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Tour Issue Epic Subzero Fairways on CPO?


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#1 callaway.7

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 12:34 PM

I was searching through the Callaway preowned website and saw that all of the epic subzero fairways are labeled as "tour" fairways? Can anybody confirm if that means they are tour issued heads that are now being sold as preowned? Or is this simply some nomenclature for the sub zero fairway I was unaware of?

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 12:56 PM

It appears so -- and when adding the 20% off coupon "gimmie" -- these can get down to around 150-160. Phenomenal deal for a TC Epic.

If it didn't end up being a TC, CPO has a really liberal return policy, and the club could just be sent back.
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 01:00 PM

Weird I Was just looking on CPO the other day at these woods and didn't notice this. Could be left over tour issue stock? Is there any way to tell if it is or isn't when you get your hands on it?
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 01:10 PM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 03 November 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Weird I Was just looking on CPO the other day at these woods and didn't notice this. Could be left over tour issue stock? Is there any way to tell if it is or isn't when you get your hands on it?
I would think the only one could tell if they are tour issued if they have the TC stamp.
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 01:18 PM

View Postcallaway.7, on 03 November 2017 - 01:10 PM, said:

View PostZ1ggy16, on 03 November 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Weird I Was just looking on CPO the other day at these woods and didn't notice this. Could be left over tour issue stock? Is there any way to tell if it is or isn't when you get your hands on it?
I would think the only one could tell if they are tour issued if they have the TC stamp.
Might be worth a buy. CPO Customer Service is really good and it's an easy return if it's not a tour issue.

Now the other question is: Aldila Max or Fuji pro shaft... Both say mid launch and are the same weight(s).

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 02:13 PM

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 03:10 PM

I got my "Tour" Epic subzero fairway that I ordered Tuesday today. It was in immaculate shape, but it's not a tour issued. I called and they said they aren't tour issued, and that's just what they label the subzero as it's a "players club not suited for all players." Still extremely happy with what I got for $83 after the 30% off and trading in an old 915H I had.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:49 PM

View PostAMH58, on 09 November 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

I got my "Tour" Epic subzero fairway that I ordered Tuesday today. It was in immaculate shape, but it's not a tour issued. I called and they said they aren't tour issued, and that's just what they label the subzero as it's a "players club not suited for all players." Still extremely happy with what I got for $83 after the 30% off and trading in an old 915H I had.
Thats a shame it isnt tour issue, but heck, for under 100 bucks, thats a steal regardless.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:34 PM

I received mine today and I was disappointed as well that it wasn't tour issued, yet labeled tour. Regardless of the deal, it reeks of false advertising.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:46 PM

View Postkcsf, on 09 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I received mine today and I was disappointed as well that it wasn't tour issued, yet labeled tour. Regardless of the deal, it reeks of false advertising.

They weren't labeled tour issue, and had stock shafts....I think you had your hopes too high


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:08 PM

Yeah I definitely hoped for a tour issued model. In no way am I disappointed in what I got. It is in phenomenal shape
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 01:53 PM

View Postkcsf, on 09 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I received mine today and I was disappointed as well that it wasn't tour issued, yet labeled tour. Regardless of the deal, it reeks of false advertising.

Tour is not tour Issue. There are plenty of models out there labeled ‘tour’ that are off he shelf. Would have been a nice perk though.
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 02:08 PM

View Postendy, on 10 November 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View Postkcsf, on 09 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I received mine today and I was disappointed as well that it wasn't tour issued, yet labeled tour. Regardless of the deal, it reeks of false advertising.

Tour is not tour Issue. There are plenty of models out there labeled ‘tour’ that are off he shelf. Would have been a nice perk though.

WHAAAAAaAT??  Are you saying my Spalding Tour Editions are not actually, you know, Tour edition?

Yikes is all I can say buying from CPO hoping to get Phil’s frankenwood for 30% off retail. Good lord.

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 02:47 PM

It's kiiiiinnndd of gimmicky advertising/naming though. Calling something 'tour' now a days (should) means that it's either directly off tour, like left over van stock, or that it's a "tour only" type of design and should be specifically used in the name, ie M2 Tour Fairway wood. It's not conventionally been called the Tour Sub Zero fairway wood. It's just been the sub zero (fairway wood). Especially when most of the 'tour' stuff is 13.5*. The CPO website has the 15* sz called Tour, too.

Misleading if you ask me.

But with a 20 or 30% coupon plus any other deal they run, it's not a bad buy.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 01:46 PM

View Postb.helts, on 10 November 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

View Postendy, on 10 November 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View Postkcsf, on 09 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I received mine today and I was disappointed as well that it wasn't tour issued, yet labeled tour. Regardless of the deal, it reeks of false advertising.

Tour is not tour Issue. There are plenty of models out there labeled 'tour' that are off he shelf. Would have been a nice perk though.

WHAAAAAaAT??  Are you saying my Spalding Tour Editions are not actually, you know, Tour edition?

Yikes is all I can say buying from CPO hoping to get Phil's frankenwood for 30% off retail. Good lord.

Your point falls flat as the SubZero's lack the "tour" name on the club, or in their advertising. To Ziggy's point, if it was called SubZero Tour 3wood, then sure, my complaint would be wrong. In this case, Callaway has never described it as "tour" or placed the "tour" script on the club. Advertising it on their CPO site as a Tour 3wood led me to believe it was a TC club. I don't think I was off base in that thought. I have the M2 Tour 3wood and I certainly never thought it was tour issued.

I should've called them to confirm before I bought, and that's on me. The club is staying in my bag though as it's a bomber.

Edited by kcsf, 13 November 2017 - 01:50 PM.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 02:18 PM

View Postkcsf, on 13 November 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

View Postb.helts, on 10 November 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

View Postendy, on 10 November 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View Postkcsf, on 09 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I received mine today and I was disappointed as well that it wasn't tour issued, yet labeled tour. Regardless of the deal, it reeks of false advertising.

Tour is not tour Issue. There are plenty of models out there labeled 'tour' that are off he shelf. Would have been a nice perk though.

WHAAAAAaAT??  Are you saying my Spalding Tour Editions are not actually, you know, Tour edition?

Yikes is all I can say buying from CPO hoping to get Phil's frankenwood for 30% off retail. Good lord.

Your point falls flat as the SubZero's lack the "tour" name on the club, or in their advertising. To Ziggy's point, if it was called SubZero Tour 3wood, then sure, my complaint would be wrong. In this case, Callaway has never described it as "tour" or placed the "tour" script on the club. Advertising it on their CPO site as a Tour 3wood led me to believe it was a TC club. I don't think I was off base in that thought. I have the M2 Tour 3wood and I certainly never thought it was tour issued.

I should've called them to confirm before I bought, and that's on me. The club is staying in my bag though as it's a bomber.

CPO customer service is great, I would just send it back if you felt wronged.

I just received my full order and the clubs came out in phenomenal shape. The only issue was that a hybrid, which was listed as like new, came in with a chip on the crown but the other hybrid came in still in the plastic. A quick call and CPO had another one out the door and they have verified the LN condition and a return label for the other hybrid. The VG condition PM Grind looks like it was hit one time. Love Callaway Preowned.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 02:20 PM

I don't feel wronged, just a bit mislead. It's a great club and staying for a bit until another shiny piece arrives.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 05:54 PM

I was going to pull the trigger when it was $140 and I think a 20% coupon applied. Now they upped all their prices b/c of the BOGO offer going on... but the Epic doesn't even apply. Wtf ? Guess I'll just wait it out til the Rogue comes out and grab one off BST for 60% of what it's listed at now...
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:10 PM

They did not up their prices. The prices you saw on the Epics previously already had the 20% marked down. They just went back to the original price and now you get 30% off. It’s not that hard folks. $147 for a club I just paid $280 plus tax for 2 months ago.
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