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#31 heavy_hitter

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 01:23 PM

The more and more my son does the Drive 400 the better and better it gets.  The program itself has a soft tissue workout which is awesome.  A soft tissue workout is extremely important for golfers.  It really helps with joints, agility, maneuverability, reduces soft tissue restrictions that can p[prohibit you from swinging properly, as well as reduce the chances of injury.  My daughters college team does soft tissue workouts every other day, they work.  The stretch program is very good as well.  It works the areas of the body that you really need to engage to increase swing speed.  The swing program itself not only works on speed, but it works developing BALANCE and engaging the proper muscles to develop a powerful swing and increase club head speed.  For these reasons alone I would invest the $25.00 into Rob's program.  His coach today at his lesson asked what he was doing because he could see a definite improvement in distance.


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Posted 21 March 2018 - 01:49 PM

Broke down and purchased the Super Speeds about a week and a half ago.  So far really liking it better than the Drive 400.  While the Drive 400 was great, it took too much time out of the day for a junior golfer.  He would spend 30 minutes just on stretching and rolling out muscles.  SS program takes about 15-20 minutes start to finish.  

After stretching I measure Swing Speed on the Voice Caddie every single session.  After the SS program I measure the swing speed again.  He is 3-4 mph faster after the training session than before it.  I give him 3 swings before the session and take the best then another 3 swings after the session and take the best.  Ball speed is more important, but we are using SoftCore range balls that I know don't correlate to the distance of the Pro V he is now using.  After a month I will give you updated results on the mph increases.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 06:24 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 21 March 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

Broke down and purchased the Super Speeds about a week and a half ago.  So far really liking it better than the Drive 400.  While the Drive 400 was great, it took too much time out of the day for a junior golfer.  He would spend 30 minutes just on stretching and rolling out muscles.  SS program takes about 15-20 minutes start to finish.  

After stretching I measure Swing Speed on the Voice Caddie every single session.  After the SS program I measure the swing speed again.  He is 3-4 mph faster after the training session than before it.  I give him 3 swings before the session and take the best then another 3 swings after the session and take the best.  Ball speed is more important, but we are using SoftCore range balls that I know don't correlate to the distance of the Pro V he is now using.  After a month I will give you updated results on the mph increases.

Hey Heavy,

Thanks for sharing. I have been waiting to pull the trigger on this. Looks like you have cost me some more money...again!!! HA!!  I emailed Superspeed awhile back to ask if I should get the junior set or the regular. They recommended the Junior set. Is that what you bought?

Thanks again

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 06:53 AM

View PostPalmetto Golfer, on 22 March 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 21 March 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

Broke down and purchased the Super Speeds about a week and a half ago.  So far really liking it better than the Drive 400.  While the Drive 400 was great, it took too much time out of the day for a junior golfer.  He would spend 30 minutes just on stretching and rolling out muscles.  SS program takes about 15-20 minutes start to finish.  

After stretching I measure Swing Speed on the Voice Caddie every single session.  After the SS program I measure the swing speed again.  He is 3-4 mph faster after the training session than before it.  I give him 3 swings before the session and take the best then another 3 swings after the session and take the best.  Ball speed is more important, but we are using SoftCore range balls that I know don't correlate to the distance of the Pro V he is now using.  After a month I will give you updated results on the mph increases.

Hey Heavy,

Thanks for sharing. I have been waiting to pull the trigger on this. Looks like you have cost me some more money...again!!! HA!!  I emailed Superspeed awhile back to ask if I should get the junior set or the regular. They recommended the Junior set. Is that what you bought?

Thanks again

There are three sets geared towards junior golfers, Pee Wee, All Star and Junior.  Each has a different total length and weight.  The goal is to start with the lightest SS trainer to be 20% lighter than driver, then 10% lighter and then 5% heavier.  Figure out your current driver weight and length and then decide from there.

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#35 heavy_hitter

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 07:35 AM

View PostPalmetto Golfer, on 22 March 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 21 March 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

Broke down and purchased the Super Speeds about a week and a half ago.  So far really liking it better than the Drive 400.  While the Drive 400 was great, it took too much time out of the day for a junior golfer.  He would spend 30 minutes just on stretching and rolling out muscles.  SS program takes about 15-20 minutes start to finish.  

After stretching I measure Swing Speed on the Voice Caddie every single session.  After the SS program I measure the swing speed again.  He is 3-4 mph faster after the training session than before it.  I give him 3 swings before the session and take the best then another 3 swings after the session and take the best.  Ball speed is more important, but we are using SoftCore range balls that I know don't correlate to the distance of the Pro V he is now using.  After a month I will give you updated results on the mph increases.

Hey Heavy,

Thanks for sharing. I have been waiting to pull the trigger on this. Looks like you have cost me some more money...again!!! HA!!  I emailed Superspeed awhile back to ask if I should get the junior set or the regular. They recommended the Junior set. Is that what you bought?

Thanks again

They recommended the Adult set.  He is already swinging adult driver not cut down and was at 90mph at the time.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:32 AM

We are in week 5.5 of doing the SuperSpeed training.  He will do the dynamic stretching then hit 3 balls before the training session.  Using the Swing Caddie SC200 to measure his swing speed he usually starts somewhere around 87-88 mph.  During the SuperSpeed session I have a sports radar that he uses so that to improve the swing speed with the SS's each swing.  After the SuperSpeed program he hits another 3 balls and we measure each.  The first session he measured 91 mph on those 3 swings.  Fast forward 5.5 weeks later and his before is 89/90 mph and his after is 93mph.  Will continue to monitor and update.

In regards to over speed training, just using one weighted club will not work.  There is an entire thread on it.  You have to use the 3 weighted system for the speed training to work.  We tried the Drive 400 program and it did not work.  Reason why is that you are only using the Driver that you have to do the training.  Over Speed training is training and making your brain believe that you can swing faster.  You can't do this with just one weighted club.  One weighted club will only be giving you a physical work out and not training your brain to swing faster.

http://www.golfwrx.c...rspeed__st__120

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:33 AM

seems like A LOT of people doing this now

wonder if it gets to the point where juniors who don't will be at a disadvantage (similar to OEM drivers)?

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:18 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 16 April 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

seems like A LOT of people doing this now

wonder if it gets to the point where juniors who don't will be at a disadvantage (similar to OEM drivers)?
Donít believe those are comparable.  In my opinion over speed training is much more important.. cause either you have speed or not, itís not something you can just buy on eBay.

I tell my son get your speed with over speed and develop a efficient swing.  We can always buy a OEM club but you canít but the rest.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 01:23 PM

View Postkcap, on 16 April 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

View PostCTgolf, on 16 April 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

seems like A LOT of people doing this now

wonder if it gets to the point where juniors who don't will be at a disadvantage (similar to OEM drivers)?
Don't believe those are comparable.  In my opinion over speed training is much more important.. cause either you have speed or not, it's not something you can just buy on eBay.

I tell my son get your speed with over speed and develop a efficient swing.  We can always buy a OEM club but you can't but the rest.

I am not convinced overspeed training really works in the long run especially for juniors. Juniors are growing a lot so swing speed should be increasing over a period of time.

I am saying it doesn't work just that it may not be whats behind the increase that is claimed you either have speed or you don't.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:12 PM

View Posttiger1873, on 16 April 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:


I am not convinced overspeed training really works in the long run especially for juniors. Juniors are growing a lot so swing speed should be increasing over a period of time.

I am saying it doesn't work just that it may not be whats behind the increase that is claimed you either have speed or you don't.

That's cool.  Everyone else will be down the fairway waiting for you to hit.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:14 PM

View Posttiger1873, on 16 April 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

View Postkcap, on 16 April 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

View PostCTgolf, on 16 April 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

seems like A LOT of people doing this now

wonder if it gets to the point where juniors who don't will be at a disadvantage (similar to OEM drivers)?
Don't believe those are comparable.  In my opinion over speed training is much more important.. cause either you have speed or not, it's not something you can just buy on eBay.

I tell my son get your speed with over speed and develop a efficient swing.  We can always buy a OEM club but you can't but the rest.

I am not convinced overspeed training really works in the long run especially for juniors. Juniors are growing a lot so swing speed should be increasing over a period of time.

I am saying it doesn't work just that it may not be whats behind the increase that is claimed you either have speed or you don't.

It works and has been documented to work for Junior Golfers.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:54 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 April 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

We are in week 5.5 of doing the SuperSpeed training.  He will do the dynamic stretching then hit 3 balls before the training session.  Using the Swing Caddie SC200 to measure his swing speed he usually starts somewhere around 87-88 mph.  During the SuperSpeed session I have a sports radar that he uses so that to improve the swing speed with the SS's each swing.  After the SuperSpeed program he hits another 3 balls and we measure each.  The first session he measured 91 mph on those 3 swings.  Fast forward 5.5 weeks later and his before is 89/90 mph and his after is 93mph.  Will continue to monitor and update.

In regards to over speed training, just using one weighted club will not work.  There is an entire thread on it.  You have to use the 3 weighted system for the speed training to work.  We tried the Drive 400 program and it did not work.  Reason why is that you are only using the Driver that you have to do the training.  Over Speed training is training and making your brain believe that you can swing faster.  You can't do this with just one weighted club.  One weighted club will only be giving you a physical work out and not training your brain to swing faster.

http://www.golfwrx.c...rspeed__st__120

Thanks for posting on the results.  This is very kind of you to let us in on what is happening.  My son's set will come in on Friday.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:04 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 April 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

We are in week 5.5 of doing the SuperSpeed training.  He will do the dynamic stretching then hit 3 balls before the training session.  Using the Swing Caddie SC200 to measure his swing speed he usually starts somewhere around 87-88 mph.  During the SuperSpeed session I have a sports radar that he uses so that to improve the swing speed with the SS's each swing.  After the SuperSpeed program he hits another 3 balls and we measure each.  The first session he measured 91 mph on those 3 swings.  Fast forward 5.5 weeks later and his before is 89/90 mph and his after is 93mph.  Will continue to monitor and update.

In regards to over speed training, just using one weighted club will not work.  There is an entire thread on it.  You have to use the 3 weighted system for the speed training to work.  We tried the Drive 400 program and it did not work.  Reason why is that you are only using the Driver that you have to do the training.  Over Speed training is training and making your brain believe that you can swing faster.  You can't do this with just one weighted club.  One weighted club will only be giving you a physical work out and not training your brain to swing faster.

http://www.golfwrx.c...rspeed__st__120

Picked up this set also. My son(13) and I do it every other day together. Actually has him excited and looking forward to training on this 3-4x a week. After a week his weighted swings speeds have gone up significantly. They will likely plateau in week 2 onwards after the initial bump. His Driver swing speed used to be around 72-75 mph. His Driver swing speed has jumped to 82mph now. I think this is more about the technique aspect. The weighted sticks training helps in building the lag. He can see that immediately on the swing speed radar when training. So, as he is engaging his lower body more and feeling his arms mostly relaxed in the swing, the resulting swing speeds have gone up, and the contact is better.

It will be interesting to monitor the progress few weeks into it to see if the results are sustainable for him

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