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Poll: Distance Poll (236 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you feel about the distances that the pros now hit the ball?

  1. I love it. Let it rip! (117 votes [49.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.58%

  2. Dial it back. Things are getting silly out there. (98 votes [41.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.53%

  3. Other - see my reply below for details. (21 votes [8.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.90%

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#1 Medic

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 12:07 PM

Lots of discussions on here about the subject. Let's see how everyone votes on the matter.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 04:16 PM

I love it. I'm not short and my occasional flush hit that is downwind and downhill is pretty cool though to see. It goes as far as they are hitting it. But that's a 1/10 scenario. I've never ripped one 300 upwind and uphill. I've got some in the 280 range where I hit a tight draw that fit the fairway perfectly. Their consistent distance is amazing to see. How anyone can average 300+ is amazing to me. Ill stop short of saying that I'll no longer watch golf if the ball or equipment is dialed back. I will say it'll be a crying shame. There are already constraints put on the equipment. Why add more? What's the point?

Say they dial everything back 10%. You think in ten years that tour guys won't evolve? Watch a LD comp. those guys have 140-150 mph swings. There's a reason why they don't play on tour. Athletic isn't it. More of those guys will play on tour if things are dialed back. More guys that can swing like that will be on tour if things are dialed back.

Personally I'd rather watch a tournament where guys are hitting a 9i on an uphill/upwind 476 yard par 4 then to watch them play it like me. That'd be a drive, long iron or hybrid, a chip most likely, and 2 putts. I'd rather see a 320 yard launch, high spinning 9i approach to 15ft, and a birdie attempt.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 07:32 PM

I like seeing long irons hit into greens. But I also don't want anything dialed back.  That's like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.  Let em play now, but I also really don't care to see them hitting it substantially farther. Increases will happen, but let them be small and slow.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 07:53 PM

I read in a golf magazine a year or so ago that many venues cut and roll the fairways so the fans see these prodigious drives...apparently it makes for good TV. I remember watching a rain soaked event a couple of years ago. The average drive was in the 275 yard range.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 07:58 PM

 Sean2, on 05 November 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

I read in a golf magazine a year or so ago that many venues cut and roll the fairways so the fans see these prodigious drives...apparently it makes for good TV.

Your average golf observer loves seeing gorillas pound it out there 325 yards, and they also love hitting the ball as far as possible.  There will be no rollback.


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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:00 PM

Grow the rough, narrow in the fairways and let the boys play.  Make distance a risk/reward decision.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:00 PM

 PGArox, on 05 November 2017 - 07:58 PM, said:

 Sean2, on 05 November 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

I read in a golf magazine a year or so ago that many venues cut and roll the fairways so the fans see these prodigious drives...apparently it makes for good TV.

Your average golf observer loves seeing gorillas pound it out there 325 yards, and they also love hitting the ball as far as possible.  There will be no rollback.

I agree.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:07 PM

 sdandrea, on 05 November 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

Grow the rough, narrow in the fairways and let the boys play.  Make distance a risk/reward decision.

Sorry, but that is just not going to happen at most of your regular TOUR stops.  They won't go to all that trouble for four days a year.

Big championships like The PLAYERS, or tournaments where a guy like Jack Nicklaus has so much say (The Memorial) might be willing to invest the time and energy, but it won't be happening otherwise.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:21 PM

What is really amazing to me, having played Disney's Magnolia the week of a tour event, is how incredibly fast the greens are. I could not hold them. Period. And forget about missing a putt short - no such thing.

Which, to me, really points something out about their (tour pro) game versus ours; they can spin the ball and hold the greens. Add to this that I am hitting a 7 when they are hitting a PW and it all makes sense just how what those opposed to the distance are really talking about. I get it fellas - it's more than just 300 plus drives. It has a trickle down effect on everything else.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 12:05 AM

I voted let it rip! We hear about the best bombers but what about the bombers
that don't win..............and there's a lot of them.

C'mon..........Kevin Kisner made the President's Cup team on points....he beat
out a lot of guys that hit it further then he does. Distance is only an advantage
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:21 AM

Long driving is a skill so if you are able to hit it straight and far, then you should be rewarded. The problem is that, on a lot of courses, there isn't enough punishment for taking on the risk. Part of that reason is that on a lot of classic courses, the average hitter can drive it over the trouble now. It shouldn't be easier to play from 30 yard offline, 160 out as middle of the fairway as 190 out.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 04:29 AM

I enjoy it but I also enjoy pizza but don't have one every night because I know that it is bad for me.

In all seriousness, it is awesome watching guys crush it, I wish that I could get within 25 yards of them but in the long run, I do worry about the impact the ever increasing distances will have.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 06:53 AM

For 98% of the golfers in the world this is purely academic as once a course gets over about 6500 yards its too long for their game.
As for the pros, they all play the same course so leave it the way it is.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 07:00 AM

 Medic, on 05 November 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

What is really amazing to me, having played Disney's Magnolia the week of a tour event, is how incredibly fast the greens are. I could not hold them. Period. And forget about missing a putt short - no such thing.

Which, to me, really points something out about their (tour pro) game versus ours; they can spin the ball and hold the greens. Add to this that I am hitting a 7 when they are hitting a PW and it all makes sense just how what those opposed to the distance are really talking about. I get it fellas - it's more than just 300 plus drives. It has a trickle down effect on everything else.


Yes.  This is the crux of a lot of the gripe.  

Longest hitters out there have a bag that consists of more wedge use than anything.  They aren't going to hit a 7 iron up into anything other than long long par3 or a par 5.  

That didn't used to be.  This is why we see more wedges used now.  It makes senses to leave a gap at the top somewhere and no gap at the bottom.  

It also eliminates seeing anyone play like tiger or stenson.  No more pounding a course to death with a 2 iron and 6-7 irons into par 4s.  Stenson isn't keeping up as well with 3 wood as tees are moved back.  Now before someone says " you can't change the ball for two players " yes. I am not saying that.  What I am saying is that it's evidence of the game changing.  

Isn't just the bombers either. How many times have we seen Jordan Spieth hit 12 or so specialty wedges into greens a round?  A ton of times.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 07:03 AM

 Dave230, on 06 November 2017 - 02:21 AM, said:

Long driving is a skill so if you are able to hit it straight and far, then you should be rewarded. The problem is that, on a lot of courses, there isn't enough punishment for taking on the risk. Part of that reason is that on a lot of classic courses, the average hitter can drive it over the trouble now. It shouldn't be easier to play from 30 yard offline, 160 out as middle of the fairway as 190 out.

Rolling it back will still reward the straight long hitter.  Just will require an iron instead of wedge into par 4s.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 07:23 AM

I like it. I would like to see courses narrowed, not by rough, but by more severe doglegs, so that, if you hit that narrow gap, you’re rewarded, but if you don’t, the gates of hell come into play.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 08:09 AM

its garbage. no strategy, no shot making, just hit it miles and then a wedge. dull, dull, dull
Just hit the damn ball.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 08:13 AM

I say let it rip tater chip!!!!!, girls dig the long ball!!!!
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 08:20 AM

 sdandrea, on 05 November 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

Grow the rough, narrow in the fairways and let the boys play.  Make distance a risk/reward decision.

Totally agree!
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:01 AM

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I say let it rip tater chip!!!!!, girls dig the long ball!!!!

Quick, name me 3 girls that seriously give a flip whether you hit the ball a long way.

Hot chicks that hang out at pro tournaments aren't interested in how far those guys hit the ball. They are hoping to get noticed by a rich, young millionaire.

Come to think of it, when I come home after a round, my wife and teenage daughter couldn't care less if I shot 67 or 97. (Other than my attitude.)

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:06 AM

 mwkbmw, on 06 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I say let it rip tater chip!!!!!, girls dig the long ball!!!!

Quick, name me 3 girls that seriously give a flip whether you hit the ball a long way.

Hot chicks that hang out at pro tournaments aren't interested in how far those guys hit the ball. They are hoping to get noticed by a rich, young millionaire.

Come to think of it, when I come home after a round, my wife and teenage daughter couldn't care less if I shot 67 or 97. (Other than my attitude.)

Why the hostility?!?!?!?!, I understand your point, but if you didn't like what I posted you could ignore it, but ok, I follow, you can't take a little joke...and I can, however, see the attitude part...It is really not that serious!!!!, have a great day!!!
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:17 AM

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

 mwkbmw, on 06 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I say let it rip tater chip!!!!!, girls dig the long ball!!!!

Quick, name me 3 girls that seriously give a flip whether you hit the ball a long way.

Hot chicks that hang out at pro tournaments aren't interested in how far those guys hit the ball. They are hoping to get noticed by a rich, young millionaire.

Come to think of it, when I come home after a round, my wife and teenage daughter couldn't care less if I shot 67 or 97. (Other than my attitude.)

Why the hostility?!?!?!?!, I understand your point, but if you didn't like what I posted you could ignore it, but ok, I follow, you can't take a little joke...and I can, however, see the attitude part...It is really not that serious!!!!, have a great day!!!

No hostility intended. Just poking a little fun at you. I have just never heard of anyone in my entire life that has hooked up because they hit the ball far. Not that it has never happened. I'm sure it has.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:26 AM

 mwkbmw, on 06 November 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

 mwkbmw, on 06 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I say let it rip tater chip!!!!!, girls dig the long ball!!!!

Quick, name me 3 girls that seriously give a flip whether you hit the ball a long way.

Hot chicks that hang out at pro tournaments aren't interested in how far those guys hit the ball. They are hoping to get noticed by a rich, young millionaire.

Come to think of it, when I come home after a round, my wife and teenage daughter couldn't care less if I shot 67 or 97. (Other than my attitude.)

Why the hostility?!?!?!?!, I understand your point, but if you didn't like what I posted you could ignore it, but ok, I follow, you can't take a little joke...and I can, however, see the attitude part...It is really not that serious!!!!, have a great day!!!

No hostility intended. Just poking a little fun at you. I have just never heard of anyone in my entire life that has hooked up because they hit the ball far. Not that it has never happened. I'm sure it has.

Somewhere.

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Actually, the truth is...  GUYS dig the long ball!

Oh I follow, no hard feeling what so ever, but you should come to Fredericksburg and play in a local tournament, most guys that hit it long have a crowd following and at the end the ladies gravitate that way, not a crazy number maybe 2 or 3 (all friends of course) and ask for selfies, etc...lol
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:30 AM

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

 mwkbmw, on 06 November 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

 mwkbmw, on 06 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

 Boricua Golf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I say let it rip tater chip!!!!!, girls dig the long ball!!!!

Quick, name me 3 girls that seriously give a flip whether you hit the ball a long way.

Hot chicks that hang out at pro tournaments aren't interested in how far those guys hit the ball. They are hoping to get noticed by a rich, young millionaire.

Come to think of it, when I come home after a round, my wife and teenage daughter couldn't care less if I shot 67 or 97. (Other than my attitude.)

Why the hostility?!?!?!?!, I understand your point, but if you didn't like what I posted you could ignore it, but ok, I follow, you can't take a little joke...and I can, however, see the attitude part...It is really not that serious!!!!, have a great day!!!

No hostility intended. Just poking a little fun at you. I have just never heard of anyone in my entire life that has hooked up because they hit the ball far. Not that it has never happened. I'm sure it has.

Somewhere.

Once.





Actually, the truth is...  GUYS dig the long ball!

Oh I follow, no hard feeling what so ever, but you should come to Fredericksburg and play in a local tournament, most guys that hit it long have a crowd following and at the end the ladies gravitate that way, not a crazy number maybe 2 or 3 (all friends of course) and ask for selfies, etc...lol

I appreciate the invitation, but unfortunately for me, I am old enough now that "long balls" has an entirely different meaning.  :(
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:37 AM

I would like to see specs developed for a second type of ball that could be played by elite golfers on older, shorter courses.  If Augusta National would elect to hold their tournament with balls made to those specs - hurray, they wouldn't have to dick with the course again.  If the USGA elected to hold a US Open at Merion again using such ball specs - hurray, I would like to see another US Open at Merion without super high rough and tricked out conditions.

This is an idea whose time has come.

Roll back the COR of driver and fairway woods, as well.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 11:10 AM

Change the ball?  Toughen the courses?  Horse Hockey!

None of that will make a difference.  Take away all the Trackman devices.  Ban all forms of exercise and strength training and add in all manner of bad food and drink.  In short order these guys will be hitting it like us and the whole ball thing goes away.

In the 70's they changed the speed limit to 55.  How did that work out for everyone?
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 12:13 PM

 Socrates, on 06 November 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

Change the ball?  Toughen the courses?  Horse Hockey!

None of that will make a difference.  Take away all the Trackman devices.  Ban all forms of exercise and strength training and add in all manner of bad food and drink.  In short order these guys will be hitting it like us and the whole ball thing goes away.

In the 70's they changed the speed limit to 55.  How did that work out for everyone?

A huge increase in speeding ticket revenue!?
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:18 PM

Yup.  And after a bit of compliance, virtually everyone ignored it and went about the business of making cars faster and more powerful.  Same will happen whatever they try with the ball.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:36 PM

 Socrates, on 06 November 2017 - 01:18 PM, said:

Yup.  And after a bit of compliance, virtually everyone ignored it and went about the business of making cars faster and more powerful.  Same will happen whatever they try with the ball.

Goes to show just how stupid the population is, in general. How often do people with 600hp cars actually get to utilize that power? Most cars now have single exhaust manifolds and the tail pipes are split after the muffler and separated into what appears to be dual exhaust. It sells, because most people are ignorant and fooled by what it "looks" like. Several years ago, when the 4WD SUV craze began, I noticed all the "yuppie" wives driving them. I asked my wife, "Are they building shopping malls on the tops of mountains, now?" (She rolled her eyes, and yes, I eventually bought her one.)

Just think of all the new golf equipment to be sold that is "optimized for the Tour ball". Taylormade clubs will hit the new ball 17 yards further each iteration, same as usual. And the sheeple will buy them.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:56 PM

I voted "Other".

Would like to see the elements play a larger role and would like to see tech play a lesser one.

Shot making, ball control and strategy become prominent again and sheer power less.Risk/reward quotient much higher

. A ball with a tighter COG in the center and clubs with less MOI will do all this at near zero cost to anyone but those playing for a check. Distance really does not suffer but the talent to utilize it is harder to come by. FIR & GIR percentages may go down till talent adjusts but once they do the game will be better than ever to watch and aspire to.


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