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#1 bchilders87

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:58 PM

Hey guys,  I just recently picked up a G400 SFT Driver, coming from a G30 10.5 played down to 10* standard version with a Graffloy pro launch blue 65 S shaft my swing speed is right around 90-92 handicap is a 13.8.  I installed my Prolaunch in the G400 at standard 10* setting, I'm having alot of trouble with a ballooning ball ( very straight though ) with little no to roll out costing me 30ish yards of distance I lofted the head down and still having same trouble.... Is the G400 a higher launching head then the G30? Should I look at another shaft option? Any advice is greatly appreciated!

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:04 PM

View Postbchilders87, on 14 November 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Hey guys,  I just recently picked up a G400 SFT Driver, coming from a G30 10.5 played down to 10* standard version with a Graffloy pro launch blue 65 S shaft my swing speed is right around 90-92 handicap is a 13.8.  I installed my Prolaunch in the G400 at standard 10* setting, I'm having alot of trouble with a ballooning ball ( very straight though ) with little no to roll out costing me 30ish yards of distance I lofted the head down and still having same trouble.... Is the G400 a higher launching head then the G30? Should I look at another shaft option? Any advice is greatly appreciated!

I tried the G400 and wasn't super happy with it either.  Lost about 10 yards compared to an old 910D3 that I normally play.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:43 PM

Did you get fitted?, here are some options:

Tip the shaft, stock or your Blue
Get a heavier shaft

The G400 has a smaller footprint at 440cc, so you may be swinging it faster creating a bit more spin causing the ballooning, I am only speculating tho...plus I might be a bit biased lol (see sig)...I did demo the G400 once it came out, the Ping rep sent me the LST head only, but the results were not as consistent as my G, it was longer and the feel is definitely different "softer" and "muted" which I like, but the accuracy was not as tight, so I sent back the G400 LST head and kept the G LST, I am using the "stock" Alta shaft (blue and black) I was fitted to, it is 44.5" tipped 1" at 65g in weight...hope this helps a bit.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 03:00 PM

I am sorta of feeling the same about it, hit it again last night just cant feel the hype I initially felt, so sad!
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:02 PM

View PostBoricua Golf, on 14 November 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Did you get fitted?, here are some options:

Tip the shaft, stock or your Blue
Get a heavier shaft

The G400 has a smaller footprint at 440cc, so you may be swinging it faster creating a bit more spin causing the ballooning, I am only speculating tho...plus I might be a bit biased lol (see sig)...I did demo the G400 once it came out, the Ping rep sent me the LST head only, but the results were not as consistent as my G, it was longer and the feel is definitely different "softer" and "muted" which I like, but the accuracy was not as tight, so I sent back the G400 LST head and kept the G LST, I am using the "stock" Alta shaft (blue and black) I was fitted to, it is 44.5" tipped 1" at 65g in weight...hope this helps a bit.

Thank you for your reply, I just purchased a lightly used Diamana Blueboard S+ 60 gonna give that a try as it is more of mid launch shaft.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:02 PM

I had two G400s a regular 9 degree and a 8.5 LS and both of them were really bad... Put a Tour AD BB 7x and a Atmos Black 7x in both and they went WAY to high for my liking... not to mention I had the adapter set at the lowest loft possible on both... Went back to my 2017 M1 440 with a PX HZRDUS Black 70 6.5 and hitting bombs again!
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:34 PM

I am hitting my g400 lst and it  is a fairway finding machine.  Iím hitting it far enough but did lose a little distance with the head and copper 70x compared to my ab tp with a speeder evo.   I put a ping tip on an 80tx Black x torsion  which should be a low spinning launching beast.  

I rather be in the fairway more than 15 yards longer.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:02 PM

I have had the Ping G30, G and now the G400. in my experience each generation launched slightly higher than the previous. I have played the Ping Tour 65 shaft in G and now the G400. It is a low -mid launch shaft and offers very good feel in my opinion (knowing feel is subjective). My fitter recommended that I tip the Tour 65, when order however I decided not to ant that time, and  I am considering it but have not done it an I am not sure I ever will just because I am satisfied with the current results and I felt the shaft tipped lost some of the feel I like about the shaft.

I am seeing on average about 5 yards additional distance over my prior G, and I have seen a slight improvement in accuracy, but in reality the G and now the G400 are point and shoot drivers. I have had prior post on the Ping G30 and G drivers so I wont go into great detail on my fitting results, but my swing speed is pretty consistently hovering between 102 and 104 with a transition on the smooth side. My side by side monitor results show that I picked up about 1 mph with the G400 on average. On the course I would say the five yards is pretty consistent, however I am seeing parts of the fairway that I had not hit in the past on some of my longest drives.  I feel very fortunate that the Ping standard shaft work well for me. I know playing partners that ended up with much more expensive upgraded shafts to get the driver to perform for them, but all  are very happy as am I with the total performance of the G400s.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:16 PM

The stock shafts launch high. A HZRDUS Yellow or even Black (quite stout) will bring it down. Also have seen a Rogue 70 X in one and it was much more penetrating.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM

What is your AOA??  I had a G400 fitting a few months ago for curiosity sakes and tried out a 10.5 SFT version and had an average spin of 1700 but my AOA was -2.  Because of that, there's no ballooning nor loss of distance for me (except for a slight pull to the left since it's SFT).  My SS is identical to yours.  Shaft used is irrelevant as I think spin is greatly influenced by the head and technique.

Edited by cgasucks, 14 November 2017 - 11:41 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:24 PM

View Postcgasucks, on 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

What is your AOA??  I had a G400 fitting a few months ago for curiosity sakes and tried out a 10.5 SFT version and had an average spin of 1700 but my AOA was -2.  Because of that, there's no ballooning nor loss of distance for me (except for a slight pull to the left since it's SFT).  My SS is identical to yours.  Shaft used is irrelevant as I think spin is greatly influenced by the head and technique.

Attack angle is -.80 and spin is 1890.  Similar numbers to the G30 I'm replacing with the Prolaunch

Edited by bchilders87, 15 November 2017 - 01:24 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:27 PM

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I am hitting my g400 lst and it  is a fairway finding machine.  I'm hitting it far enough but did lose a little distance with the head and copper 70x compared to my ab tp with a speeder evo.   I put a ping tip on an 80tx Black x torsion  which should be a low spinning launching beast.  

I rather be in the fairway more than 15 yards longer.

I agree with that, shorter and fairway is always better.  But 30 yards shorter is a little much
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:53 PM

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

View Postcgasucks, on 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

What is your AOA??  I had a G400 fitting a few months ago for curiosity sakes and tried out a 10.5 SFT version and had an average spin of 1700 but my AOA was -2.  Because of that, there's no ballooning nor loss of distance for me (except for a slight pull to the left since it's SFT).  My SS is identical to yours.  Shaft used is irrelevant as I think spin is greatly influenced by the head and technique.

Attack angle is -.80 and spin is 1890.  Similar numbers to the G30 I'm replacing with the Prolaunch

That's odd...with your AOA and those spin numbers it will be very rare to see the ball balloon.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:56 PM

Tried for weeks with all 3 heads and every offered shaft plus 3 other premium shafts I owned. Could not get one combination to be better than my old G30 or G LST using the same shafts. G400 LST Might have been marginally better dispersion, but was anywhere from 5 yards to 10 yards shorter than the older G drivers depending on shaft. Traded the G400 LST in after 3 weeks of looking for a functional combination. Too bad, liked the whole idea, but didnít work for me.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:59 PM

JP just assumes the G series Pings are going to be too high spinning for JP. At 90mph swing, it would seem to be a perfect fit for you according to marketing?

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:15 PM

View Postcgasucks, on 15 November 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

View Postcgasucks, on 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

What is your AOA??  I had a G400 fitting a few months ago for curiosity sakes and tried out a 10.5 SFT version and had an average spin of 1700 but my AOA was -2.  Because of that, there's no ballooning nor loss of distance for me (except for a slight pull to the left since it's SFT).  My SS is identical to yours.  Shaft used is irrelevant as I think spin is greatly influenced by the head and technique.

Attack angle is -.80 and spin is 1890.  Similar numbers to the G30 I'm replacing with the Prolaunch

That's odd...with your AOA and those spin numbers it will be very rare to see the ball balloon.

I'll take it one step further and say that you won't see the ball balloon with spin < 2000.  So, if your spin really is that low and your drives aren't going anywhere, you're probably launching it too low with too little spin for your swing speed and the ball isn't staying in the air for very long.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:39 PM

I am about a 14 handicap and my swing speed is in the mid 90's and for the past few years I've been playing a Cobra Fly Z with a Matrix White Tie 55X4 in stiff flex and have been hitting it pretty decently for me. Averaging in the 240's with a slight fade.  I felt it was time for an upgrade and heard that with the G400 being only 440 cc's it increased your swing speed so I felt that was what I wanted.  So I went and got fitted for one early in October.

Having the slight fade I thought I would be going with the SFT but at the fitting I also tried the standard G400.  The shafts they had me try were the Alta CB55 in regular and stiff, the Ping Tour 65 in regular and stiff, the Ping Tour 75 in regular and the Aldila X Torsion Copper, not sure what flex as I immediately didn't like it.  While I was a little overwhelmed by all the numbers they were throwing at me what was best numbers wise and feel wise both was the standard G400 with the Tour 65 in regular.

Having just got the club about two weeks ago and being in Minnesota I haven't had a chance to play any rounds but have gotten to the range a few times.  Hitting my Fly Z and the G400 side by side I still have the fade with the Fly Z and I hit the G400 straight, even sometimes a small draw.  And just using my laser rangefinder I am averaging 10 to 15 yards farther with the G400, and it feels great.

I'm happy I got fitted for the G400 and feel I made the right decision.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:49 PM

I think overall the G400 in the long run is going to be great love the feel and sound but the distance has been slightly off IMO, but I am in Cleveland so only played a couple of times due to weather.  I loved it first time and 2nd and 3rd have been so, so.  Ballooning issues have been my main concern.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 03:33 PM

View Postgrochol17, on 15 November 2017 - 02:15 PM, said:

View Postcgasucks, on 15 November 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

View Postcgasucks, on 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

What is your AOA??  I had a G400 fitting a few months ago for curiosity sakes and tried out a 10.5 SFT version and had an average spin of 1700 but my AOA was -2.  Because of that, there's no ballooning nor loss of distance for me (except for a slight pull to the left since it's SFT).  My SS is identical to yours.  Shaft used is irrelevant as I think spin is greatly influenced by the head and technique.

Attack angle is -.80 and spin is 1890.  Similar numbers to the G30 I'm replacing with the Prolaunch

That's odd...with your AOA and those spin numbers it will be very rare to see the ball balloon.

I'll take it one step further and say that you won't see the ball balloon with spin < 2000.  So, if your spin really is that low and your drives aren't going anywhere, you're probably launching it too low with too little spin for your swing speed and the ball isn't staying in the air for very long.

+1. If your spin is below 2000 you need to have a fairly high swing speed AND launch or the ball won't go anywhere. It would seem impossible that what you are seeing is actually ballooning with a spin rate below 2000. I have a negative A of A, about 2 degrees down, and the effect of that is it increases spin, but it does not balloon. And I have learned you can play with some swings producing too much spin and still get good shots, but too little spin is worse -- it makes the ball flight die and is also hard to control.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:39 PM

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

View Postbluejeeprubi, on 14 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I am hitting my g400 lst and it  is a fairway finding machine.  I'm hitting it far enough but did lose a little distance with the head and copper 70x compared to my ab tp with a speeder evo.   I put a ping tip on an 80tx Black x torsion  which should be a low spinning launching beast.  

I rather be in the fairway more than 15 yards longer.

I agree with that, shorter and fairway is always better.  But 30 yards shorter is a little much

I agree 30 is a lot to give up.  I honestly believe the only reason I actually lost distance was going from 45.5 to 44.5 in length with a higher launching shaft.  Agree with the others that sub 2000 spin wonít balloon.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:49 PM

I'm going to a simulator tomorrow (as it is 40 and raining in Ky) we will see what kind of spin it gives me tomorrow.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 06:12 PM

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

I'm going to a simulator tomorrow (as it is 40 and raining in Ky) we will see what kind of spin it gives me tomorrow.

I suggest you stay away from the big box store simulators and go to an independent fitter with a real launch monitor (I prefer Trackman myself) for accurate results.

Here's what you should aim for when you go there..

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 06:45 PM

View Postcgasucks, on 15 November 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

I'm going to a simulator tomorrow (as it is 40 and raining in Ky) we will see what kind of spin it gives me tomorrow.

I suggest you stay away from the big box store simulators and go to an independent fitter with a real launch monitor (I prefer Trackman myself) for accurate results.

Here's what you should aim for when you go there..

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Going to a Simulator with trackman, thanks for the advice greatly appreciated!
PING G400 MAX 9.5* FUJIKURA PRO
PING G400 17* FUJIKURA PRO
PING G400 19*
PING G400 22*
MIZUNO JPX 919 HOT METAL 5-GW NIPPON TOUR MODUS
TITLEIST SM7 54*
TITLEIST SM7 58*
SCOTTY CAMERON STUDIO SELECT NEWPORT 2
PING HOOFER
SRIXON SOFT FEEL

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:57 AM

View PostdmeeksDC, on 14 November 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

The stock shafts launch high. A HZRDUS Yellow or even Black (quite stout) will bring it down. Also have seen a Rogue 70 X in one and it was much more penetrating.

i havent tried one with a stock shaft, i went for a fitting and was fit for a hzrdus yellow 76g 6.5 in the 8.5 ls tec. the ball speed was good 184-185mph, launch good too, flight was nice, but i found the spin quite low. It was 2000ish at best and some were 1500! Great machine numbers.

I happened across a g400 9 deg with the same shaft (hzrdus yellow 6.5 76g) at 44.5" playing length and its an absolute fairway finder. It still feels hot off the face, very forgiving and still seems quite long. Not as long as I hit the LS (prob the inc spin and shorter shaft) but I will happily sacrifice a few yards to find more fairways
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:32 AM

View Postbchilders87, on 14 November 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Hey guys,  I just recently picked up a G400 SFT Driver, coming from a G30 10.5 played down to 10* standard version with a Graffloy pro launch blue 65 S shaft my swing speed is right around 90-92 handicap is a 13.8.  I installed my Prolaunch in the G400 at standard 10* setting, I'm having alot of trouble with a ballooning ball ( very straight though ) with little no to roll out costing me 30ish yards of distance I lofted the head down and still having same trouble.... Is the G400 a higher launching head then the G30? Should I look at another shaft option? Any advice is greatly appreciated!

The G400 launched higher than the G for me.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:38 AM

View Postgrochol17, on 15 November 2017 - 02:15 PM, said:

View Postcgasucks, on 15 November 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View Postbchilders87, on 15 November 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

View Postcgasucks, on 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

What is your AOA??  I had a G400 fitting a few months ago for curiosity sakes and tried out a 10.5 SFT version and had an average spin of 1700 but my AOA was -2.  Because of that, there's no ballooning nor loss of distance for me (except for a slight pull to the left since it's SFT).  My SS is identical to yours.  Shaft used is irrelevant as I think spin is greatly influenced by the head and technique.

Attack angle is -.80 and spin is 1890.  Similar numbers to the G30 I'm replacing with the Prolaunch

That's odd...with your AOA and those spin numbers it will be very rare to see the ball balloon.

I'll take it one step further and say that you won't see the ball balloon with spin < 2000.  So, if your spin really is that low and your drives aren't going anywhere, you're probably launching it too low with too little spin for your swing speed and the ball isn't staying in the air for very long.

10-4, 1700 with that swing speed is too low. Loosing out on a lot of carry distsnce.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:07 PM

Went to the simulator 18 Launch angle 2600 spin swing speed average of 90.8
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PING G400 17* FUJIKURA PRO
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:12 PM

View Postbchilders87, on 16 November 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

Went to the simulator 18 Launch angle 2600 spin swing speed average of 90.8

What was your ball speed?
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 03:24 PM

Really didnít pay attention I want to say around 120-125
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:45 PM

For a 90 mph clubhead speed you should be getting 135 mph ball speed on perfect contact (a 1.5 smash factor).  Regardless, your launch and spin are both pretty good for either a 125 mph or 135 mph ball speed... based on the flighscope trajectory optimizer, your launch and spin would give you a carry distance of 227 yds (135 mph ball speed) or 204 yds (125 mph ball speed).  Both of these are only a yard or two off of max carry for those ball speeds.  So, if you are in fact losing 30 yards, your launch conditions are apparently not the problem... either you're not making very good contact with the G 400 (causing the low ball speed) or there might be something wrong with your driver.  

Have you hit yours against an identical one at a golf shop to see if they give the same results?

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Titleist 915 F, 14.25*, Speeder VC 8.2 Tour Spec X
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Mizuno MP 25, 4&5 iron, DG X100 SSx1
Mizuno MP 5, 6-PW, DG X100 SSx1
Titleist Vokey Spin Milled CC, 53* & 58* (DG S300)
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