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#31 dhartmann34

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:09 PM

If you're in Iowa DEFINITELY The Harvester! It's incredible. You have to experience it.

And if you're able to, pair it with Amana Colonies. Great elevation changes and layout.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 04:25 PM

I personally think the best course nobody talks about is my home course...but I don't want to talk about it.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 04:40 PM

Biderman in Wilmington, DE.

Always pure, beautiful facilities and always empty. I've been told they do between 7-9k rounds a year. Classic Dick Wilson design cut through the hills among the Northern DE, Southeastern PA border. I could play there every day.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:00 PM

View Postmountaintop, on 20 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

In Colorado...all doable from DIA.  All public access.

Bear Dance
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Played Bear Dance in August on a guys trip... that is a really good golf course.  Some cool holes, a lot of memorable holes, and it's a pretty golf course as well.  Huge fan of that place.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:23 PM

View Postmountaintop, on 20 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

In Colorado...all doable from DIA.  All public access.

Bear Dance
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Played Bear Dance about 3 years ago, visiting my friend.  Also played Highland Ranch, Arrowhead and a private club called Raveena.  Bear Dance was my favorite, such a neat place.


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 07:00 AM

Two that Iíve played that I love

Country Club of Scranton - classic PA course in phenomenal condition with tough greens
Monroe Golf Club - Donald Ross course in Rochester, NY that gets overshadowed by Oak Hill



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Posted 28 November 2017 - 09:01 AM

Rustic Canyon


Still one of my favorite courses ever.

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:53 AM

View Postmci711, on 20 November 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

The Harvester in Iowa. Underrated even as a top 50 public course. Middle of nowhere, but it is awesome.

This. 1,000,000,000x this

Pls do yourself a favor and play this when your passing through Iowa.

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 12:30 PM

View Postcallawayjay, on 28 November 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

View Postmci711, on 20 November 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

The Harvester in Iowa. Underrated even as a top 50 public course. Middle of nowhere, but it is awesome.

This. 1,000,000,000x this

Pls do yourself a favor and play this when your passing through Iowa.

Harvester is very high on the list of courses I want to play
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Posted 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 02:33 PM

View PostFairwayFred, on 17 November 2017 - 11:22 PM, said:

Moraine Country Club in Dayton, OH.  

Meadowbrook Country Club in Northville, MI.

Sweetens Cove Golf Club in S Pittsburg, TN.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They donít shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9ís. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

Itís a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:02 PM

View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:46 PM

View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

I'm no high-roller, but since when is $100 or so for a round high?
And there are lot's of golfers spending well above that for a round of golf, who have no appreciation for a 'perfect course'. You might even call them riff raff.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:23 PM

View Postnew2g0lf, on 20 November 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

There are a lot of courses I like but the one of the better ones almost no one talks about is Bethpage Red course.  Everyone wants to play the Black course but Red is a tough par 70, 6,875 yard course that is usually in great condition and provides plenty of risk / reward decisions to longer hitters.
Yes indeed, I played it alone one very cold April day when the Black was closed and had a great time, even on foot . It sure is fun. But I still hanker to go back and have a shot at the Black.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:16 PM

View PostAlecEmersonGolf, on 28 November 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

View PostFairwayFred, on 17 November 2017 - 11:22 PM, said:

Moraine Country Club in Dayton, OH.  

Meadowbrook Country Club in Northville, MI.

Sweetens Cove Golf Club in S Pittsburg, TN.
How is the new Meadowbrook? I haven't played it since the redesign

I think it's fantastic.  It's quirky and fun with some really great green complexes including some templates like a punchbowl, lions mouth and biarritz along with a replica of the bathtub green that Willie Park built at Hunterscombe in England and an amazing little backboard green that's really cool and unique.  It has a decidedly old school, pre-1920s feel to it that I love.  They took a ton of trees out and really opened up what is a great piece of property.  It's designed to be firm and fast and reward the ground game.  It's very unique for the Detroit area.  I think it's a huge home run.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:31 PM

View PostChanceman, on 29 November 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

View Postnew2g0lf, on 20 November 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

There are a lot of courses I like but the one of the better ones almost no one talks about is Bethpage Red course.  Everyone wants to play the Black course but Red is a tough par 70, 6,875 yard course that is usually in great condition and provides plenty of risk / reward decisions to longer hitters.
Yes indeed, I played it alone one very cold April day when the Black was closed and had a great time, even on foot . It sure is fun. But I still hanker to go back and have a shot at the Black.

Black is a championship course and it's a great way to measure your progress as a golfer.  First time I played it, I was literally exhausted from walking the course.  I'm pretty sure I saw areas on that course no one else has.  Each year has been progressively better but it's still a really tough challenge.  Red is also very challenging but no one gets excited when you tell them you played Bethpage and follow it up with Red.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:43 PM

View Postduffer987, on 29 November 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

I'm no high-roller, but since when is $100 or so for a round high?
And there are lot's of golfers spending well above that for a round of golf, who have no appreciation for a 'perfect course'. You might even call them riff raff.

iowans complain about the price of a round there when there are multiple options with a+ conditions at a fraction of the price. Itís not hard to grow grass and have wonderful conditions in Iowa.

When they first opened they were upper 60-70$ range and the course was a lot more full than it is now. When I go I might see 3 cars in the lot all day. And itís perfect.

Itís 15 minutes north of prairie meadows casino/horse track. You tell me why the tee sheet is empty if it isnít price. Itís the best thing for 200 square miles

Iíve never seen the July 31 restriction. I always stay on property in August.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:02 PM

Everyone who mentioned The Harvester is a genius.

The architect, Keith Foster, is responsible for other under-the-radar gems around the country. Three of my favorites in Texas are:
  • The Quarry (San Antonio)
  • The Bandit (Seguin)
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Each year, the Monday qualifier for the Houston Open is held at the Tradition, and US Open qualifiers are often held there, too.

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  • Nevel Meade (Prospect, KY)
  • The Wilderness (Lake Jackson, TX)

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:12 PM

Spirit Hollow in Burlington, Iowa. In the same league as the Harvester imo.


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:31 PM

View Postpearsonified, on 30 November 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

Everyone who mentioned The Harvester is a genius.

The architect, Keith Foster, is responsible for other under-the-radar gems around the country. Three of my favorites in Texas are:
  • The Quarry (San Antonio)
  • The Bandit (Seguin)
  • Cypresswood Tradition (Spring)
Each year, the Monday qualifier for the Houston Open is held at the Tradition, and US Open qualifiers are often held there, too.

Some other personal favorites are:
  • Vaaler Creek (Blanco, TX)
  • Nevel Meade (Prospect, KY)
  • The Wilderness (Lake Jackson, TX)

Interesting fact about Keith Foster, he no longer does new courses.  He has decided to concentrate on restoration projects at great old courses and he is one of the best.  He has done amazing work at Philadelphia Cricket Club, Baltimore CC, Colonial CC, Southern Hills, Moraine CC, Orchard Lake CC and others.
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Posted 01 December 2017 - 01:20 PM

View Postadamjstl, on 30 November 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

Spirit Hollow in Burlington, Iowa. In the same league as the Harvester imo.

Spirit Hollow was going to be my mention as well.  Also, Wild Rock Golf Club in Lake Delton, WI.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 02:29 PM

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 05:36 PM

View Postduffer987, on 29 November 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

I'm no high-roller, but since when is $100 or so for a round high?
And there are lot's of golfers spending well above that for a round of golf, who have no appreciation for a 'perfect course'. You might even call them riff raff.

$100 per round is expensive for me. The most expensive course in my area is only $50 in peak season. Also have to consider the location, rural Iowa with no major metro anywhere close and that it’s not a “destination” course, ie. Bandon, Streamsong, etc that are also in the middle of nowhere.

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 08:32 PM

Yocha Dehe near Sacramento/San Francisco is a beautiful and interesting course.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:13 PM

View Postjli2636, on 02 December 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

View Postduffer987, on 29 November 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

I'm no high-roller, but since when is $100 or so for a round high?
And there are lot's of golfers spending well above that for a round of golf, who have no appreciation for a 'perfect course'. You might even call them riff raff.

$100 per round is expensive for me. The most expensive course in my area is only $50 in peak season. Also have to consider the location, rural Iowa with no major metro anywhere close and that it’s not a “destination” course, ie. Bandon, Streamsong, etc that are also in the middle of nowhere.

Agreed. My bone of contention was around the condescension of the 'riff-raff' comment and that a green fee amount is some grand arbiter for deciding who's going to blast tunes, get drunk, and leave cart tire marks.

Oh and just to get on topic: Silloth-On-Solway GC

Edited by duffer987, 04 December 2017 - 01:14 PM.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:14 PM

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View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

I'm no high-roller, but since when is $100 or so for a round high?
And there are lot's of golfers spending well above that for a round of golf, who have no appreciation for a 'perfect course'. You might even call them riff raff.

$100 per round is expensive for me. The most expensive course in my area is only $50 in peak season. Also have to consider the location, rural Iowa with no major metro anywhere close and that it’s not a “destination” course, ie. Bandon, Streamsong, etc that are also in the middle of nowhere.

Agreed. My bone of contention was around the condescension of the 'riff-raff' comment and that a green fee amount is some grand arbiter for deciding who's going to blast tunes, get drunk, and leave cart tire marks.

Yeah, that was pretty rich.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

View Postduffer987, on 04 December 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

View Postjli2636, on 02 December 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

View Postduffer987, on 29 November 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

View Postcallawayjay, on 29 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 28 November 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

Why does Harvester have such a short season? Do they go private after July 31st or just shut it down?

They don't shut it down until November. Every year I make my trek to Iowa the second week in August and stay and play there exclusively.

The owner of the land loves golf and tries to keep the grounds manicured to the 9's. Honestly most days there are  more employees than golfers. And the second point is he has priced the course high to keep out riff raff. He would
Rather present a perfect course to people who would appreciate it

It's a stunning property with absolutely stunning conditions.

I'm no high-roller, but since when is $100 or so for a round high?
And there are lot's of golfers spending well above that for a round of golf, who have no appreciation for a 'perfect course'. You might even call them riff raff.

$100 per round is expensive for me. The most expensive course in my area is only $50 in peak season. Also have to consider the location, rural Iowa with no major metro anywhere close and that itís not a ďdestinationĒ course, ie. Bandon, Streamsong, etc that are also in the middle of nowhere.

Agreed. My bone of contention was around the condescension of the 'riff-raff' comment and that a green fee amount is some grand arbiter for deciding who's going to blast tunes, get drunk, and leave cart tire marks.

Oh and just to get on topic: Silloth-On-Solway GC

Then donít assume my riff raff comment was derogatory. When youíre the most expensive course in 12 zip codes you do it for a reason.

Golf course riff raff in my mind is jorts or jeans. Period

Edited by callawayjay, 04 December 2017 - 04:40 PM.


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