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#1 Londoner

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 11:45 AM

Today ive been using nike rbz white, in yellow finish.

How do they make these?  My guess is they make white ones and then "refurbish" them in yellow.

To me the dimples seem shallower, as they would if oversprayed and re varnished. Also my red sharpie marking can pretty well be rubbed off at any time, unlike on a "normal" ball. With driver the ball seems 8-10 yards longer! Is this due to shallower dimples and increased weight?

If my summation is correct.
Are balls tested for conformity , incl weight, in each colour? Or are they just type tested in white and the manufacturer allowed colour modifications after?
Am I on to something here?

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 11:49 AM

They spray them with yellow paint instead of white paint.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:06 PM

View PostTasals, on 26 November 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

They spray them with yellow paint instead of white paint.
The dimple depth is definitely different. Its not just a colour thing. Unless the chemistry of the yellow means it has to be sealed differently.
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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:07 PM

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:10 PM

View PostBigmean, on 26 November 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

Ask Dean Snell from Snell golf. I seem to remember him mentioning it somewhere in the Snell golf ball thread. He is great about responding.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:41 PM

I'm only a connoisseur of the blue ball variety

I'm of no help on yellow
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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:16 PM

Since Surlyn is a resin, a colorant can be added before extrusion as the cover. My best guess is that the yellow reflects light differently making the dimples look shallower.
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Posted 26 November 2017 - 01:56 PM

View PostMr. Grumpy, on 26 November 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Since Surlyn is a resin, a colorant can be added before extrusion as the cover. My best guess is that the yellow reflects light differently making the dimples look shallower.
You may be right but they look substantially shallower and it just shrugs off the sharpie.
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Posted 26 November 2017 - 05:55 PM

View PostLondoner, on 26 November 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Today ive been using nike rbz white, in yellow finish.

How do they make these?  My guess is they make white ones and then "refurbish" them in yellow.

To me the dimples seem shallower, as they would if oversprayed and re varnished. Also my red sharpie marking can pretty well be rubbed off at any time, unlike on a "normal" ball. With driver the ball seems 8-10 yards longer! Is this due to shallower dimples and increased weight?

If my summation is correct.
Are balls tested for conformity , incl weight, in each colour? Or are they just type tested in white and the manufacturer allowed colour modifications after?
Am I on to something here?
Dean Snell explained it in the post linked below.

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry15131240

Edited by grm24, 26 November 2017 - 05:55 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2017 - 07:28 PM

View Postgrm24, on 26 November 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 26 November 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Today ive been using nike rbz white, in yellow finish.

How do they make these?  My guess is they make white ones and then "refurbish" them in yellow.

To me the dimples seem shallower, as they would if oversprayed and re varnished. Also my red sharpie marking can pretty well be rubbed off at any time, unlike on a "normal" ball. With driver the ball seems 8-10 yards longer! Is this due to shallower dimples and increased weight?

If my summation is correct.
Are balls tested for conformity , incl weight, in each colour? Or are they just type tested in white and the manufacturer allowed colour modifications after?
Am I on to something here?
Dean Snell explained it in the post linked below.

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry15131240
Thanks for that. Although hes only addressing urethane balls it was interesting that one type needed 2 coats of varnish. Not clear if its because of the colour or just the process.  The rzn white is not urethane,  its ionomer.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 12:33 PM

Didn't Dean Snell explain in one of his posts that the urethane ball's color is actually part of the urethane itself while the surlyn balls are actually painted in the different colors?  That's why making colored urethane balls is more difficult and more expensive as well.  This might have been on one of his videos.

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:49 PM

View Postjimb6golf, on 27 November 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

Didn't Dean Snell explain in one of his posts that the urethane ball's color is actually part of the urethane itself while the surlyn balls are actually painted in the different colors?  That's why making colored urethane balls is more difficult and more expensive as well.  This might have been on one of his videos.
The above link kindly provided explains the urethane process very well. Im looking for the ionomer one but havnt had time to scan the whole thread.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:51 PM

The same way you make yellow snow.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:53 PM

If you want a yellow ProV1 just leave it sitting out in the sun for six months.

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

View PostItsjustagame, on 27 November 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

The same way you make yellow snow.

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 04:12 PM

My bags ball pocket has a bunch of yellow Z-Stars along with various white balls, and the white balls have yellow residue on them now.  When you cut a Z-Star the cover is yellow underneath so the color goes deep/through the cover.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:41 PM

View PostNessism, on 27 November 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

My bags ball pocket has a bunch of yellow Z-Stars along with various white balls, and the white balls have yellow residue on them now.  When you cut a Z-Star the cover is yellow underneath so the color goes deep/through the cover.
hmmm. But why do the yellow ones not have white residue on them?
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Posted 28 November 2017 - 05:01 AM

They feed the chickens a diet heavy with yellow rice, corn, and cheese so that when the balls hatch, they are yellow.

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 09:28 PM

View PostItsjustagame, on 27 November 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

The same way you make yellow snow.

Lol. Same thing I've always said about Heineken beer. If I wanted a beer to taste like that I'd just buy a case of Natty Light and leave it in my trunk all summer. Maybe even two summers.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:32 PM

View PostLondoner, on 26 November 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Today ive been using nike rbz white, in yellow finish.

How do they make these?  My guess is they make white ones and then "refurbish" them in yellow.

To me the dimples seem shallower, as they would if oversprayed and re varnished. Also my red sharpie marking can pretty well be rubbed off at any time, unlike on a "normal" ball. With driver the ball seems 8-10 yards longer! Is this due to shallower dimples and increased weight?

If my summation is correct.
Are balls tested for conformity , incl weight, in each colour? Or are they just type tested in white and the manufacturer allowed colour modifications after?
Am I on to something here?
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:56 AM

View PostLondoner, on 26 November 2017 - 01:56 PM, said:

View PostMr. Grumpy, on 26 November 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Since Surlyn is a resin, a colorant can be added before extrusion as the cover. My best guess is that the yellow reflects light differently making the dimples look shallower.
You may be right but they look substantially shallower and it just shrugs off the sharpie.
Mixing a colorant in Surlyn is not difficult. Painting a Surlyn ball "evenly" with yellow paint is more difficult than colorant processes. So when you cut a color ball on the market, you will find the color is not on the surface only (by painting), but the entire cover is colorful (adding colorant in Surlyn).

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 10:07 AM

I literally loled! ahhaha

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