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#61 BNGL

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:55 PM

Seminole is another one, Augusta is just too severe for bent in my opinion.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:11 PM

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

 raynorfan1, on 03 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

 vallygolf, on 03 January 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

But let's not fall into the trap of thinking that because a course is controversial, that makes it a great course.

Can you name a great course with Putt Putt greens?




But lets not fall into the trap of thinking that because a course we have never played has so called putt putt greens panned by some, that it makes it a bad course.

Oakmont.

Fair enough.

Bad example imo.  Oakmonts greens are hard but not ridiculous.  I've seen worse and I'd be surprised if Black's greens resembled Oakmonts at all.
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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:28 PM

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First hole greens ^^

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Par3 17th^^

There are holes where’s there strategy and you got to use the ground game and some imagination but for most part it’s just goofy. The par4 14th should be blown up. The 13th-15th stretch is really really goofy.
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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:08 PM

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

But let's not fall into the trap of thinking that because a course is controversial, that makes it a great course.

This is true.  As I've said a few times before in various places, I think there is value in making something different even if the cost is upsetting some golfers.  There are too many generic courses out there, especially in Florida.

Bad and different > Average and boring

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:45 AM

Love the photos, I get many wont care for it.  Puts a putter in hands where on most courses you are chipping (I may still be chipping:).   Im booked for March.  Cant wait, looks like so much fun, playing the red twice and black twice. Not a fan of the Blue.  As one who remains optimistic about the Black, Ill give it a review when I get back.


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Posted 04 January 2018 - 11:52 AM

One of my closest friends just played there and loved it.  Said it was a ton of fun as long as you can leave the Scorecard in your pocket.  Someone whose opinion I trust more than most.  Hopefully I'll get to play it end of month.

BTW he said a few times people in his group chipped off the greens on some of the larger ones when far away from the hole.  That is definitely not something you see every day.
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Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:58 PM

I'll be back a 3rd time next week. Hate the putting but don't know why I am looking forward to going back.  I chipped on the 14th last time. My caddie told me Gil Hanse wants a re-do on 14th green.

It's definitely growing on me.

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:07 PM

 krtgolfing, on 30 December 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

 youraway2, on 29 December 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

 krtgolfing, on 29 December 2017 - 10:39 AM, said:

I am hoping to get down in the summertime to play all 3 courses. All about those cheap rates!
July, August?  Not trees, no shade, 100% humidity, no wind movement; have fun.  Pick Spring or early summer.

I’m used to the heat and humidity. So nothing to worry about.
. What are the summer fates?  Thanks.

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:43 PM

For those that have experience, how does this compare to Old MacDonald? From the comments, it sounds very similar with exception to the H green.

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:45 PM

 irvtrain, on 04 January 2018 - 07:43 PM, said:

For those that have experience, how does this compare to Old MacDonald? From the comments, it sounds very similar with exception to the H green.

Previously posted in this thread by mwmgolfx:

"I'll play the Red and Blue again in a minute.  But never the Black.  The Red and Blue are eminently playable great designs with very strong green complexes.  The Black is playable (almost super easy) until you get to those putt-putt designed greens.  Old MacDonald at Bandon Dunes has huge greens but they are playable and somewhat reasonable.  Black's are just silly and have extremely limited options for pin placements."

Edited by DrSchteeve, 04 January 2018 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:47 PM

Played the black yesterday.    Regarding the greens they were fast, smooth and overall in immaculate shape.   Putting was easy if you ended up with a reasonable breaking putt.   However, I have to agree that about 1/4 of the greens were dumb.   The ones that really stood out were 9, 1 and 14.  9 is a bowl and while it looks cool it is pointless.  I had a 13 foot putt and had to hit it 12 feet left with enough speed to pass the hole by 20 feet to rise a mound in a quarter circle back down to try and get it within 10 feet.    Hole 14 was easy for me out of luck.  Wind was strong out of the back and drove the green to within 4 feet and made eagle.  (Side note, got three hole in ones but that was my first eagle on a par 4).   However, both playing partners four putted because it appeared they buried several elephants in shallow graves on the green.   Hole one is a short par 5 but the green is huge with several large mounts.  Plus you should never have to putt over a sprinkler head if your on the green.

Pace of play was good, never had to wait on the group ahead.   Overall condition was great, but there were several holes where the tee shot was a little blind or confusing on where you would want to hit it.   This is easily fixed with course knowledge.  

I did have a two issues with the resort itself.

One was with the young lady at the turn.  We had a 15 minute discussion on simple math.  Using her calculator, she added up a Pepsi $3, a bag of peanuts $3 and a snickers bar $3 for a total of $18.   I told her that her math was off and she doubled and then tripled checked her math on her calculator.  Each time the total was $18.   It is hard to believe that she couldnít do simple math or use a calculator correctly.   Kind of makes me think she was trying to rip me off.

The other issue I had was regarding the caddies.  I did not use one but they tried to force one on me a few times.  On the other hand, all of he rangers on the course were very polite and went out of their way to help players enjoy their round.  

If my buddies wanted to play it, I would play it again.  However, Iíd pick blue every time.   I would rather play Grand Cypress new over the black.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 07:58 AM

For anyone who has played the Black course. Do you think they will eventually have to do something about the green complexes?

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 10:21 AM

Iím going to try to play it in two weeks when Iím in Florida. It will be interesting to see how valid the complaints are.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 07:00 PM

Just booked all three courses. Two of the rounds as a single. Guy booking the reservation was straight forward about caddy fees.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:53 PM

 klebs01, on 11 January 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Just booked all three courses. Two of the rounds as a single. Guy booking the reservation was straight forward about caddy fees.

Does the $100 "fee" go directly to the caddie, or is it 100 + another 100 (or whatever you decide to tip)?


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:01 AM

He said $90 plus gratuity all directly to the caddy after the round. Iím working off that. Iíll post up again if that not accurate.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:46 AM

 klebs01, on 12 January 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

He said $90 plus gratuity all directly to the caddy after the round. I'm working off that. I'll post up again if that not accurate.

Thank you.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:40 AM

Just got back from three days at Streamsong. Played Blue, Red, and Black. Our group walked 85 holes. Prior to going the group was a little worried about the Black course round.  We fortunately play the eleven hole loop at the Black after our first 18on the Blue. Our group was made up of 5 to scratch.  The overall consensus was the Red was probably the best with the Black being right there with it. Donít let any reviews worry you. All three courses were in great condition with probably the best quality green surfaces.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:51 AM

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

 raynorfan1, on 03 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

 vallygolf, on 03 January 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

 DrSchteeve, on 03 January 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

But let's not fall into the trap of thinking that because a course is controversial, that makes it a great course.

Can you name a great course with Putt Putt greens?




But lets not fall into the trap of thinking that because a course we have never played has so called putt putt greens panned by some, that it makes it a bad course.

Oakmont.

Fair enough.

I have played Oakmont and while the greens are very difficult they are not putt putt.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:02 AM

Other recommendation...yardage book and play black or silver tee


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