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Posted 11 November 2017 - 12:18 PM

View Postmallrat, on 10 November 2017 - 02:15 AM, said:

I love the par 3ís at the course I work at. From the blues they measure 170, 110, 160, 205. They have a bailout area that allows you a very good shot at par except the 110 which if you miss you are almost easily looking at bogey; itís jokingly called the shortest par 5 ever. All look different and require different clubs no matter the weather or wind. One points due N, one due E, one due S and one due W.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 05:19 PM

Is that their distances?

I wish

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 06:38 PM

The par 3s at my club are typically (dependent on pin location and wind):

1st: 6i-8i
2nd: 7i-pw
3rd: 9i-gw
4th: 7i-9i

So it could be 3 8-irons in a round. But that would be a coincidence of pins and wind. The next day could be a 6,9,P,7 and have no 8irons. Solid variety and no super long par 3s; which is fine with me. Hard to hit 4i :-/

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 06:49 PM

My home club's par 3's are

162 level with water left and behind hole
245 uphill with OB 20-30 yards both sides of narrow green. Yesterday, it played at 259 yards into a club wind. Hit a driver to front part of green which is a very good shot for me. State golf Assc. moves it up to 200 yds box when they hosts tourney at my club.
200 downhill with OB right 10 yds right of green
177 downhill to shallow green.

Edited by br61, 11 November 2017 - 06:52 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:08 PM

View Postbr61, on 11 November 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

My home club's par 3's are

162 level with water left and behind hole
245 uphill with OB 20-30 yards both sides of narrow green. Yesterday, it played at 259 yards into a club wind. Hit a driver to front part of green which is a very good shot for me. State golf Assc. moves it up to 200 yds box when they hosts tourney at my club.
200 downhill with OB right 10 yds right of green
177 downhill to shallow green.
245 uphill seems a but harsh to me i estimate 90% of our members could never reach it.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 10:18 AM

View PostLondoner, on 11 November 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

View Postbr61, on 11 November 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

My home club's par 3's are

162 level with water left and behind hole
245 uphill with OB 20-30 yards both sides of narrow green. Yesterday, it played at 259 yards into a club wind. Hit a driver to front part of green which is a very good shot for me. State golf Assc. moves it up to 200 yds box when they hosts tourney at my club.
200 downhill with OB right 10 yds right of green
177 downhill to shallow green.
245 uphill seems a but harsh to me i estimate 90% of our members could never reach it.

Agreed, I couldn't reach it few times whenever it's cold with headwind. I never liked that hole. Brings little bit of publicity to the course as one of hardest par 3 hole around.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:17 AM

200 yard part three are stupid for the average joe. They can't  even get their with a driver. Makes for slow play.  185 should be the longest tee for the average golfer.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:52 AM

View PostKevinx, on 13 November 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

200 yard part three are stupid for the average joe. They can't  even get their with a driver. Makes for slow play.  185 should be the longest tee for the average golfer.

200 yard par three is a mid iron for Almost everyone I play with thatís under 45. There should be par 3s 200+. Not sure what your ďaverage playerĒ has to do with this as the discussion as the question from the OP had to do with comp tees, not the forward tees.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:41 AM

Short par 3s are the best, every course needs one.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 01:43 PM

View Postbr61, on 12 November 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 11 November 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

View Postbr61, on 11 November 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

My home club's par 3's are

162 level with water left and behind hole
245 uphill with OB 20-30 yards both sides of narrow green. Yesterday, it played at 259 yards into a club wind. Hit a driver to front part of green which is a very good shot for me. State golf Assc. moves it up to 200 yds box when they hosts tourney at my club.
200 downhill with OB right 10 yds right of green
177 downhill to shallow green.
245 uphill seems a but harsh to me i estimate 90% of our members could never reach it.

Agreed, I couldn't reach it few times whenever it's cold with headwind. I never liked that hole. Brings little bit of publicity to the course as one of hardest par 3 hole around.

I maintain that it doesn't take a great deal of skill or insight to design a hard hole.

This one definitely sounds like amateur hour.


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:33 PM

View Postklebs01, on 13 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

View PostKevinx, on 13 November 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

200 yard part three are stupid for the average joe. They can't  even get their with a driver. Makes for slow play.  185 should be the longest tee for the average golfer.

200 yard par three is a mid iron for Almost everyone I play with that's under 45. There should be par 3s 200+. Not sure what your "average player" has to do with this as the discussion as the question from the OP had to do with comp tees, not the forward tees.

I didn't know Milwaukee produced such great players. Only kidding.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:09 PM

View PostLondoner, on 03 November 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

We have 4 par 3s. From the summer comp. Tees, accounting for uphill slope they play 200, 170, 205, 165. All well bunkered on both sides and in front. No running on to any of them. Whats your view, is this easy, about right or tough? Its a high course, often with variable, prevailing strong winds.

These distance are what they play with no wind.
In my judgement these are tough if you take into consideration the average or even above average golfer. I think most courses should have at least one par 3 under 150 yards with the remaining 3 ranging from 150 yards to no more than 190 yards depending on prevailing winds, elevation and size of greens. Bunkering also comes into play when considering the length of your par 3s. Just one man's opinion.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:12 PM

The number of tee boxes on each  can provide sufficient variety of length so as to avoid having to lock into specific yardages. It just takes common sense on the part of the golfer to choose the correct tee box to hit from. That applies to every golf hole on the course.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:25 PM

View Postvpd, on 13 November 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

The number of tee boxes on each  can provide sufficient variety of length so as to avoid having to lock into specific yardages. It just takes common sense on the part of the golfer to choose the correct tee box to hit from. That applies to every golf hole on the course.

This is an overly simplistic view of the game and architecture. On a Par 3 in particular, the design of the green complex intended to have a long iron hit into it is (/should be) fundamentally different than one intended to be hit into by a short iron or wedge. A green that was designed to play from 200 yards is probably a pretty lousy hole from 150 yards...and vice versa.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:22 PM

Lack of variety in par 3s is my number one criticism of most courses.

Can't tell you how many times all 4 will play close to the same number—totally unacceptable.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:41 PM

My home course, with listed scorecard distance and handicap from the blue tees (6,317yds):
3 - 147 (17) - Over water. Plays anywhere from a 125-155 depending on where the pin is and where on the extra long tee box we are that day. Trees to the right of the green if you push.
5- 195 (15) - Downhill about two clubs and over water.  Plays anywhere from 165 to 190 depending on the pin position and wind that day.  Water in front and to the right of green.
13 - 165 (18) - Downhill, but wind usually comes into play.  Plays anywhere from 135 to 165.
15 - 235 (12) - Over water to about 120yds (more for visual)  Plays anywhere from 200 to the listed 235yds.   It's a road hole, so anything left is going to be OB and it's tree lined on the right to about 180yds followed by a shared pond with the previous hole that goes from about 190 to the back of the green on the right.  

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:26 PM

Golf courses can be so different that it's hard to lay down much of a rule for how long each of a course's par 3s "should" be. I think a good way to think about it is this: do the par 3s help round out a diverse set of approach shot demands for the course? Do they help make it so you end up hitting every club in your bag by the end of the round, or do they duplicate other approach shots on the par 4s and par 5s?

In general, though, the more variety you have, the better. There aren't enough courses with a 115-yard par 3 and a 255-yarder, IMO. I don't get why some golfers believe that having to hit a wood on a par 3 is somehow unacceptable. It's especially hilarious when PGA Tour players whine about it.

I also tend to like courses with five or even six par 3s.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:31 PM

I played a course a few years ago. From the white tees there were 220, 210, and 190 yard par 3's. If the average golfer drives the ball around 215 yards...

I think there should be 1 long one, 1 short one, and 2 in between.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:28 PM

Played on a course this past weekend with an interesting mix.

145, 165, 178, and 195.

And somehow all 4 were against the wind.

On the shortest one, our last one for the day, it had just barely started raining and that short hole really became a huge challenge.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:44 PM

I don’t mind if they are less than 220 yards. Anything longer just seems unfair.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:45 AM

View PostTim Gavrich, on 14 November 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

Golf courses can be so different that it's hard to lay down much of a rule for how long each of a course's par 3s "should" be. I think a good way to think about it is this: do the par 3s help round out a diverse set of approach shot demands for the course? Do they help make it so you end up hitting every club in your bag by the end of the round, or do they duplicate other approach shots on the par 4s and par 5s?

In general, though, the more variety you have, the better. There aren't enough courses with a 115-yard par 3 and a 255-yarder, IMO. I don't get why some golfers believe that having to hit a wood on a par 3 is somehow unacceptable. It's especially hilarious when PGA Tour players whine about it.

I also tend to like courses with five or even six par 3s.


There are 2 courses around here that are 6 par 3ís, 6 par 4ís and 6 par 5ís. I kinda wish more courses were designed that way. Always find them pretty fun to play.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 07:52 AM

Probably the biggest downfall of our home course. From the back tees distances are roughly 200, 190, 200, 195. It's not uncommon to hit the same club four times. From the men's tees they all move up about 10 yards with the exception of the last one which then is in the 150-160 range. So at least one hole is a little different.

Our public actually has a pretty good set of holes. First one is a slightly uphill shot to a midsized, open green. Men's tee is usually somewhere between 175-190, but the back is 240 (but you can run it on, just don't hit the cart path on the right or it will kick OB).  2nd is about 145/175 from the two tees. Third is to a narrow green that is much wider than deep with lake and bunker edging up to the right half of the green. 140/160. Really good little hole.
Last one is a bit uphill with a big national monument looming in the background. Very picturesque. 175/200 on this one.
This course actually does a much better job of moving the markers around to create different yardages (although I'm sure they only do it because they probably get 10X the amount of round s there and they have to move them due to the tee box being torn up).

Hadn't really thought about the difference in the two course's par threes until this thread.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 08:19 AM

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 15 November 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

Probably the biggest downfall of our home course. From the back tees distances are roughly 200, 190, 200, 195. It's not uncommon to hit the same club four times. From the men's tees they all move up about 10 yards with the exception of the last one which then is in the 150-160 range. So at least one hole is a little different.

Our public actually has a pretty good set of holes. First one is a slightly uphill shot to a midsized, open green. Men's tee is usually somewhere between 175-190, but the back is 240 (but you can run it on, just don't hit the cart path on the right or it will kick OB).  2nd is about 145/175 from the two tees. Third is to a narrow green that is much wider than deep with lake and bunker edging up to the right half of the green. 140/160. Really good little hole.
Last one is a bit uphill with a big national monument looming in the background. Very picturesque. 175/200 on this one.
This course actually does a much better job of moving the markers around to create different yardages (although I'm sure they only do it because they probably get 10X the amount of round s there and they have to move them due to the tee box being torn up).

Hadn't really thought about the difference in the two course's par threes until this thread.
Another huge factor, which some have touched on here, is where the par 3s sit in the routing of your course. A lot of the classic architects took pains to have the par 3s all point in different directions so that the golfer had to deal with different winds for each.

I'd encourage people to look at their home courses on Google Maps to see where the par 3s point. In all likelihood, there's some duplication of direction. If not, though, chances are you're playing a gem of a course.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 08:54 AM

View PostTim Gavrich, on 15 November 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 15 November 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

Probably the biggest downfall of our home course. From the back tees distances are roughly 200, 190, 200, 195. It's not uncommon to hit the same club four times. From the men's tees they all move up about 10 yards with the exception of the last one which then is in the 150-160 range. So at least one hole is a little different.

Our public actually has a pretty good set of holes. First one is a slightly uphill shot to a midsized, open green. Men's tee is usually somewhere between 175-190, but the back is 240 (but you can run it on, just don't hit the cart path on the right or it will kick OB).  2nd is about 145/175 from the two tees. Third is to a narrow green that is much wider than deep with lake and bunker edging up to the right half of the green. 140/160. Really good little hole.
Last one is a bit uphill with a big national monument looming in the background. Very picturesque. 175/200 on this one.
This course actually does a much better job of moving the markers around to create different yardages (although I'm sure they only do it because they probably get 10X the amount of round s there and they have to move them due to the tee box being torn up).

Hadn't really thought about the difference in the two course's par threes until this thread.
Another huge factor, which some have touched on here, is where the par 3s sit in the routing of your course. A lot of the classic architects took pains to have the par 3s all point in different directions so that the golfer had to deal with different winds for each.

I'd encourage people to look at their home courses on Google Maps to see where the par 3s point. In all likelihood, there's some duplication of direction. If not, though, chances are you're playing a gem of a course.

The first course, they go in three different directions. One is downhill, one slightly uphill and two are flat. So it has a little bit of variety there.

The second course also has three different directions, so not bad there either.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 10:42 AM

maybe a better way to look at your par 3s is to chart what clubs you use for them.   On one of our courses here are my stats (the greens are huge with at least 3 clubs between the front pins and back pins);

#3: most common is 8i.  Range is PW through 6i.

#8: most common is 6i.  Range is 8i through 3H.

#11: most common is 7i.  Range is 9i through 3H.

#17: most common is 6i.  Range is 7i through 5i.

So, I'm hitting anything from PW to 3H on these holes.  Not a bad variety.


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 06:50 PM

My favorite local track is what I would consider a perfect example of a mix of par 3 yardages.

#5 159 Most common club 7 iron Range 8 iron to 6 iron (long is dead so will play to center yardage at most) Into prevailing wind. level to slightly uphill also most severe sloped green on course.

#9 130 Most common club PW(47*) range 52*-9 iron. Small kidney green protected on both sides(prevailing wind is across L-R slightly uphill

#11 194 Most common club 5 iron. Biggest variance here. Range 8 iron to Hybrid. Deep green, slight downhill, and prevailing wind is downwind. If no wind and back pin it is close to 215. Front pin and wind is up 8 iron will get home.  

#15 232 Most common club hybrid. Green is 55 yards deep. Range 4 iron to 3 wood. Downhill, prevailing wind R-L and into players face. Back pin distance measures 278-280. Center of the green is the target as it slopes from Center to back left with green running away from player so anything center right will end up pretty close to a back left pin. 4 iron to front pins.

4 totally different shots, green complexes and 4 totally different prevailing winds.
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14.5 X2 Hot 3 Deep Tour Green
18* X2 Hot Pro Hybrid
RSI TP 4-PW KBS Tour 120
Byron Morgan DH89 Rincon Neck deep mill or Circa 62 No 2
Vokey 52/56/60 SM5/TVDK/TVDVgrind DG S300
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