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#61 psygolf

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:24 AM

Biggest tech advance in equipment was the GBB...I was a caddie at the time and had to move 20-30 yards further down the fairway on fore-caddie holes for the respective player.  Supply/Demand drove it to $500 then down to $350.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM

View Postchisag, on 13 November 2017 - 10:47 AM, said:

View PostKCCO, on 11 November 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

It always comes down to justifying the price of PXG regardless of post...is anyone ever looking at equipment on the JDM front? A set of Epon, Seven, Honma, etc....are all in same price range, some more. Comparing these to what you see in a box store in the states doesn't really make sense as they are targeted at a market that most shopping at golf galaxy won't justify the price, therefore don't carry. But even Titleist (Vokey) has some $400 wedges, and most OEM's popular in states (TMAG, Titleist, Mizzy, even Cleveland) have a JDM line of clubs about double the price of what you get from a big box store in the states.
Just seems many have a grudge with Mr.Parson's and not the clubs themselves.

... I can't speak for everyone but think the above describes more than a few. I don't really have any opinion on what clubs golfers play or how much they pay for them. Capitalism makes it possible to buy clubs at Costco or fit by PXG and anything in-between. I have a $799 shaft in my driver so cost isn't a criteria. None of that changes the fact that Parsons commercials are the tackiest golf commercials I have ever seen and I simply would to want to be associated with his products. Those commercials conjure up the exact kind of person I detest on a golf course ... loud, obnoxious, dropping cigar ashes on the green, talking on their cell phone while others wait, driving their carts right next to the green, etc. This of course may not describe a PXG player at all, but that is what the commercials make me think of. Not that I care what others think of my club choice, as someone commenting on the clubs in my bag is extremely rare, just my own personal compass would not allow me to play Parsons clubs. If I was given a free set of custom fit PXG's I would just sell them and buy something I would enjoy playing.


I get what youre saying and I know from GEA forum youre a person that knows equipment.  I frankly am not a fan of the commericals especially putting Paige Spirinac in a commerical which is dumbest reason anyone would spend that much for clubs.  I do have a set of 0311s bought the heads for a great price.  They do feel really solid compared to my Srixon 765s or CF16s.  Am I saying that theyre worth double what someone would pay for those?  No but Id guess most technologically advanced iron out there.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 09:02 AM

Someone needs to come out with a "blind taste test" of all the top irons out there including PXG.  Cover all clubs in tape or something.  Same shafts and balls.  I'd love to see an unbiased review of something like this.  I know youtube has a ton of vids of englishman evaluating different clubs side by side but I question their opinions.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 09:57 AM

Iíd expect irons with a sweet spot the size of Alaska in 2018. I mean, theyíve already got Texas covered. Whatís bigger than Texas?

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 10:25 AM

View PostBCULAW, on 02 December 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

I'd expect irons with a sweet spot the size of Alaska in 2018. I mean, they've already got Texas covered. What's bigger than Texas?

... This is WRX and iron forgiveness is forbidden. They need to come out with a new iron that has a sweet spot the size of one PXG weight screw, you know so we don't swing like the Tasmanian Devil, which is how forgiving irons evidently makes everyone swing.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 01:30 PM

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Someone needs to come out with a "blind taste test" of all the top irons out there including PXG.  Cover all clubs in tape or something.  Same shafts and balls.  I'd love to see an unbiased review of something like this.  I know youtube has a ton of vids of englishman evaluating different clubs side by side but I question their opinions.
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 01:54 PM

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View PostJgarn117, on 05 November 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

I've never understood the naysayers and blowhards who bash PXG unconditionally. I have been a lifelong Titleist loyalist and can honestly say that after trying a PXG hybrid it not only lived up to the hype, but exceeded my expecatations.

I'm not certain of the other offerings as this is the only club I own and have hit from PXG but as the old adage goes, "don't knock it until you try it".
It's not that the product isn't good or bad it's more about the owner being a major blowhard and rubbing people the wrong way.
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 02:21 PM

View Postmtnbiker5, on 02 December 2017 - 09:02 AM, said:

Someone needs to come out with a "blind taste test" of all the top irons out there including PXG.  Cover all clubs in tape or something.  Same shafts and balls.  I'd love to see an unbiased review of something like this.  I know youtube has a ton of vids of englishman evaluating different clubs side by side but I question their opinions.
when every iron has a different look at address, you can never truly camouflage them.  Itís not hard for a gear head to look down and identify AP2 vs Apex vs PXG vs Ping solely by looking at them at address.

There is no such thing as an unbiased review if a human is involved. We all have subconscious biases with anything we do.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 02:57 PM

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View Postmtnbiker5, on 02 December 2017 - 09:02 AM, said:

Someone needs to come out with a "blind taste test" of all the top irons out there including PXG.  Cover all clubs in tape or something.  Same shafts and balls.  I'd love to see an unbiased review of something like this.  I know youtube has a ton of vids of englishman evaluating different clubs side by side but I question their opinions.
when every iron has a different look at address, you can never truly camouflage them.  It's not hard for a gear head to look down and identify AP2 vs Apex vs PXG vs Ping solely by looking at them at address.

There is no such thing as an unbiased review if a human is involved. We all have subconscious biases with anything we do.

... And conscious bias as well. One person looks at the PXG screws and thinks they look ridiculous and the next think they look awesome. I have posted this before but remember my first set of MP33's and wishing they had a thinner top line (I was younger then) and talked to the Mizuno Rep that told me Darren Clark had custom MP33's made with a thicker top line as he preferred a "chunky look" at address. We both loved MP33's but would be giving opposite reviews of each others clubs because of our personal bias.
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Posted 02 December 2017 - 03:25 PM

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View PostJgarn117, on 05 November 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

The resale market has tanked, the jig is up Bob.

Golf companies are in the business of selling new clubs and couldn't care less about the resale market. Hell PXG has yet to lower MAP pricing on any of their clubs. The 0311 iron from 2015 (three years) is still in the line and has only gone up in price from $300 to now $350. The only ones who care about "resale market" are the club whores on sites like this.

I think that is the way to do it, don't lower your prices so your used clubs hold branding value somewhat and don't come out with a new club every 6 months.  I like the way pxg is doing business, and no I don't own any pxg and actually i haven't even had time to try them lol, but someday I will.

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 08:00 AM

I'm curious what innovations PXG will have in 2018, if any. Seems like other OEMs are catching up with the tech as evidenced by the litigation between TMag and PXG. While I have no plans to purchase Parson's products, I still think he is a relevant player in the game. He is willing to supply the capital to push technology and innovation, and leaves the other manufacturers trying to figure out a way to do it more economically.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 07:30 PM

If they innovate anything it would be the first time. There is no push on technology or innovation as everything in his clubs has been done before. Other manufacturers are just copying his copying as several of them have done similar things to their clubs long before Parsons came waddling along with his ridiculous hype and lies about innovation.

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 10:45 AM

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If they innovate anything it would be the first time. There is no push on technology or innovation as everything in his clubs has been done before. Other manufacturers are just copying his copying as several of them have done similar things to their clubs long before Parsons came waddling along with his ridiculous hype and lies about innovation.

Did parsons hurt you? It seems odd that you find your way into pxg threads to bash them and him. It's not just once, you have to do it multiple times, rehashing the same things you said before.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course...  But I'm guessing most have a hard time taking your posts seriously when you are one of the top posters (quantity) in a pxg thread, just to bash the product.

Do you go into Scotty Cameron, Miura or JDM posts and do this kind of thing?

I tested almost every popular players iron (and some "players" GI irons) and the PXG were my favorite in terms of forgiveness, feel, and even a little boost to distance. I don't go around telling everyone to buy pxg, in fact I'll often recommend other irons. But, if asked I will tell people about my experience with pxg. The other guys I know that own pxg are so quiet about it you would have to directly ask then what irons they are playing for them to mention pxg. Most golfers don't recognize anything but the most common brands anyway, so I have a hard time believing people buy pxg for the brand recognition.

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 11:05 AM

+1.  Thanks for summarizing and saving me some keystrokes.

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If they innovate anything it would be the first time. There is no push on technology or innovation as everything in his clubs has been done before. Other manufacturers are just copying his copying as several of them have done similar things to their clubs long before Parsons came waddling along with his ridiculous hype and lies about innovation.

Did parsons hurt you? It seems odd that you find your way into pxg threads to bash them and him. It's not just once, you have to do it multiple times, rehashing the same things you said before.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course...  But I'm guessing most have a hard time taking your posts seriously when you are the top posters (quantity) in a pxg thread, just to bash the product.

Do you go into Scotty Cameron, Miura or JDM posts and do this kind of thing?

I tested almost every popular players iron (and some "players" GI irons) and the PXG were my favorite in terms of forgiveness, feel, and even a little boost to distance. I don't go around telling everyone to buy pxg, in fact I'll often recommend other irons. But, if asked I will tell people about my experience with pxg. The other guys I know that own pxg are so quiet about it you would have to directly ask then what irons they are playing for then to mention pxg. Most golfers don't recognize anything but the most common brands anyway, so I have a hard time believing people buy pxg for the brand recognition.

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:38 PM

But none of those keystrokes were about any point I made.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 08:13 PM

Pxg right now clearly a botique golf company.   Like buying a new bike.  Yeah you can walk into a bike shop and buy any cannondale, trek or specialized on the rack thatís mass produced.  Or, you can invest more money and buy a hand made titanium bike from moots or Erickson that will feel so amazingly smooth to ride.  Thatís the same w pxg.  Expensive yes but I will say I noticed a big difference in feel.  unquestionable    Iíve demod these clubs head to head against Mizuno JPX, mp 18.  And 718 ap2.   Distance was very close.  Got a little more w pxg but for me itís the feel and forgiveness   Iím buying the 0311ís irons for now and im really excited.  I love the whole vibe of the company as well.  Definitely positive.  Look at Taylormade.  Theyíre coming out w m3 and m4 in January.  Callaway Rogue as well.  What happened to the m1 and m2?   How about those people who just bought those clubs.  Now theyíre clubs are soon to be outdated and worthless.  Iím tired of this in the golf industry.  All these companies just throwing out crap every year.  Almost as bad as ski industry which is worse.  If parsons in his arrogant way says they wonít come out w new product unless itís better than the old, thatís refreshing.  Hate to say it but the golf equipment companies need a swift kick in the a** and parsons is just the guy to do it.

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 09:11 PM

Customization! They gave us gold! They’ll just increase the bling (pricing)!

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 09:44 PM

View PostJgarn117, on 05 November 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

I've never understood the naysayers and blowhards who bash PXG unconditionally. I have been a lifelong Titleist loyalist and can honestly say that after trying a PXG hybrid it not only lived up to the hype, but exceeded my expecatations.

I'm not certain of the other offerings as this is the only club I own and have hit from PXG but as the old adage goes, "don't knock it until you try it".

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:35 PM

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 02:10 AM

View Postcvvorst, on 05 December 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

View Postbuckeyefl, on 04 December 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

If they innovate anything it would be the first time. There is no push on technology or innovation as everything in his clubs has been done before. Other manufacturers are just copying his copying as several of them have done similar things to their clubs long before Parsons came waddling along with his ridiculous hype and lies about innovation.

Did parsons hurt you? It seems odd that you find your way into pxg threads to bash them and him. It's not just once, you have to do it multiple times, rehashing the same things you said before.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course...  But I'm guessing most have a hard time taking your posts seriously when you are one of the top posters (quantity) in a pxg thread, just to bash the product.

Do you go into Scotty Cameron, Miura or JDM posts and do this kind of thing?

I tested almost every popular players iron (and some "players" GI irons) and the PXG were my favorite in terms of forgiveness, feel, and even a little boost to distance. I don't go around telling everyone to buy pxg, in fact I'll often recommend other irons. But, if asked I will tell people about my experience with pxg. The other guys I know that own pxg are so quiet about it you would have to directly ask then what irons they are playing for them to mention pxg. Most golfers don't recognize anything but the most common brands anyway, so I have a hard time believing people buy pxg for the brand recognition.

Agreed Mr VanderVorst most of the PXG bashers just plain can't afford their products or don't get the tech in the irons.  I mean how many blade designs are that forgiving?   And TM p790 don't even remotely compare.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:19 AM

I bet if PXGs pricing was on par w everyone else every single basher out there would have pxg in the bag and love them.  I swear I cannot find one, not one person who has tried a pxg iron not swear that they love them.  Drop da mic...

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:31 AM

View Postmtnbiker5, on 21 December 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

I bet if PXGs pricing was on par w everyone else every single basher out there would have pxg in the bag and love them.  I swear I cannot find one, not one person who has tried a pxg iron not swear that they love them.  Drop da mic...

I tried them. I can afford several sets of them. I didnít find any improvement in my testing of them. Didnít like the look or feel of them either. To each their own, I guess.
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:36 AM

View Postgreen.tea, on 21 December 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

View Postmtnbiker5, on 21 December 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

I bet if PXGs pricing was on par w everyone else every single basher out there would have pxg in the bag and love them.  I swear I cannot find one, not one person who has tried a pxg iron not swear that they love them.  Drop da mic...

I tried them. I can afford several sets of them. I didnít find any improvement in my testing of them. Didnít like the look or feel of them either. To each their own, I guess.
Each their own as w everything. Personally Iíd never put a ping iron in my bag but I donít bash people for doing so. They just donít fit me
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:38 AM

Irons didn't work for me. But the driver, who most people bash, it's by far, the best I ever tried. The hybrid is great too.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:43 AM

View PostEHolm, on 21 December 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

View Postgreen.tea, on 21 December 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

View Postmtnbiker5, on 21 December 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

I bet if PXGs pricing was on par w everyone else every single basher out there would have pxg in the bag and love them.  I swear I cannot find one, not one person who has tried a pxg iron not swear that they love them.  Drop da mic...

I tried them. I can afford several sets of them. I didnít find any improvement in my testing of them. Didnít like the look or feel of them either. To each their own, I guess.
Each their own as w everything. Personally Iíd never put a ping iron in my bag but I donít bash people for doing so. They just donít fit me

Fair point. IMO the bashing comes from this attitude that anyone who doesnít like the PXG clubs is just too poor to afford them or too dumb to understand why they are the greatest clubs ever made. Posts like that are low-hanging fruit and are going to attract negative responses.

But I digress, back to the topic at hand...

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:09 AM

View Postssfranny, on 21 December 2017 - 02:10 AM, said:

Agreed Mr VanderVorst most of the PXG bashers just plain can't afford their products or don't get the tech in the irons.  I mean how many blade designs are that forgiving?   And TM p790 don't even remotely compare.

... One thing to remember, as many put PXG bashing all in one basket. There is nobody to there in the golf biz like Bob Parsons. I have no opinion on PXG clubs or anyone that uses them. If you like them and they work for you, why would I have a negative opinion about that? But like Jimmy Johns, that make s good sandwich, I have an extremely negative opinion of the owner and in a capitalist society we get to vote with our wallets. I am one that is a perfect target for PXG irons. I love equipment, I can afford them and they are in the forgiving players category where my irons are purchased. But Parsons commercials represents everything in golf I dislike. Loud, obnoxious, full of itself and condescending. I would not play PXG irons if they were given to me for free. So I think it is fair to say, there are more than a few that have a negative opinion of Parsons, not his clubs.
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:54 AM

View Postmtnbiker5, on 21 December 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

I bet if PXGs pricing was on par w everyone else every single basher out there would have pxg in the bag and love them.  I swear I cannot find one, not one person who has tried a pxg iron not swear that they love them.  Drop da mic...

And yet there are quite a few on this site. Pick up da mic playa.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:57 AM

View Postssfranny, on 21 December 2017 - 02:10 AM, said:

View Postcvvorst, on 05 December 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

View Postbuckeyefl, on 04 December 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

If they innovate anything it would be the first time. There is no push on technology or innovation as everything in his clubs has been done before. Other manufacturers are just copying his copying as several of them have done similar things to their clubs long before Parsons came waddling along with his ridiculous hype and lies about innovation.

Did parsons hurt you? It seems odd that you find your way into pxg threads to bash them and him. It's not just once, you have to do it multiple times, rehashing the same things you said before.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course...  But I'm guessing most have a hard time taking your posts seriously when you are one of the top posters (quantity) in a pxg thread, just to bash the product.

Do you go into Scotty Cameron, Miura or JDM posts and do this kind of thing?

I tested almost every popular players iron (and some "players" GI irons) and the PXG were my favorite in terms of forgiveness, feel, and even a little boost to distance. I don't go around telling everyone to buy pxg, in fact I'll often recommend other irons. But, if asked I will tell people about my experience with pxg. The other guys I know that own pxg are so quiet about it you would have to directly ask then what irons they are playing for them to mention pxg. Most golfers don't recognize anything but the most common brands anyway, so I have a hard time believing people buy pxg for the brand recognition.

Agreed Mr VanderVorst most of the PXG bashers just plain can't afford their products or don't get the tech in the irons.  I mean how many blade designs are that forgiving?   And TM p790 don't even remotely compare.

No, thats not it but that attitude doesnt help the image at all.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 04:57 PM

View PostBarracuda, on 21 December 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:

Irons didn't work for me. But the driver, who most people bash, it's by far, the best I ever tried. The hybrid is great too.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 05:43 PM

View Posthurricanes7, on 21 December 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

View PostBarracuda, on 21 December 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:

Irons didn't work for me. But the driver, who most people bash, it's by far, the best I ever tried. The hybrid is great too.

which hybrid and how do u like it
Hybrid is the X version with the HZRDUS shaft. Only hybrid that outperformed my old nickent.

Driver is the first generation 0811. I tried the X, but for me, the 0811 is a beast.


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