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Trip To Phoenix Area: Where To Play!!??

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#31 DrSchteeve

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 08:18 PM

View PostBirdieRoll, on 25 November 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

I'd put Verde River on your short list. Desert layout. Fun track, overseed went well, and you've got to take a drive thru the desert just to get to the course.

Sadly Verse River was renovated poorly so the layout is worse as are reported conditions. They are also going private and may be discouraging visitors. Just 2 years ago it was a great track with no downside.

Edited by DrSchteeve, 25 November 2017 - 08:19 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:47 AM

We will be there for 10 days in November (late, hopefully after OS has all gone) and plan to play Pinnacle, Monument, Saguaro, Ak Chin, Quintero and Raptor plus 3 others from Talking Stick Oo'm, Boulders North, Wigwam gold, Big Wick, and TPC Champions. Missed any? Maybe even go up to Oak Creek at Sedona but not sure if it's worth the trip. Comments? Forgot Mountain Shadows.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:08 AM

View PostChanceman, on 11 January 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

We will be there for 10 days in November (late, hopefully after OS has all gone) and plan to play Pinnacle, Monument, Saguaro, Ak Chin, Quintero and Raptor plus 3 others from Talking Stick Oo'm, Boulders North, Wigwam gold, Big Wick, and TPC Champions. Missed any? Maybe even go up to Oak Creek at Sedona but not sure if it's worth the trip. Comments? Forgot Mountain Shadows.

Note:   Boulders swaps courses, so make sure North is available to play when you want.   While North is the better course, South is the more interesting and dramatic(view/layout).

Oak Creek may not be worth the trip on its own, but you could include Sedona Golf resort or try to get on Seven Canyons as well.

I would choose Verrado over Wigwam 99/100 times....you are talking a average resort layout versus a very good course with views and elevation.  Plus a 2nd course now.  

Not sure why you would exclude TPC Stadium if coming all the way to AZ.  Not that expensive in Nov.

Also, as a visitor, I would recommend you skip Talking Stick and replace with Dinosaur Mtn.....you will enjoy it more.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:44 AM

Have just noticed Raven. It does not get many comments. Is it worth considering as an option to say Boulders or Varrado?

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 05:28 PM

View PostChanceman, on 12 January 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

Have just noticed Raven. It does not get many comments. Is it worth considering as an option to say Boulders or Varrado?

Most definitely not.....Raven is a simple/lackluster layout.  Not on the same level as the other two.  Usually it is a getaway or arrival/warmup round if anything for visitors


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 05:29 PM

View PostMohigolf1207, on 22 November 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

Hi there guys,

This is my first post here as I mostly just comb the classifieds, but I figured this would be a good way to use the community.  

My Dad and I are going on vacation to Phoenix in December (right around Christmas) for a tournament out there, but we are going a few days early to play some golf out in the desert.  We have never played golf in the area so I've been combing through everything I can find to pick out some courses that look nice, but you guys are my last filter here before I start to make some decisions.

A few criteria I have for the courses I'm looking at are; I want to feel like I'm playing DESERT golf (i.e. I want to see some cacti just off the course), good course conditions (mostly talking about the putting surface here), and a challenging and interesting layout.  I have three days to play, MAYBE could play 36 in one day, but I am looking for 2 courses < $100 per player and one that can be a bit over that. With that said here are a few I took a look at that seem in my range, but if there is something I'm really missing out on feel free to let me know.
  • Longbow Golf Club
  • Estrella Golf Club
  • Las Sendas Golf Club
  • Foothills Golf Club
  • Arizona Grand Golf Course
  • Grayhawk Golf Course
  • The Boulders
  • Troon North
  • We Ko Pa
  • Southern Dunes
Thanks for the help!


WeKoPa is all you need to know.  2 courses and all desert golf.  That said, The Boulders is very scenic and plays thru the desert as well.
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Posted 15 January 2018 - 05:39 PM

View PostTK3, on 15 January 2018 - 05:29 PM, said:

View PostMohigolf1207, on 22 November 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

Hi there guys,

This is my first post here as I mostly just comb the classifieds, but I figured this would be a good way to use the community.  

My Dad and I are going on vacation to Phoenix in December (right around Christmas) for a tournament out there, but we are going a few days early to play some golf out in the desert.  We have never played golf in the area so I've been combing through everything I can find to pick out some courses that look nice, but you guys are my last filter here before I start to make some decisions.

A few criteria I have for the courses I'm looking at are; I want to feel like I'm playing DESERT golf (i.e. I want to see some cacti just off the course), good course conditions (mostly talking about the putting surface here), and a challenging and interesting layout.  I have three days to play, MAYBE could play 36 in one day, but I am looking for 2 courses < $100 per player and one that can be a bit over that. With that said here are a few I took a look at that seem in my range, but if there is something I'm really missing out on feel free to let me know.
  • Longbow Golf Club
  • Estrella Golf Club
  • Las Sendas Golf Club
  • Foothills Golf Club
  • Arizona Grand Golf Course
  • Grayhawk Golf Course
  • The Boulders
  • Troon North
  • We Ko Pa
  • Southern Dunes
Thanks for the help!


WeKoPa is all you need to know.  2 courses and all desert golf.  That said, The Boulders is very scenic and plays thru the desert as well.

And both will be closer to $200 per round at that time, not the requested $100 or less.
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Posted 15 January 2018 - 09:21 PM

I just want to update you all on how everything went for us on our trip....

Our schedule went like this;
Day 1:  Fly out at 5:00 AM Denver time, arrive in PHX at ~7:00 AM, get rental car eat etc., then drive down to Ak-Chin for 10:30 AM tee time.
Day 2:  Play Longbow at 11:00 AM
Day 3:  Play We-Ko-Pa Saguaro at 10:00 AM
Day 4:  Play practice round at McCormick Ranch Palm at 7:40 AM
Day 5:  Play practice round at McCormick Ranch Pine at 7:40 AM
Day 6:  Tournament
Day 7:  Tournament
Day 8:  Play GC of Estrella at 12:30 PM

Final thoughts:
I LOVED Ak Chin Southern Dunes.  If I make it back out again that's a must play on my list which seems to be pretty consistent with everyone else's opinion.  I loved how the entire course was overseeded and I really enjoyed how the layout was not repetitive.  Overall the course was in great condition as well.  Also probably helped that I shot a 76 on 5 hours of sleep too but it is what it is :dntknw: .  

I thought Longbow was pretty nice, but a tough course for a first time play vacationing golfer.  The major reason for that play was to study it for the AJGA I'll likely play in this coming spring.  I'm an aviation guy so I loved being buzzed by old bombers all day, and because it was so close to Christmas there weren't any Apaches.  Course wasn't fully overseeded (fairways, greens and tee boxes only) and that was a minus for me as well.  Tough layout but probably wouldn't recommend if you've never played there before.  

We-Ko-Pa was a BEAUTIFUL course.  Unfortunately I decided I could play a par 71 at 7,100 yards not at my normal elevation??  That kind of ruined my experience on the back nine where there was a ton of elevation change and it was a challenge to hit long irons into confusing greens.  I found the front nine more appealing, and maybe a little less gimmicky, so I enjoyed that a little more.  This is a would recommend but I think it would be a good idea to play a bit of an easier tee box due to the elevation changes on the back nine, plus you'll want to just enjoy your round.  Again not fully overseeded (fairways, greens and tee boxes only) which was a minus but not the end of the world, especially when the greens are rolling a likely 12.

McCormick Ranch...........
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GC of Estrella was an interesting course, but I think I was a little wiped out at this point and was ready to be done.  A nice layout in my opinion.  Had some houses on it but nothing that really severely detracted from the overall feel of the course.  The last 2 holes were absolutely beautiful especially as the sun was setting as we played them.  Unfortunately for some reason they decided to only oversee tee boxes and fairways.  It was quite apparent as I have played all kinds of grass that the greens we were putting on were crusty painted Bermuda.  The ball wouldn't quite stay on line and it was impossible to set my putter down without it sliding which made it really difficult to line up anything.  Probably a yes from me in the spring when everything is alive again but in the winter with that overseeding probably a no.

Overall a wonderful trip that went off pretty flawlessly thanks to all of your suggestions and feedback.  I think you guys are all the secret to planning a great trip, and I'm giving you all full credit for the great time we had.
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Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:18 PM

Just did the trip myself...best value is to score a $99 tee time on the TPC Champions booking it online for around 10 a.m.  They always have a few reduced rates each day.  You'll finish up right as happy hour starts, so cruise on over to the happy hour at Toro which is the Latin restaurant across the street at the TPC Stadium.

Saguro is great too.  But at $187 or so, it's not 100% better (based on price) than TPC Champions with a happy hour at Toro.  Don't go this weekend though.
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 09:35 AM

We use club west as a warm up course. we go there straight from the airport.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 07:17 PM

Just got back this week. Club West is coming back nicely. Give it a year it will be very very good. New owners pumping $$ back into it.

Gotta play ASU Karsten before they bulldoze it if you've never played it. Pete Dye 1989 design. It gets a ton of play and looks like it but it's a fun track. Greens are still tricky and it's fun to move the ball around there. Too bad all the construction and industry crowd it out. Not a clean view left on the course without power lines or buildings on top of you. Play it before it's gone so you can say you did.
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Posted 23 February 2018 - 07:50 PM

View Postmagnus7319, on 23 February 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

Just got back this week. Club West is coming back nicely. Give it a year it will be very very good. New owners pumping $$ back into it.

Gotta play ASU Karsten before they bulldoze it if you've never played it. Pete Dye 1989 design. It gets a ton of play and looks like it but it's a fun track. Greens are still tricky and it's fun to move the ball around there. Too bad all the construction and industry crowd it out. Not a clean view left on the course without power lines or buildings on top of you. Play it before it's gone so you can say you did.

Or never play it and count yourself lucky.
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Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:55 PM

View Postmagnus7319, on 23 February 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

Just got back this week. Club West is coming back nicely. Give it a year it will be very very good. New owners pumping $$ back into it.

Gotta play ASU Karsten before they bulldoze it if you've never played it. Pete Dye 1989 design. It gets a ton of play and looks like it but it's a fun track. Greens are still tricky and it's fun to move the ball around there. Too bad all the construction and industry crowd it out. Not a clean view left on the course without power lines or buildings on top of you. Play it before it's gone so you can say you did.
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Posted 23 February 2018 - 09:55 PM

Don't forget to let me know when the official bulldozing of Karsten starts so i can bring some champagne to celebrate.
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Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:05 PM

Lol. I guess I didn't think it was that bad. I was just enjoying the day as it was snowing back home in NY.

I guess next time I'm out that way I'll have to investigate better options then. 👍

I'll look into these other courses mentioned here. They look like they'd be much better.

Edited by magnus7319, 23 February 2018 - 10:17 PM.

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