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#31 KYMAR

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 06:21 PM

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 06:33 PM

View PostShilgy, on 05 November 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

Oh FFS, yeah there I said it. When Tommy Bolt did it it was celebrated. Now it's "oh the children". For those of you slamming Tiger let's ignore that fact that other players do the same. That is beside the point.
But.... Please ffs do not ever ever ever be hypocritical and swear around your children. EVER.  They'll learn it from you a hell of a lot faster than any athlete they are watching. And make sure you never ever ever let them watch television or listen to music. Most TV shows have much worse in every episode than you'll hear from any golfer. Music the same way.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 06:51 PM

View Postbscinstnct, on 05 November 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Rofl.

99% of every shot TW had ever hit has been televised and he has 50x the number of fans following.

Show *all* the players with that coverage and youd hear 200 Fbombs per round.

And if you mic up any kid over the age of 12, youd hear even more ; )

How much is Steinberg paying you for all this pro tiger PR you spew? retainer or weekly? ;)

Edited by lowheel, 05 November 2017 - 11:08 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2017 - 06:54 PM

View Postlowheel, on 05 November 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

View Postbscinstnct, on 05 November 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Rofl.

99% of every shot TW had ever hit has been televised and he has 50x the number of fans following.

Show *all* the players with that coverage and youd hear 200 Fbombs per round.

And if you mic up any kid over the age of 12, youd hear even more ; )

How much is Greenberg paying you for all this pro tiger PR you spew? retainer or weekly? ;)


It`s so weird how TW calls Greenberg `Steiny`
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 07:00 PM

View Postlowheel, on 05 November 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

View Postbscinstnct, on 05 November 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Rofl.

99% of every shot TW had ever hit has been televised and he has 50x the number of fans following.

Show *all* the players with that coverage and youd hear 200 Fbombs per round.

And if you mic up any kid over the age of 12, youd hear even more ; )

How much is Greenberg paying you for all this pro tiger PR you spew? retainer or weekly? ;)

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:20 PM

View PostVindog, on 05 November 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:


Hey man, I'm just glad you didn't say Bubba first :drinks:

Iíll give Bubba credit, I donít think Iíve seen him abuse clubs. Like most children, he prefers to abuse his teddy.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:56 PM

View PostDON SVO, on 05 November 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

View PostVindog, on 05 November 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

Hey man, I'm just glad you didn't say Bubba first :drinks:

I'll give Bubba credit, I don't think I've seen him abuse clubs. Like most children, he prefers to abuse his teddy.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 08:57 PM

The putter had it comin', and  was dealt with accordingly.  End of story.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 09:05 PM

I feel embarrassed for them usually.  Can't help but laugh though.

A race car driver or professional fighter gets angry and looks like a jerk, but he legitimately could have died.  The golfer nearly made a double bogey.  Come on man.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:57 PM

I've taught my kids no matter what language they hear around their friends, on tv, radio  or golf tournaments it doesn't get repeated.   I've never heard my kids now 21 and 18 drop an f bomb, but I don't believe in raising snowflakes or participation trophies either.


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Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:08 PM

View PostKYMAR, on 05 November 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

View Postlowheel, on 05 November 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

View Postbscinstnct, on 05 November 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Rofl.

99% of every shot TW had ever hit has been televised and he has 50x the number of fans following.

Show *all* the players with that coverage and youd hear 200 Fbombs per round.

And if you mic up any kid over the age of 12, youd hear even more ; )

How much is Greenberg paying you for all this pro tiger PR you spew? retainer or weekly? ;)


It`s so weird how TW calls Greenberg `Steiny`

Apple is antisemetic obviously because autocorrect put that name there!

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:10 PM

View Postnew2g0lf, on 05 November 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

I've taught my kids no matter what language they hear around their friends, on tv, radio  or golf tournaments it doesn't get repeated.   I've never heard my kids now 21 and 18 drop an f bomb, but I don't believe in raising snowflakes or participation trophies either.

Well youre also describing house rules and decorum which is normal.That doesnt cause snowflakes

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:15 AM

Maybe the game of golf should add in referee's and penalty flags. Put one official on the tee box, one in the fairway, one on the green.

Minus 5 yards for sighing, minus 10 yards for cursing, minus 15 for club tossing. Anything else is an ejection.

In all seriousness, I only care if they just stand there for five minutes trying to figure out what happened. Move on.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:34 AM

the only truly justified club toss I've seen over the years                                                 :cheesy:

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:43 AM

View PostBlackDiamondPar5, on 05 November 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:

I dont mind a little emotion and anger. One of my favorites was Charley Hoffman tossing his putter in the pond at the Players after 3 putting from a ridiculous close range. Love the Hoff.

It's on YouTube but I'm too lazy to link right now.

The best part was how non-chalant that little toss was...flick of the wrist and its gone lol


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:44 AM

I take on board all the comments about where kids can hear swearing and see bad behaviour. Its everywhere.
It may be an old fashioned notion but that was what set golf aside. In golf it was NOT acceptable. You kept your feelings in check, even when the golf gods plotted against you. You are on honour to call a foul against yourself if needed, even in the woods where no one can see.
Its a game that should be played with honour, integrity and manners. If we continue to do that then maybe the kids will see that its possible to compete without swearing and throwing tantrums, even in a game that has never been "fair".
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:47 AM

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View Postcodyking760, on 04 November 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

I love seeing players emotional responses during golf tournaments, good or bad. I believe it really reflects how hard these guys work day in and day out to get where they are now. Like Kevin Chapel throwing his putter into the water during the 3rd round of the shriners hospital for children open and then having to putt with his SW for the remainder of the round. Yes its a tantrum, but its also an act of passion. And that's what this game is for all of us right? We love it just as much as they do and its nice to see they care.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 04:59 AM

Sadly, you become a better golfer by being robotic.  Play boring, correct golf, and it's totally the best round of your life.  Take stupid risks, throw clubs in lakes, probably your worst round.  So people are really right.  Golf is boring.  Good golf absolutely bores people to death.  Yet it's the hardest to do.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 07:35 AM

All I know is that. If I was at a tournament and a tour pro threw a club in the water. Life jacket or not. I'm jumping into the water to get me some. It's game on from there.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 08:55 AM

View PostLondoner, on 06 November 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

I take on board all the comments about where kids can hear swearing and see bad behaviour. Its everywhere.
It may be an old fashioned notion but that was what set golf aside. In golf it was NOT acceptable. You kept your feelings in check, even when the golf gods plotted against you. You are on honour to call a foul against yourself if needed, even in the woods where no one can see.
Its a game that should be played with honour, integrity and manners. If we continue to do that then maybe the kids will see that its possible to compete without swearing and throwing tantrums, even in a game that has never been "fair".

Well stated and a great ideal to strive for.

I think professional golf is changing, becoming more mainstream.  It was once a game only played by well dressed gentleman we're now seeing it attract people from different backgrounds due to the opportunities it offers in terms of college scholarships and prize money.  We're seeing athletes that could have participated in other sports choose golf.   All these new golfers aren't learning the game at fancy country clubs where proper etiquette is required and as a result we're seeing and hearing more raw emotion.  

As golf becomes more mainstream we will likely see more displays of emotion, some fans like it, as it makes the players seem less robotic but the downside is we may hear some words we'd prefer not be said in front of children.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 09:10 AM

View PostLondoner, on 05 November 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

View Postbscinstnct, on 05 November 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Rofl.

99% of every shot TW had ever hit has been televised and he has 50x the number of fans following.

Show *all* the players with that coverage and youd hear 200 Fbombs per round.

And if you mic up any kid over the age of 12, youd hear even more ; )
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 09:15 AM

Do you guys really believe that there was not swearing on tour in the 30's, 40's and up until now? Really?
  There have been folks from different backgrounds playing professional golf forever. Not all were Bobby Jones. Snead, Nelson and Hogan certainly did not grow up privileged. Pros were kept out of clubhouses as they were too low class.
  But really we are not talking class. We're talking swearing. Does it seem more common today? It seems to be on television. But the reality is it's always been there and always will be. Most swear words go back centuries so it's not a recent phenomenon.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 09:28 AM

View Postnew2g0lf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 06 November 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

I take on board all the comments about where kids can hear swearing and see bad behaviour. Its everywhere.
It may be an old fashioned notion but that was what set golf aside. In golf it was NOT acceptable. You kept your feelings in check, even when the golf gods plotted against you. You are on honour to call a foul against yourself if needed, even in the woods where no one can see.
Its a game that should be played with honour, integrity and manners. If we continue to do that then maybe the kids will see that its possible to compete without swearing and throwing tantrums, even in a game that has never been "fair".

Well stated and a great ideal to strive for.

I think professional golf is changing, becoming more mainstream.  It was once a game only played by well dressed gentleman we're now seeing it attract people from different backgrounds due to the opportunities it offers in terms of college scholarships and prize money.  We're seeing athletes that could have participated in other sports choose golf.   All these new golfers aren't learning the game at fancy country clubs where proper etiquette is required and as a result we're seeing and hearing more raw emotion.  

As golf becomes more mainstream we will likely see more displays of emotion, some fans like it, as it makes the players seem less robotic but the downside is we may hear some words we'd prefer not be said in front of children.

Guess you haven't been to country clubs at any time over the last 30 years. The proper etiquette that you speak of doesn't exist. People at Country Clubs use the same language. They have tempers. They throw their clubs. They break their clubs.
They just happen to do it with more expensive shirts and drive home, cursing, in more expensive cars.

We now have more golf coverage than we've ever had. That includes phone videos posted on social media. That's why you're seeing the cursing and the club throwing (in addition to the stress of playing for $1m). Players have been cursing as long as golf has been around.

If you want to focus on the positive. For every video of someone cursing, there are multiple videos of people working out, eating healthy etc. Those guys who grew up with etiquette? They spent their post round time drinking, smoking and chasing women. Nothing wrong w that. But if someone is offended by the word "f***" then I assume they don't want their kids seeing someone drinking whiskey, smoking cigarettes and getting handsy w the waitress.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 09:38 AM

View Postnochct1, on 06 November 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

View Postnew2g0lf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 06 November 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

I take on board all the comments about where kids can hear swearing and see bad behaviour. Its everywhere.
It may be an old fashioned notion but that was what set golf aside. In golf it was NOT acceptable. You kept your feelings in check, even when the golf gods plotted against you. You are on honour to call a foul against yourself if needed, even in the woods where no one can see.
Its a game that should be played with honour, integrity and manners. If we continue to do that then maybe the kids will see that its possible to compete without swearing and throwing tantrums, even in a game that has never been "fair".

Well stated and a great ideal to strive for.

I think professional golf is changing, becoming more mainstream.  It was once a game only played by well dressed gentleman we're now seeing it attract people from different backgrounds due to the opportunities it offers in terms of college scholarships and prize money.  We're seeing athletes that could have participated in other sports choose golf.   All these new golfers aren't learning the game at fancy country clubs where proper etiquette is required and as a result we're seeing and hearing more raw emotion.  

As golf becomes more mainstream we will likely see more displays of emotion, some fans like it, as it makes the players seem less robotic but the downside is we may hear some words we'd prefer not be said in front of children.

Guess you haven't been to country clubs at any time over the last 30 years. The proper etiquette that you speak of doesn't exist. People at Country Clubs use the same language. They have tempers. They throw their clubs. They break their clubs.
They just happen to do it with more expensive shirts and drive home, cursing, in more expensive cars.

We now have more golf coverage than we've ever had. That includes phone videos posted on social media. That's why you're seeing the cursing and the club throwing (in addition to the stress of playing for $1m). Players have been cursing as long as golf has been around.

If you want to focus on the positive. For every video of someone cursing, there are multiple videos of people working out, eating healthy etc. Those guys who grew up with etiquette? They spent their post round time drinking, smoking and chasing women. Nothing wrong w that. But if someone is offended by the word "f***" then I assume they don't want their kids seeing someone drinking whiskey, smoking cigarettes and getting handsy w the waitress.

I think it depends on the club you belong to, I've belonged to clubs where loud cussing and club throwing gets your privileges suspended for a few weeks and can result in expulsion from the club.  

I wasn't clear enough in my post, I'm in no way saying that wealthy people don't cuss, but as golf has become more mainstream we're seeing more golfers playing the game that haven't learned or don't wish to follow the proper etiquette of the game that the poster I was responding mentioned.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:31 AM

View Postnew2g0lf, on 06 November 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

View Postnochct1, on 06 November 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

View Postnew2g0lf, on 06 November 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 06 November 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

I take on board all the comments about where kids can hear swearing and see bad behaviour. Its everywhere.
It may be an old fashioned notion but that was what set golf aside. In golf it was NOT acceptable. You kept your feelings in check, even when the golf gods plotted against you. You are on honour to call a foul against yourself if needed, even in the woods where no one can see.
Its a game that should be played with honour, integrity and manners. If we continue to do that then maybe the kids will see that its possible to compete without swearing and throwing tantrums, even in a game that has never been "fair".

Well stated and a great ideal to strive for.

I think professional golf is changing, becoming more mainstream.  It was once a game only played by well dressed gentleman we're now seeing it attract people from different backgrounds due to the opportunities it offers in terms of college scholarships and prize money.  We're seeing athletes that could have participated in other sports choose golf.   All these new golfers aren't learning the game at fancy country clubs where proper etiquette is required and as a result we're seeing and hearing more raw emotion.  

As golf becomes more mainstream we will likely see more displays of emotion, some fans like it, as it makes the players seem less robotic but the downside is we may hear some words we'd prefer not be said in front of children.

Guess you haven't been to country clubs at any time over the last 30 years. The proper etiquette that you speak of doesn't exist. People at Country Clubs use the same language. They have tempers. They throw their clubs. They break their clubs.
They just happen to do it with more expensive shirts and drive home, cursing, in more expensive cars.

We now have more golf coverage than we've ever had. That includes phone videos posted on social media. That's why you're seeing the cursing and the club throwing (in addition to the stress of playing for $1m). Players have been cursing as long as golf has been around.

If you want to focus on the positive. For every video of someone cursing, there are multiple videos of people working out, eating healthy etc. Those guys who grew up with etiquette? They spent their post round time drinking, smoking and chasing women. Nothing wrong w that. But if someone is offended by the word "f***" then I assume they don't want their kids seeing someone drinking whiskey, smoking cigarettes and getting handsy w the waitress.

I think it depends on the club you belong to, I've belonged to clubs where loud cussing and club throwing gets your privileges suspended for a few weeks and can result in expulsion from the club.  

I wasn't clear enough in my post, I'm in no way saying that wealthy people don't cuss, but as golf has become more mainstream we're seeing more golfers playing the game that haven't learned or don't wish to follow the proper etiquette of the game that the poster I was responding mentioned.

Two things are going to happen:

1. use it as a teachable moment and explain to your child that you feel it's inappropriate behavior and show them the right way to act.

2.  if it effects your child and you don't discuss it with, they're probably going to bigger problems then hearing the "f" word

Other thoughts:

-Charles Barkley-profession athlete's are not role models

-kinda the same situation with tennis

-everyone always has this illusion about the past that things were so proper and clean, which wasn't the case.  

-not to compare (because something is always worse), but if your child is watching GOLF, and you're upset about the "f" word, that's probably like #1,000 on the list of worst things they can be doing.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 11:10 AM

View PostLondoner, on 06 November 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

I take on board all the comments about where kids can hear swearing and see bad behaviour. Its everywhere.
It may be an old fashioned notion but that was what set golf aside. In golf it was NOT acceptable. You kept your feelings in check, even when the golf gods plotted against you. You are on honour to call a foul against yourself if needed, even in the woods where no one can see.
Its a game that should be played with honour, integrity and manners. If we continue to do that then maybe the kids will see that its possible to compete without swearing and throwing tantrums, even in a game that has never been "fair".

Good manners and sportsmanship are required in *every* sport, not just golf....

At the *amateur level*

Be it football, soccer, swimming, whatever, cursing and poor sportsmanship is not tolerated in school age, college, or even higher level amateur competition.

But these are pros.They aren't playing for a club trophy or a few bucks. It's their livelihood. They miss a putt or a shot and they could be kissing 100k or more goodbye. Poof.

Imagine you are at work and you mess up an email and they tell you you aren't getting paid for the month? You'd curse like a sailor ; )

And how often do you even see this in golf? It's not like you see this every day...



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 11:20 AM

Hey, I'm not asking for much here. All I want is to be rich, powerful and famous, but I don't want all that social responsibility baggage that comes with it, ok?

Edited by Dpavs, 06 November 2017 - 11:21 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 12:30 PM

I'll take cursing and club tossing over slow play anyday...that offends me as a golfer.

I'd imagine most pros try and keep this type of behavior in check - doesn't the PGA fine them?

Of courses, maybe if the PGA made fines public, we would see the monetary consequences of poor behavior....now that would be something every child would understand!

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 12:45 PM

I wonder if Tiger fans ,in all their shameless excuse making glory, are pro unhinged club tossing because their allegiance demands it or if they themselves acted that way pre-1997 and it's in part what fuels said devotion.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 12:59 PM

View PostKYMAR, on 06 November 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

I wonder if Tiger fans ,in all their shameless excuse making glory, are pro unhinged club tossing because their allegiance demands it or if they themselves acted that way pre-1997 and it's in part what fuels said devotion.

I do the drop of disgust

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