getting cheaper shafts - but then again I am frugal. :taunt:

Yeah, the Accra is a graphite shaft $95 each.

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 12:13 AM

View PostKMeloney, on 18 January 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

I'm a fan of CC. That's not to say that some other place might not be better, but I think the guys at the Philly location are great and know what they're doing.

I'd offer the following:

- If you don't want to be sold on something you can't afford, then ask that you not try anything you can't afford.
- I think they waive the fitting fee if you buy clubs through them. So, see if that's economical for you.
- The higher cost of clubs bought through them undoubtedly pays for the fitters, rent, etc. Viewed that way, the prices are understandable.
- If you have no intention of buying anything from them, go ahead and tell the fitter up front.
- Unless your CC is known to do shabby work, there's a benefit to buying through CC and having them build your clubs exactly to spec.
- If you get to the course with your newly spec'd clubs and they're just not right, CC will work to get things sorted out.

I've said it in another CC thread, but the last time I was at CC, I overhead some of the fitting of a local college player looking to improve on his irons. After 20 minutes or so, the fitter said "Man, I'd love to be able to sell you a new set of clubs, but I can't improve on your current set up." I thought that was mighty honest of him.

CC does not waive the fitting fee if you purchase through them. However I agree with all of the rest of your points.
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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:12 AM

Uhg, I was late to the party.  Called to book a full bag fitting in Orlando this morning and they said the sale ended last week... Wahh

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