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Posted 30 November 2017 - 02:06 PM

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My game is control

Been using DGSLs and now DG105
Went through an extensive shaft fitting when I bought my previous XR Pros 2 years ago.
yes I gave up some launch for the very tight dispersion of the DGSL S.

My bud went into recoils last year and I have to say they were sweet!

Was thinking of putting a Recoil 780s into my new P790 5 Iron or possibly a similar light steel high launch shaft in it... or into ALL OF THEM.

My concerns are two fold
- Adjusting to lighter shafts. Do they throw off tempo or accuracy?

- Also what happens w the wedges and their heavier shafts when I play?
Will tempo be thrown off even more?

Look forward to those with similar experiences

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Edited by Forged5, 30 November 2017 - 02:08 PM.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 02:19 PM

I can't speak to the 780's, but I have tried the 95's and the 110's in the last season.  I transitioned over from PX 5.5's to the 95's in the Mizuno JPX 900 HM's and put 110's in my wedges.  I never felt comfortable with the 95's because of the my faster tempo and ended up benching the HM's pretty quickly for the Apex CF16's in my bag now.  With my rapid tempo, my timing was off and my accuracy went down the tubes with the 95's.  I feel very comfortable with the 110's and feel like I can go after it without fear of spraying the ball.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 02:20 PM

Recoils are a great shaft. Light steel, Nippon 950s are my fav.! KBS tour 90 and XP95s are other great choices.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:20 PM

I've been using graphite irons for a long time (1999) and I really don't like playing with steel in the irons (although I have steel in my wedges).  I have no problem with the steel in the wedges as I view them as specialized clubs like my driver which is considerably different from my iron flex.  When I have switched to different graphite shafts, I initially made a mistake of trying to keep to the same swing weight.  I quickly learned that I just needed to adjust my SW that I wanted to match the new shaft.  Some where lighter in SW and some were heavier.  Took a little experimentation to find the SW that matched my tempo with the new shafts.

I think you will find the same in swapping from steel to Recoils.  That being said, I think I would be slightly more accurate with my irons if I was playing steel shafts, but I have nothing concrete to base that on.  I prefer the R flex in my shafts and the one thing I find compared to some of the stiffer shafts I've used, is a little too much droop at impact than I would like.  It's a trade-off though.  My next set of shafts will be Recoils again, but something a little more tip stiff in the same weight.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:26 PM

Get Recoil 95's instead.  They are ascending weight by a small amount so the wedges have a little mass, unlike descending weight shafts.  They feel great and are taper tip.  Recoil 95's swingweight beautifully too.  I've set up my set for an increasing swingweight into the shorter clubs.  That gives them a little more feeling of heft too which is nice for the wedges and such.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 09:45 AM

My recommendation is either to spend some time with a club that has the shaft you're looking to move into or at least one that is a similar weight. You can do this at a big-box golf store or, even better, by spending a few bucks on a bargain used club with that shaft. I did the opposite of you, switching directly from 90 gram KBS shafts to 130 gram S300s, after picking up a Mizuno 6-iron shafted in S300 for $6 at Edwin Watts. I had absolutely no tempo issues making that big of a jump, and accuracy as better as the shaft suits my ball flight better.
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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:39 AM

Moving from steel to graphite is a serious change for a low capper. The weight difference can be staggering. That being said, I made the switch in 2012 from DGS300 to Steel fiber i110CW. I found that once I had the SW & balance correct for my swing, they worked great. I would suggest you purchase a 5i or 6i of you gamers and shaft it up for a trial. Make sure to play with the weight and balance to see what works best. You can start with the same SW as your gamers, but don't be afraid to stray from it in either direction. Also, you can add lead tape at 14" from the butt to change total weight without changing SW. Once you find what works best, have the whole set re-shafted. Lot's of good graphite iron shafts out there, so check them all out.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 05:16 PM

Thanks all for the great input!

Again Iíve been in DGSL (110 gms I believe) for a few years now.
The Recoil 870 is 86 grams in the f4.

I did try the 870 in a sim
Was very impressed

My concern is just reshafting one 5 iron for now (canít afford to reshaft the bag)
and  if that will throw my tempo off mixed w the other irons.

Iíll ask about SW and possible adjustments :)

I have tried the XP 95. should be higher launch but it wasnít (as far we could tell on the day)

Edited by Forged5, 01 December 2017 - 05:19 PM.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 05:23 PM

I am a 62 year old 7 HI. I really like the Recoils. I have been playing them almost a year now. Plenty of launch without ballooning, very nice feel (not whippy or boardy), and accurate.

My irons and wedges are +2-inches, so the Recoils don't feel light to me. I have the same shafts in both the irons and wedges. They kind of remind me of the Nippon NS Pro 950's, and are also easier on the joints. :-)
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 08:46 AM

Recommend bumping up the swingweight a point or two if you go to lighter shafts or you may lose the feel of the clubhead in the swing.  I tend to prefer D2 but when I get more than a few grams below my preferred shaft weight, D4 seems to feel better to me.  Of course YMMV...

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 09:34 AM

if you're swinging 110g shafts now, why not try the Recoils in 110?

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 11:27 AM

View PostGolf64, on 30 November 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

Recoils are a great shaft. Light steel, Nippon 950s are my fav.! KBS tour 90 and XP95s are other great choices.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 11:28 AM

View PostAviador Naval, on 02 December 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

Recommend bumping up the swingweight a point or two if you go to lighter shafts or you may lose the feel of the clubhead in the swing.  I tend to prefer D2 but when I get more than a few grams below my preferred shaft weight, D4 seems to feel better to me.  Of course YMMV...

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 11:46 AM

Spend the extra few bucks and get the 95 prototypes.

Torque is 2.4

Iím not sure youíll like the 3.5+ torque on the 780ís. Not going to be as accurate.

I had the 125 prototypes for about 4 months.  Wonderful feeling shaft but I spun them far too much. I really wanted them to stay in the  bag but they were worthless for me in any kind of wind. I still play the 125 protos  in my wedges. Great wedge shaft but I do have to watch the spin in them. Just cant go at it 100%.


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Posted 02 December 2017 - 01:06 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 02 December 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

Spend the extra few bucks and get the 95 prototypes.

Torque is 2.4

Iím not sure youíll like the 3.5+ torque on the 780ís. Not going to be as accurate.

I had the 125 prototypes for about 4 months.  Wonderful feeling shaft but I spun them far too much. I really wanted them to stay in the  bag but they were worthless for me in any kind of wind. I still play the 125 protos  in my wedges. Great wedge shaft but I do have to watch the spin in them. Just cant go at it 100%.


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http://www.ustmamiya...prototype-iron/

The Recoil 870 is a different shaft than the 780.

It is a tweener. Available from TSPX dealers only. Tip is more stable ,torque
Is lower ( 2.8 for the 880 / 3.0 for 870 / 3.2 for 860 ) price is also between
the Proto and non-proto.  The Parallel tip 880 is great hybrid shaft.

Edit : OP mentions both in his posts. 780 in first post . 870 in a later post.

Edited by KRW59, 02 December 2017 - 01:14 PM.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 01:15 PM

Recoils are fine and so are the SteelFibers... but after trying both I'm back to lightweight steel... too much added costs vs benefit for me and truthfully I seem to be able to maintain better tempo with steel for some reason.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 02:56 PM

View PostGehly, on 02 December 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

if you're swinging 110g shafts now, why not try the Recoils in 110?

Was under the impression the lighter shaft will help w club head speed and launch
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 02:58 PM

View PostKRW59, on 02 December 2017 - 01:06 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 02 December 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

Spend the extra few bucks and get the 95 prototypes.

Torque is 2.4

I’m not sure you’ll like the 3.5+ torque on the 780’s. Not going to be as accurate.

I had the 125 prototypes for about 4 months.  Wonderful feeling shaft but I spun them far too much. I really wanted them to stay in the  bag but they were worthless for me in any kind of wind. I still play the 125 protos  in my wedges. Great wedge shaft but I do have to watch the spin in them. Just cant go at it 100%.


http://www.ustmamiya...il-780-es-iron/

http://www.ustmamiya...prototype-iron/

The Recoil 870 is a different shaft than the 780.

It is a tweener. Available from TSPX dealers only. Tip is more stable ,torque
Is lower ( 2.8 for the 880 / 3.0 for 870 / 3.2 for 860 ) price is also between
the Proto and non-proto.  The Parallel tip 880 is great hybrid shaft.

Edit : OP mentions both in his posts. 780 in first post . 870 in a later post.

Yes the 780 F4
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 03:00 PM

View PostDpavs, on 02 December 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

Recoils are fine and so are the SteelFibers... but after trying both I'm back to lightweight steel... too much added costs vs benefit for me and truthfully I seem to be able to maintain better tempo with steel for some reason.

Which shafts did you go to.

Again I need launch
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 03:30 PM

View PostForged5, on 02 December 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

View PostGehly, on 02 December 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

if you're swinging 110g shafts now, why not try the Recoils in 110?

Was under the impression the lighter shaft will help w club head speed and launch

The Recoil 780 is the heaviest of the higher / mid-high launch shafts in the
series. One issue that you might consider is the swing weight when building
with the parallel tipped 780 . It will be 2 to 3 points lighter than the taper
tip Recoils. Which is good for over length builds of .5" or more, but can be an
issue for some. Like a lot of others, I prefer a slightly heavier swing
weight,to retain feel when going to a club with a lower static weight.



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Posted 02 December 2017 - 07:31 PM

Went to Recoil protos from Nippon 950-GH.  Worst mistake Iíve made in a while. Graphite shafts in irons suck. Could not swing at it without shot going left.  Iím a 1 HC.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 08:27 PM

View Postdoglover72, on 02 December 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

Went to Recoil protos from Nippon 950-GH.  Worst mistake I’ve made in a while. Graphite shafts in irons suck. Could not swing at it without shot going left.  I’m a 1 HC.

To make a blanket statement like " graphite shafts in irons suck " shows
complete ignorance. Obviously the Recoil Protos were not a good fit .
Shaft weight and profile are far more important than what material they
are made of.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 09:19 PM

View PostForged5, on 02 December 2017 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostAviador Naval, on 02 December 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

Recommend bumping up the swingweight a point or two if you go to lighter shafts or you may lose the feel of the clubhead in the swing.  I tend to prefer D2 but when I get more than a few grams below my preferred shaft weight, D4 seems to feel better to me.  Of course YMMV...

Makes sense. :)
Will effect launch or swing speed? Remember why I'm doing this in the first place

I went to a set of RSi TPs with steelfiber 95s and I had to add lead tape to get the feel your talking about. Wasn't very scientific, measured 2" strips and added the same to each iron. Have been playing them this way all season. Never measured what they were before or after but they feel good.

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 11:45 AM

Was recommended by someone to install a recoil 95 in the next iron or irons until I get the launch I need in the stronger irons. This way it's progressive weights.
Makes sense to me... but isn't the Recoil 95 a different shaft altogether from the 780?

Edited by Forged5, 03 December 2017 - 11:45 AM.

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 12:16 PM

View PostForged5, on 03 December 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Was recommended by someone to install a recoil 95 in the next iron or irons until I get the launch I need in the stronger irons. This way it's progressive weights.
Makes sense to me... but isn't the Recoil 95 a different shaft altogether from the 780?

Yes, the Recoil 95 has a stiffer tip than the 780 , I would consider it more
in the mid to mid / low launch profile.

You were on the right track with the 780 paired with the TM P790 heads.
By your self described " low spin , needing higher launch " swing. The
relatively deep cog high launch / low spin TM P790 would match well with
the softer tipped , spinnier Recoil 780.

The key will by getting club balance (swing weight ) correct for your swing.
For most about 2 points higher is a good starting point when going to a shaft
that is 10 to 15 grams lighter than what you have been playing

Edit : the Recoil 95 would be a good shaft for the gap and middle
wedges. And the Recoil 110 in your most lofted wedge , would be my
choice to get an ascending weight slope in the shorter length clubs

Edited by KRW59, 03 December 2017 - 12:29 PM.

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I have added about 10 grams of weight to all the fwy / hybrid
shafts , using Sensicore inserts wrapped with lead tape.

Cobra Forged Tec Black / 28* 6 iron thru 49.5* GW / 4.5* gapping
Recoil 780 Es Smac wrap F3 / GW shaft internally weighted to 95 grams

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:31 AM

guys -- i got fit last night and got some absolutely ridiculous and consistent numbers from the 110 F5 shafts, hardstepped once in the irons.

has anyone else had experience with these - longer review?

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:58 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 14 December 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

guys -- i got fit last night and got some absolutely ridiculous and consistent numbers from the 110 F5 shafts, hardstepped once in the irons.

has anyone else had experience with these - longer review?

If you’re a higher spin and/or steep player you might not like real world results.

I had the 125 prototypes in F5 soft stepped one time in my hogans this summer for about 4 months. Amazingly good feeling shafts and a powerful feeling kick. Probably the best feeling graphite I’ve ever hit, and I’ve played about 8 different brands and weights.

The only problem was I spun them WAY too much. In calm conditions with firm greens they were fine, but into a stiff breeze they fell out of the sky like ducks getting hit by a 12 gauge. On soft greens they’d suck back too much.

I desperately wanted them to work because I’m starting to get arthritis in my hands and they dampened shock so well. I finally gave in and took them out but left them in all my Wedges to help with my hands. I just have to be careful to avoid going after them too hard or I’ll spin them off the green.

My 120x Tour V’s with sensicores feel like garbage in comparison, but the spin is radically lower and they perform 10 times better in any kind of wind.

Hopefully you’ll love them, but I just thought I’d throw out that personal experience.
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:01 AM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 14 December 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 14 December 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

guys -- i got fit last night and got some absolutely ridiculous and consistent numbers from the 110 F5 shafts, hardstepped once in the irons.

has anyone else had experience with these - longer review?

If you’re a higher spin and/or steep player you might not like real world results.

I had the 125 prototypes in F5 soft stepped one time in my hogans this summer for about 4 months. Amazingly good feeling shafts and a powerful feeling kick. Probably the best feeling graphite I’ve ever hit, and I’ve played about 8 different brands and weights.

The only problem was I spun them WAY too much. In calm conditions with firm greens they were fine, but into a stiff breeze they fell out of the sky like ducks getting hit by a 12 gauge. On soft greens they’d suck back too much.

I desperately wanted them to work because I’m starting to get arthritis in my hands and they dampened shock so well. I finally gave in and took them out but left them in all my Wedges to help with my hands. I just have to be careful to avoid going after them too hard or I’ll spin them off the green.

My 120x Tour V’s with sensicores feel like garbage in comparison, but the spin is radically lower and they perform 10 times better in any kind of wind.

Hopefully you’ll love them, but I just thought I’d throw out that personal experience.
i generate a decent amount of shaft lean and lag -- so my spin isn't typically high. i generate low launch and 'medium' (?) spin. i was getting just below optimal spin numbers with the shaft, but ideal launch and apex (for the swing speed and ball speed).

i generate predominantly back spin...most sidespin i got on these was 200-300rpms. generally i was sub 200rpm sidespin unless i really wanted to work a ball, and then i got up to the 1,000rpms or so.

Edited by gioguy21, 14 December 2017 - 10:02 AM.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:17 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 14 December 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 14 December 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 14 December 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

guys -- i got fit last night and got some absolutely ridiculous and consistent numbers from the 110 F5 shafts, hardstepped once in the irons.

has anyone else had experience with these - longer review?

If you’re a higher spin and/or steep player you might not like real world results.

I had the 125 prototypes in F5 soft stepped one time in my hogans this summer for about 4 months. Amazingly good feeling shafts and a powerful feeling kick. Probably the best feeling graphite I’ve ever hit, and I’ve played about 8 different brands and weights.

The only problem was I spun them WAY too much. In calm conditions with firm greens they were fine, but into a stiff breeze they fell out of the sky like ducks getting hit by a 12 gauge. On soft greens they’d suck back too much.

I desperately wanted them to work because I’m starting to get arthritis in my hands and they dampened shock so well. I finally gave in and took them out but left them in all my Wedges to help with my hands. I just have to be careful to avoid going after them too hard or I’ll spin them off the green.

My 120x Tour V’s with sensicores feel like garbage in comparison, but the spin is radically lower and they perform 10 times better in any kind of wind.

Hopefully you’ll love them, but I just thought I’d throw out that personal experience.
i generate a decent amount of shaft lean and lag -- so my spin isn't typically high. i generate low launch and 'medium' (?) spin. i was getting just below optimal spin numbers with the shaft, but ideal launch and apex (for the swing speed and ball speed).

i generate predominantly back spin...most sidespin i got on these was 200-300rpms. generally i was sub 200rpm sidespin unless i really wanted to work a ball, and then i got up to the 1,000rpms or so.

Not talking about sidespin at all.  Backspin was the problem for me. That’s what causes “ballooning” and poor results in head on or quartering wind.

I hope they work for you.  I see in your signature that you play modus 105x.  If those work for you I imagine you would like the recoils.  I tried the 105x  as well last year for 2 range sessions.  Too spinny for me as well.  Hit them to the moon.  Felt very nice but absolutely didn’t work.

Backspin has always been my enemy. I take 6 inch beaver pelts with all my short irons and wedges. Unfortunately there are very few shafts i get  along with very well.
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:21 AM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 14 December 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 14 December 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 14 December 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 14 December 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

guys -- i got fit last night and got some absolutely ridiculous and consistent numbers from the 110 F5 shafts, hardstepped once in the irons.

has anyone else had experience with these - longer review?

If you’re a higher spin and/or steep player you might not like real world results.

I had the 125 prototypes in F5 soft stepped one time in my hogans this summer for about 4 months. Amazingly good feeling shafts and a powerful feeling kick. Probably the best feeling graphite I’ve ever hit, and I’ve played about 8 different brands and weights.

The only problem was I spun them WAY too much. In calm conditions with firm greens they were fine, but into a stiff breeze they fell out of the sky like ducks getting hit by a 12 gauge. On soft greens they’d suck back too much.

I desperately wanted them to work because I’m starting to get arthritis in my hands and they dampened shock so well. I finally gave in and took them out but left them in all my Wedges to help with my hands. I just have to be careful to avoid going after them too hard or I’ll spin them off the green.

My 120x Tour V’s with sensicores feel like garbage in comparison, but the spin is radically lower and they perform 10 times better in any kind of wind.

Hopefully you’ll love them, but I just thought I’d throw out that personal experience.
i generate a decent amount of shaft lean and lag -- so my spin isn't typically high. i generate low launch and 'medium' (?) spin. i was getting just below optimal spin numbers with the shaft, but ideal launch and apex (for the swing speed and ball speed).

i generate predominantly back spin...most sidespin i got on these was 200-300rpms. generally i was sub 200rpm sidespin unless i really wanted to work a ball, and then i got up to the 1,000rpms or so.

Not talking about sidespin at all.  Backspin was the problem for me. That’s what causes “ballooning” and poor results in head on or quartering wind.

I hope they work for you.  I see in your signature that you play modus 105x.  If those work for you I imagine you would like the recoils.  I tried the 105x  as well last year for 2 range sessions.  Too spinny for me as well.  Hit them to the moon.  Felt very nice but absolutely didn’t work.

Backspin has always been my enemy. I take 6 inch beaver pelts with all my short irons and wedges. Unfortunately there are very few shafts i get  along with very well.
the issue is that i do NOT hit the modus well lol thus the re-fitting.

i'm not a huge digger of the golf ball - i'd say between stricker and mcdowell. lol

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