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Posted 22 October 2018 - 06:17 AM

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 01:46 PM

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A state by state look at the courses with interesting architecture that cost less than $100.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 03:49 PM

 Chanceman, on 15 December 2017 - 02:45 AM, said:

San Juan Oaks in the San Francisco area is an excellent Fred Couples track. Head south on I101 from San Jose and you will find it. A little secluded but well worth the effort.

Thanks for mentioning my home course. I get to play it at least three times a week. :golfer: But right now, the bunkers are in need of some TLC. And the wild pigs have rototilled some spots in the fairways.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:04 PM

I guess another name for this thread could be "hidden gems" and for my money it's hard to beat Diamond Valley golf club in Hemet, CA.  http://www.diamondvalleygolf.net/
  It's a shame this property is falling into some disrepair because it is just a fantastically fun course.  For starters they did a wonderful job utilizing the property because it is pretty compact but you never feel crowded on any hole.  So the routing is excellent.  There is a great mix of easy and difficult holes with several really fun risk/reward holes that present just the right ratio of that to make it tempting provided you are playing the proper tees.  It's visually stimulating and no two holes really the same.  Love that place and its a shame what is happening to it.  I hope someone can rescue it because the fun factor there is really high.
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:46 PM

There is this place out in Oregon called Bandon Du... Okay, more seriously

1. Wildhorse, Gothenburg, NE. I've played this course over 100 times and I love it more every chance I get.
2. Bear Dance, Larkspur CO is a super unique experience and helps you feel in the mountains without having to go.
3. Dacotah Ridge in Morton, MN is pure and you usually get to play it almost as a private course. Can be hog barn smell depending on the winds.
4. Sutton Bay, SD. Private but is such a legit, unique experience where you can golf and walleye fish all together.
5. Prairie Club in Valentine NE is amazing but not sure it belongs on this list.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:02 PM

 TheKrushh, on 23 October 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

There is this place out in Oregon called Bandon Du... Okay, more seriously

1. Wildhorse, Gothenburg, NE. I've played this course over 100 times and I love it more every chance I get.
2. Bear Dance, Larkspur CO is a super unique experience and helps you feel in the mountains without having to go.
3. Dacotah Ridge in Morton, MN is pure and you usually get to play it almost as a private course. Can be hog barn smell depending on the winds.
4. Sutton Bay, SD. Private but is such a legit, unique experience where you can golf and walleye fish all together.
5. Prairie Club in Valentine NE is amazing but not sure it belongs on this list.

played Bear Dance a few years back with a friend who lives in Denver.  Was my favorite course I played while out there and probably in my Top 10 all time.  Such a fun/good golf course.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:19 PM

 TheKrushh, on 23 October 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

There is this place out in Oregon called Bandon Du... Okay, more seriously

1. Wildhorse, Gothenburg, NE. I've played this course over 100 times and I love it more every chance I get.
2. Bear Dance, Larkspur CO is a super unique experience and helps you feel in the mountains without having to go.
3. Dacotah Ridge in Morton, MN is pure and you usually get to play it almost as a private course. Can be hog barn smell depending on the winds.
4. Sutton Bay, SD. Private but is such a legit, unique experience where you can golf and walleye fish all together.
5. Prairie Club in Valentine NE is amazing but not sure it belongs on this list.

I don't live very far from Sutton Bay and I've never had the chance to play but someday I hope to.
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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:46 PM

 ddetts, on 24 October 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

 TheKrushh, on 23 October 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

There is this place out in Oregon called Bandon Du... Okay, more seriously

1. Wildhorse, Gothenburg, NE. I've played this course over 100 times and I love it more every chance I get.
2. Bear Dance, Larkspur CO is a super unique experience and helps you feel in the mountains without having to go.
3. Dacotah Ridge in Morton, MN is pure and you usually get to play it almost as a private course. Can be hog barn smell depending on the winds.
4. Sutton Bay, SD. Private but is such a legit, unique experience where you can golf and walleye fish all together.
5. Prairie Club in Valentine NE is amazing but not sure it belongs on this list.

I don't live very far from Sutton Bay and I've never had the chance to play but someday I hope to.

I grew up in your area. If you haven't, take the time and drive to Sioux Center/Orange City (about an hour) to go play the Ridge and Landsmeer. The ridge is definitely better but both are fun tracks. The Ridge will have some of the nicest/ fastest greens you can putt and I actually helped build the golf course back in the day!

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 05:05 PM

 TheKrushh, on 24 October 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

 ddetts, on 24 October 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

 TheKrushh, on 23 October 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

There is this place out in Oregon called Bandon Du... Okay, more seriously

1. Wildhorse, Gothenburg, NE. I've played this course over 100 times and I love it more every chance I get.
2. Bear Dance, Larkspur CO is a super unique experience and helps you feel in the mountains without having to go.
3. Dacotah Ridge in Morton, MN is pure and you usually get to play it almost as a private course. Can be hog barn smell depending on the winds.
4. Sutton Bay, SD. Private but is such a legit, unique experience where you can golf and walleye fish all together.
5. Prairie Club in Valentine NE is amazing but not sure it belongs on this list.

I don't live very far from Sutton Bay and I've never had the chance to play but someday I hope to.

I grew up in your area. If you haven't, take the time and drive to Sioux Center/Orange City (about an hour) to go play the Ridge and Landsmeer. The ridge is definitely better but both are fun tracks. The Ridge will have some of the nicest/ fastest greens you can putt and I actually helped build the golf course back in the day!

I have had plans to go do both Landsmeer and The Ridge in the same day and for whatever reasons haven't made it happen the last two years. Hopefully next spring I'll get that accomplished! I've heard such good things about both courses.
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Posted 03 November 2018 - 11:10 PM

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:39 AM

 Drudersh, on 27 November 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

Biderman in Wilmington, DE.

Always pure, beautiful facilities and always empty. I've been told they do between 7-9k rounds a year. Classic Dick Wilson design cut through the hills among the Northern DE, Southeastern PA border. I could play there every day.

I live 25 minutes away and have never heard of this place. Guess I gotta check it out.

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 09:44 AM

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 Drudersh, on 27 November 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

Biderman in Wilmington, DE.

Always pure, beautiful facilities and always empty. I've been told they do between 7-9k rounds a year. Classic Dick Wilson design cut through the hills among the Northern DE, Southeastern PA border. I could play there every day.

I live 25 minutes away and have never heard of this place. Guess I gotta check it out.

Bidermann has amazing history!  Originally a 9 hole Devereaux Emmett course that was the Dupont family's private estate course.  Really cool spot.
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Posted 10 November 2018 - 07:04 AM

 Andrew Bond of Glencoe, on 06 December 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

It's a Golf Digest Top 100 Course, but Calusa Pines in Naples is an absolute stunner. I am playing Seminole around the first of 2018, but I have a hard time imagining Seminole will beat out Calusa Pines for Florida's best.
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 10:26 PM

 Drudersh, on 27 November 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

Biderman in Wilmington, DE.

Always pure, beautiful facilities and always empty. I've been told they do between 7-9k rounds a year. Classic Dick Wilson design cut through the hills among the Northern DE, Southeastern PA border. I could play there every day.
I've play Biderman every year with the golf team at the school I coach at--I think I've seen maybe one twosome in the last 3 or 4 years.  It's about as private a course as it gets.  It's always the course I look forward to playing the most each spring season.

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 10:31 PM

For all the guys who travel to Southern California and look at Maderas and Torrey, etc.. the one they miss is Balboa Park.  It's an old favorite.
As for other regions:
Green Mountain National (Vermont)
Donald Ross Course at French Lick (as opposed to the Dye Course)
Carter Plantation (Louisiana)
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:59 PM

Kankakee Elks an old Langford/Moreau design that could easily be one of the top 10 in Illinois with some tree removal and minor work on bunkers.  1 hour south of Chicago and love the course for it is cheap as well (under $50 bucks on a Saturday morning).

I won't pollute my post with others for Kankakee Elks truly deserves its place as special IMO.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 06:00 AM

Formby Golf Club in England and The Island Golf Club in Ireland.

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 07:59 AM

salish cliff  shelton WA
pronghorn  bend OR

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 02:53 PM

Mine would be Brook Valley CC in Greenville NC.  I love this course.  But itís greens will literally kick your a** if you arenít spot on.  

Hereís a link to a write up that tells a lot about the history and the pros who played and won there.  My brother in law is a member and he always treats me to several rounds when we are up.  I look forward to that course more than any other Iíve played.  

Famous exhibition match between Hogan and Snead happened there too.  

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 03:02 PM

My second would be the Roring Gap club in roring gap nc.  

Old Donald Ross design hidden in the nc mountains.  Extremely private course.  I had the pleasure of walking it when my nephew played the nc junior am hosted there.  And had access to the pro shop .  Itís a very small building , wood frame and original from the 20s.  On the walls are hand carved wooden plaques with each club champions name and score.  For nearly 100 years.  Menís and womenís.  And a break for wwII. The absolute neatest  as for history Iíve ever been to. And bar none the nicest bent greens and tee boxes Iíve ever seen. Augusta national included.  Guys were practicing putting on the tee boxes they were so pure. Almost uncomfortable it was so clean.  


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 08:43 PM

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 08:45 PM

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 10:14 AM

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My second would be the Roring Gap club in roring gap nc.  

Old Donald Ross design hidden in the nc mountains.  Extremely private course.  I had the pleasure of walking it when my nephew played the nc junior am hosted there.  And had access to the pro shop .  It's a very small building , wood frame and original from the 20s.  On the walls are hand carved wooden plaques with each club champions name and score.  For nearly 100 years.  Men's and women's.  And a break for wwII. The absolute neatest  as for history I've ever been to. And bar none the nicest bent greens and tee boxes I've ever seen. Augusta national included.  Guys were practicing putting on the tee boxes they were so pure. Almost uncomfortable it was so clean.  


Link to details

https://www.top100go...rse/roaring-gap

Roaring Gap is about a half-hour from my house.  Absolute gem!

A ton of local kids who grow up around the game work at either High Meadows or Roaring Gap every summer over the years.

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 11:08 AM

 Sixcat, on 10 December 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

 bladehunter, on 09 December 2018 - 03:02 PM, said:

My second would be the Roring Gap club in roring gap nc.  

Old Donald Ross design hidden in the nc mountains.  Extremely private course.  I had the pleasure of walking it when my nephew played the nc junior am hosted there.  And had access to the pro shop .  It's a very small building , wood frame and original from the 20s.  On the walls are hand carved wooden plaques with each club champions name and score.  For nearly 100 years.  Men's and women's.  And a break for wwII. The absolute neatest  as for history I've ever been to. And bar none the nicest bent greens and tee boxes I've ever seen. Augusta national included.  Guys were practicing putting on the tee boxes they were so pure. Almost uncomfortable it was so clean.  


Link to details

https://www.top100go...rse/roaring-gap

Roaring Gap is about a half-hour from my house.  Absolute gem!

A ton of local kids who grow up around the game work at either High Meadows or Roaring Gap every summer over the years.

All of the ones youíve talked about are awesome. Olde Mill, Primland, Cross Creek, Roaring Gap, and I would add Linville Ridge and Grandfather as well.

I too live about 20 miles from Primland, and have had the chance to play it 40-50 times, and it is a really fun course to play, but the idea of Primland is the getaway experience (shooting, fishing, 4 wheeling, the lodge itself) so for like $150 less, Olde Mill is a STEAL at $40. Itís just always wet
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 02:01 PM

 JackStraw2, on 10 December 2018 - 11:08 AM, said:

 Sixcat, on 10 December 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

 bladehunter, on 09 December 2018 - 03:02 PM, said:

My second would be the Roring Gap club in roring gap nc.  

Old Donald Ross design hidden in the nc mountains.  Extremely private course.  I had the pleasure of walking it when my nephew played the nc junior am hosted there.  And had access to the pro shop .  It's a very small building , wood frame and original from the 20s.  On the walls are hand carved wooden plaques with each club champions name and score.  For nearly 100 years.  Men's and women's.  And a break for wwII. The absolute neatest  as for history I've ever been to. And bar none the nicest bent greens and tee boxes I've ever seen. Augusta national included.  Guys were practicing putting on the tee boxes they were so pure. Almost uncomfortable it was so clean.  


Link to details

https://www.top100go...rse/roaring-gap

Roaring Gap is about a half-hour from my house.  Absolute gem!

A ton of local kids who grow up around the game work at either High Meadows or Roaring Gap every summer over the years.

All of the ones you've talked about are awesome. Olde Mill, Primland, Cross Creek, Roaring Gap, and I would add Linville Ridge and Grandfather as well.

I too live about 20 miles from Primland, and have had the chance to play it 40-50 times, and it is a really fun course to play, but the idea of Primland is the getaway experience (shooting, fishing, 4 wheeling, the lodge itself) so for like $150 less, Olde Mill is a STEAL at $40. It's just always wet

Olde Mill is a top tier course that doesn't get nearly the recognition it deserves because it's isolated and difficult to get to.  And at $40, you're absolutely correct.  It's a steal!  Olde Mill won't be the only course that's wet for the foreseeable future.  We've had just under 30 inches of rain over the last 90 days and just got 22 inches of snow yesterday.  The rainfall totals shattered the record for 90 day totals for this region by nearly 10 inches.  Those totals don't include the snow we got yesterday.  This whole region will be a bowl of soup when this snow melts!


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 02:59 PM

 Sixcat, on 10 December 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

 JackStraw2, on 10 December 2018 - 11:08 AM, said:

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 bladehunter, on 09 December 2018 - 03:02 PM, said:

My second would be the Roring Gap club in roring gap nc.  

Old Donald Ross design hidden in the nc mountains.  Extremely private course.  I had the pleasure of walking it when my nephew played the nc junior am hosted there.  And had access to the pro shop .  It's a very small building , wood frame and original from the 20s.  On the walls are hand carved wooden plaques with each club champions name and score.  For nearly 100 years.  Men's and women's.  And a break for wwII. The absolute neatest  as for history I've ever been to. And bar none the nicest bent greens and tee boxes I've ever seen. Augusta national included.  Guys were practicing putting on the tee boxes they were so pure. Almost uncomfortable it was so clean.  


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Roaring Gap is about a half-hour from my house.  Absolute gem!

A ton of local kids who grow up around the game work at either High Meadows or Roaring Gap every summer over the years.

All of the ones you've talked about are awesome. Olde Mill, Primland, Cross Creek, Roaring Gap, and I would add Linville Ridge and Grandfather as well.

I too live about 20 miles from Primland, and have had the chance to play it 40-50 times, and it is a really fun course to play, but the idea of Primland is the getaway experience (shooting, fishing, 4 wheeling, the lodge itself) so for like $150 less, Olde Mill is a STEAL at $40. It's just always wet

Olde Mill is a top tier course that doesn't get nearly the recognition it deserves because it's isolated and difficult to get to.  And at $40, you're absolutely correct.  It's a steal!  Olde Mill won't be the only course that's wet for the foreseeable future.  We've had just under 30 inches of rain over the last 90 days and just got 22 inches of snow yesterday.  The rainfall totals shattered the record for 90 day totals for this region by nearly 10 inches.  Those totals don't include the snow we got yesterday.  This whole region will be a bowl of soup when this snow melts!

I feel ya, at the bottom of the mountain weíve had 20+ inches above normal for rain and picked up a smooth 18 at the house. Looks like itíll be carpet putting until March
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 03:12 PM

Just played a perfect candidate for this list:

Silloth on Solway Golf Club (Silloth, England)
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Incredible conditions. Incredible mounding. Middle of nowhere. You HAVE to know about this place to stumble on it. Less than $40 in the winter.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 01:47 PM

Wickenburg Ranch in Wickenburg, Az... It might be the best public course in Arizona.  Its about 70 miles from Phoenix.  It's a great layout which is fun to play, has a nice variety of holes/shots, has some great views and is one of the best conditioned public courses I have ever played.  The place is pure.

I rank it on par, if not ahead, of all of the big name Phoenix/Scottsdale courses (Troon North, WeKoPa, Greyhawk, TPC, etc.)
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 11:48 PM

 SilverBullets, on 11 December 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

Wickenburg Ranch in Wickenburg, Az... It might be the best public course in Arizona.  Its about 70 miles from Phoenix.  It's a great layout which is fun to play, has a nice variety of holes/shots, has some great views and is one of the best conditioned public courses I have ever played.  The place is pure.

I rank it on par, if not ahead, of all of the big name Phoenix/Scottsdale courses (Troon North, WeKoPa, Greyhawk, TPC, etc.)

Second this. Big Wick is awesome and is still the best conditioned place I've ever played. I'd add Ak Chin to the list of really good Phoenix area courses that probably don't get enough love. And you can get some amazing deals out there.
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Posted 12 December 2018 - 01:41 AM

 SilverBullets, on 11 December 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

Wickenburg Ranch in Wickenburg, Az... It might be the best public course in Arizona.  Its about 70 miles from Phoenix.  It's a great layout which is fun to play, has a nice variety of holes/shots, has some great views and is one of the best conditioned public courses I have ever played.  The place is pure.

I rank it on par, if not ahead, of all of the big name Phoenix/Scottsdale courses (Troon North, WeKoPa, Greyhawk, TPC, etc.)

What is the cost to play in the winter?


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