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#1 dmumf

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:42 AM

About a year ago, I discovered this forum, and have greatly enjoyed the discussion about new acquisitions and the various unusual club finds that people have made.  Until now, I haven't had much to contribute.  However, I recently stumbled onto an unusual set of late 70's Wilson Staff Tour Blades, and wonder if I could enlist your collective wisdom to learn more about them.  

The clubs in question appear to have been made from 78-80 forgings, and have the traditional Staff Tour Blade stampings.  In addition, they are stamped with the name  "Walker Inman, Jr." as well as what I believe to be a custom grind code  (G-353).

A quick google search suggests that Mr. Inman competed in a number of PGA tour events in the 50's and 60's, and was a long-time club pro at Scioto CC.  I am curious to find out if these irons  were part of a limited run of irons (perhaps for club members?), or a set that may have been made specifically for Mr. Inman.  Any insight that the group might have would be greatly appreciated.  

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#2 rex235

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 03:27 AM

dmumf-


"I am curious to find out if these irons  were part of a limited run of irons (perhaps for club members?), or a set that may have been made specifically for Mr. Inman. "


They are most likely the latter, and their custom grind designation code G-353, was specific to Walker Inman Jr. Note this grind has a higher and more pronounced square toe.  Other photos would help.

Walker Inman Jr's signature stamp in the back pad is the clincher.  Viewed similar "signature" stamped irons for Johnny Miller, Sam and JC  Snead in the '70s when they were Wilson staffers.

Sadly Wilson "made the corporate decision" to close access to their custom department in 2014, which supposedly consisted of cataloging their personal custom grinds for nearly all the PGA and LPGA Tour Staff Professionals, and Club Professionals in Wilsons history- Men and Women.

These Wilson custom grinds were inventoried in a series of 3 ring binders, and supposedly were in the hands of longtime Wilson Golf clubmaker and master grinder Robert Mendralla Sr, who left this world last year.  

The existence of the 3 ring binders was confirmed in an email received from a former Wilson staff employee now retired and living in AZ.  They also provided names of other custom grinders for Wilson.

It has been speculated that his son, Robert Mendralla Jr., is now in possession of these binders.

Nonetheless, Great set!

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 04:25 AM

I've got another one here that I stumbled upon a couple of months back. This was being sold as a commemorative set. I thought that it looked more like the work of the custom dept.

What the pic doesn't show are the plain black ferrules black sole plugs  & Brunswick precision fcm 6.0's ( which is what I believe Betsy played).
I did not purchase these as they were a little rich for my taste, and the last thing this Mac' boy needs is the makings of a Wilson addiction!

I am Curious to hear what you all think.

J

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Edited by fluffy265, 30 December 2017 - 08:03 AM.

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 05:25 AM

Were they on TradeMe?

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 05:27 AM

 SteveNZ, on 24 December 2017 - 05:25 AM, said:

Were they on TradeMe?

Yep, I think it was about 4 or 5 months ago.

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:19 AM

Turnberry 86. Four US players in a group. Floyd, Kite, Pate and A N other....four sets of Staff irons. All different heads. Kite's were squared off, Floyd's more rounded and a deeper blade. Stunning clubs.

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 08:40 AM

Great post. Original poster, I think those were from 1980-81, nice looking custom set...  Betsy King was a major winner on the LPGA tour. I played that same 1985 model in high school and loved them. A year ago I acquired a 1 thru PW set made for Bernhard Langer long time Wilson Staffer.

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 02:36 PM

Freddie-

Remember to get BL to sign that 1 iron...

Fluffy-

It is most likely the work of the Custom Dept, with "BETSY KING" stamping and the N-320 custom iron code.

Also- Betsy King was a National Champion along with Beth Daniel at Furman, winning the  AIAW Team title by 1 shot over Tulsa.   Tulsa's Nancy Lopez won the Individual crown, besting champion and future LPGA winner Barbara Barrow in a four hole playoff.

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Posted 25 December 2017 - 01:03 AM

Thanks to all for your responses.  

Rex235 in particular, thank you for the detailed information about the custom shop, and what may have become of their records.  Per your interest in additional photos, I have added a few to this post.  As you can see from the photos, the top line is very thin.  Additionally, the leading edge seems to be a good bit more beveled than a standard set.  

Nice to see the other examples of Wilson's custom work through the years.  FreddieC, that Langer set is awfully nice looking.  I am curious to hear how you managed to find them.

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Posted 25 December 2017 - 02:02 AM

Dmumf-

Thanks for the added photos-  Love the squared toe, and thin top line of your set.

Wilson made a number of custom golf clubs, both the persimmon woods and forged blade irons.    Nothing like Freddie getting a custom ground iron set of a Masters Champion.  

Someone out there has a treasure trove of Wilson stuff.

No, it is not me. Just have a few LH irons...


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

Here are a few Custom sets I have, 2 have X100 shafts other Stiff W/S
I like the button back with no button except for PW which is a fill PW!!

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 11:48 AM

The buttonless “buttonbacks” have gorgeous lines. I’ve got set K441 as a back up. Also gaming a 1958 SW custom reissue N551. Would really be cool if the build number catalog binders ever came to light.

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 02:50 AM

Persimmon-

+1



Yes, this is a LH 1962 Wilson Sam Snead Signature 1 iron...

While it is sufficient at this point to know these 3 ring binders existed at Wilson, others might want to know more.

Good Luck.

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 05:07 AM

 fluffy265, on 24 December 2017 - 04:25 AM, said:

I've got another one here that I stumbled upon a couple of months back. This was being sold as a commemorative set. I thought that it looked more like the work of the custom dept.

What the pic doesn't show are the plain black ferrules black sole plugs  & Brunswick precision fcm 6.0's ( which is what I believe Betsy played).
I did not purchase these as they were a little rich for my taste, and the last thing this Mac' boy needs is the makings of a Wilson addiction!

I am Curious to here what you all think.

J

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 12:31 PM

Hogan guy here getting a serious Mac addiction.


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Posted 30 December 2017 - 01:01 PM

 BIG STU, on 30 December 2017 - 05:07 AM, said:

 fluffy265, on 24 December 2017 - 04:25 AM, said:

I've got another one here that I stumbled upon a couple of months back. This was being sold as a commemorative set. I thought that it looked more like the work of the custom dept.

What the pic doesn't show are the plain black ferrules black sole plugs  & Brunswick precision fcm 6.0's ( which is what I believe Betsy played).
I did not purchase these as they were a little rich for my taste, and the last thing this Mac' boy needs is the makings of a Wilson addiction!

I am Curious to here what you all think.

J

8972C0DD-7B8A-4BFF-B653-A32ED006D20A.jpeg
I know about the thing of "a Mac Man getting a Wilson addiction"   I am a Mac man starting to get a Hogan addiction. The culprits on here will remain nameless even one of them lives near Chicago :taunt:

Mind you Stu, I do need to  thank you for getting me to put that Fluid Feel Tour blade SW in my bag, That has been working out really Nice.

Cheers!

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 01:30 PM

The K441s looks amazing ! Like the shape ..

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 05:36 PM

Freddie-

Perhaps the '71 Wilson Staff Custom ground K441 PW and SW  never left the players bag....

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 06:34 PM

 fluffy265, on 30 December 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

 BIG STU, on 30 December 2017 - 05:07 AM, said:

 fluffy265, on 24 December 2017 - 04:25 AM, said:

I've got another one here that I stumbled upon a couple of months back. This was being sold as a commemorative set. I thought that it looked more like the work of the custom dept.

What the pic doesn't show are the plain black ferrules black sole plugs  & Brunswick precision fcm 6.0's ( which is what I believe Betsy played).
I did not purchase these as they were a little rich for my taste, and the last thing this Mac' boy needs is the makings of a Wilson addiction!

I am Curious to here what you all think.

J

8972C0DD-7B8A-4BFF-B653-A32ED006D20A.jpeg
I know about the thing of "a Mac Man getting a Wilson addiction"   I am a Mac man starting to get a Hogan addiction. The culprits on here will remain nameless even one of them lives near Chicago :taunt:

Mind you Stu, I do need to  thank you for getting me to put that Fluid Feel Tour blade SW in my bag, That has been working out really Nice.

Cheers!

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 11:25 PM

Here are a couple Wilson Staff clubs I treasure - Sam Snead and Ray Floyd wedges.

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Have a few more, various DynaPower SW and even '59  Double and Triple-Duty wedges, PGA Tour player George Burns DynaPower irons and SW, and the best DynaPower SW I've ever hit, made for Andy Bean. Will locate, photo, and post.

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P S - Trying to find Andy Bean's DynaPower but can't put my hands on it - haven't looked in the right bag yet.

Edited by Texsport, 31 December 2017 - 09:54 PM.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 02:07 AM

Tex-

L-438..

Now we know what one of Sam Snead's custom iron grind numbers was..

Thank you.

Wait... Andy Beans Wilson Staff Dynapower SW is the best feeling one?   What  model year?

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:41 AM

I should say, best playing DynaPower.

It's heavy and has a very stiff shaft.

I'll post a pic.

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Edited by Texsport, 31 December 2017 - 10:49 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 10:59 AM

Texsport , have you hit the Snead PW? Same model as my Langer. Awesome !

Edited by freddiec, 31 December 2017 - 11:24 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 11:29 AM

 freddiec, on 31 December 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

Texsport , have you hit the Snead PW? Same model as my Langer. Awesome !

freddiec - never hit it because when I bought it from Sam's son, it still had some dirt in the grooves - figured I'd just leave it like that.

A popular model among all time greats - something special!

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 01:33 PM

Here are comparison pics (Bernhard Langer Staffs) to Sam Snead's 1985 Staff PW.  According to Larry Bobka, Wilson clubmaker at the time Bernhard liked "full offset" on his irons, which made it pretty tough to accomplish.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 04:11 PM

All the custom Bernard Langer, MacGregor wedges I got from Dave Wood have distinct offset also.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 04:58 PM

Freddie/Tex-

Absolutely great photos.

There are a few LH W/S custom iron sets among the trove-  



This one is of the '59 Custom Dynapower iron set,which we took along with us in our 2012 southern swing, when we interviewed Don White and Patrick Boyd, when they were at Scratch Golf-



Don liked both the design of the clubs, as well as the grind....

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:24 PM

This is so cool.  You guys never cease to amaze me.  The Wilson custom shop sure was busy over the years.  Just from casual observation it seems there's more custom ground Staff irons around than all the other makers combined.  Maybe it just appears that way due to to obvious number stampings.  Great stuff fellows!

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:37 PM

Back when Wilson and MacGregor were the clear leaders in the market, they furnished custom clubs to leading club pros as well as Tour pros. In fact, many of the club pros played Tour events regularly - before the advent of the "all exempt" Tour and big T V and sponsor money were involved.

My original DynaPower SW and PW were custom clubs for club pros. The PW looks like a SW bent to PW loft with extra hosel offset.

Ill try to find that club - I played it for years.

Texsport

Edited by Texsport, 01 January 2018 - 09:39 PM.

Mizuno GT180 10.5*/Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 5 X
Tour Edge Exotics CB F2 PRO 15.5* Limited/Speeder 757 EVO 7.1X (Gene Sauers club)
Titleist 915 18*/Fubuki K 80X
Titleist 913 Hybrid 21*/Tour Blue 105X (Matt Jones' club) (OR) TM Burner 4-iron/Aldila RIP 115 Tour S
Wilson Staff V4 5 and 6/Aerotech Fibersteel 110 S
MacGregor PRO M 7-PM/Aldila RIP 115 Tour S
Edel 50*/KBS 610 S
Scratch JMO Grind Don White 56*/DG X-100
Cobra Trusty Rusty Tour  64*/DG S-200
The Cure CX2 putter

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:21 PM

Texsport, I’m curious if you have a mini-museum at home with all the great clubs you have in that collection?  My wife omplains with just the “non-special” sticks I’ve collected 😄


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