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#1 rmack1126

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:56 PM

Everyone has their one wedge that winds up being the workhorse for trying to get up and down. Aside from extremely circumstantial lies such as plugged in the sand, standing in the bunker with the ball in the rough, etc. What is everyone's club of choice and why?

My go to: Ping Glide 2.0 54 deg 12 bounce. Not exactly a common degree for getting up and down (this poll may show otherwise) but I feel the most confident as I can make the ball come out low, medium or high with ease and typically generate enough spin to provide a decent amount of control.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:01 PM

I use a 60* about 90% of the time.
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:17 PM

View PostHot Rod 71, on 01 November 2017 - 08:01 PM, said:

I use a 60* about 90% of the time.

I have a feeling 60 deg and 56 deg are going to be the most common. Any reason you go with the 60 or that's just your confidence club?
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:17 PM

Glide 58es about 90% of the time.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:37 PM

For a 15 hc, I will always take the lowest loft (down to 8i) I can get away with. With that being said, my 54 degree sand wedge gets most of the work.


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:40 PM

Fairway and Rough: 57*

Bunker and Deep Rough: 62*
Driver: Taylormade M2 '17 10.5*; Accura Tour Z Pink, 85 M5 (285, can get one or two to carry 300+ if needed)
Fairway: Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15*; Diamana Blueboard 72x (255)
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:03 PM

It’s a 50/50 split between 64* pm grind and Texas wedge.  I either put higher energy thru the ball or lower, nothing in between.

Plus I spent 6-7 months practicing on the 64* might as well enjoy the benefits.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 07:40 AM

I use a 50* 10* bounce 90% of the time.  I open it quite a bit.  I can go low or high.  The 50 pretty much eliminates the chunk.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 07:57 AM

All "standard" chips I use an 8 iron.

All "standard" pitches I use a 56.

I'm am known to be deadly with the 8 iron.  If I'm 1" onto the fringe, I'm using the 8 instead of the putter.  I'm a very good putter, but I actually chip even better with the 8.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 08:13 AM

I've gotten really good at judging distances and run out on chips shots. I use everything from my 54* to an 8 iron to chip with and chip really well.

My nemesis is any short chip that has to get up high and stop quickly. I use my (current 62*) lob wedge for all these shots. I'd say I hit about 20% of these good, 30% serviceable, and 50% are a disaster. It's where all my doubles come from.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 08:23 AM

It really depends on lie, distance, and the type of shot i am trying to hit. But normally its one of my wedges.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:01 AM

Mine used to be an 8i. My bump and run saved me from ignominy many times. In fact when I first started at Golf my driver (only 160 yards in total but nearly always in the fairway) and my 8i (bump and run) carried my game. Everything else were just bad things that happened to the ball :)

But this year I tried to develop a 'proper' chip shot. Bump and run doesn't work well on raised greens (esp from the light rough) and definitely not when there's a bunker in the way.

I had quite a lot of success with the idea of just one standard swing and picking the club based purely on distance (not caring about where the ball landed). But then I began to get good and decided to try and choose the club based on ball flight. At the moment I'm having surprising success with my 'magic' 64* Sureout but I've also had some bad results there due to the ease with which it digs into the ground, despite having loads of bounce.

So I dunno. Ask me again in the new year :)

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:20 AM

My 22* hybrid  (the chipping yips suck!)

Edited by Stuart G., 02 November 2017 - 09:20 AM.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:22 AM

View PostBMC, on 02 November 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

I use a 50* 10* bounce 90% of the time.  I open it quite a bit.  I can go low or high.  The 50 pretty much eliminates the chunk.

You've definitely piqued my interest 🤔 I might have to pick up a 50 and play around with it. The option to go pretty low but also getting the ball up quickly are why I like my 54 but doing both with a 50 sounds like something I need to try.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:27 AM

View PostMrJones, on 02 November 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I've gotten really good at judging distances and run out on chips shots. I use everything from my 54* to an 8 iron to chip with and chip really well.

My nemesis is any short chip that has to get up high and stop quickly. I use my (current 62*) lob wedge for all these shots. I'd say I hit about 20% of these good, 30% serviceable, and 50% are a disaster. It's where all my doubles come from.

You just need more practice bud. Set yourself up with 10-12 balls and put a tee or ball marker where you want your ball to land and just keep practicing until it feels fluid. Hardest part is committing to the swing and not blading the ball. Once you have that down it's all about tempo. I am by no means what so ever talking about being able to control it like Phil does but it's nice to know you have that shot in your arsenal when needed.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:29 AM

View PostStuart G., on 02 November 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:

My 22* hybrid  (the chipping yips suck!)


I've been hearing about a lot of guys starting to use hybrids for their bump and run shots. I don't play hybrids but I would assume you'd almost take it like a putting stroke no?
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:32 AM

For chipping, it's usually this one!... :yes:

niblick.jpg

However, for other types of shots around the green, it is likely one of these...

niblick DWandSW.jpg CG16 60.jpg

Edited by bobcat, 02 November 2017 - 01:10 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:35 AM

I pick the club most suited for the shot I'm about to hit.  That could be anything from a lob wedge to a hybrid.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 10:07 AM

I'm not experienced to use a ton of different clubs around the green.  I think it requires more practice time than I have

I use my rusty Callaway 64* for everything and just alter shot type and - especially - trajectory for the shot in question.

Edited by PorscheFan, 02 November 2017 - 10:08 AM.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 10:15 AM

Between my putter and my 56-degree SW that's 90% of my shots near the green. In certain cases it will be 60-degree or GW/PW but I could do just as well without those options if I'm honest.

Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 10:33 AM

Vokey 59 TVD K grind.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:20 AM

View Postrmack1126, on 02 November 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

View PostStuart G., on 02 November 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:

My 22* hybrid  (the chipping yips suck!)

I've been hearing about a lot of guys starting to use hybrids for their bump and run shots. I don't play hybrids but I would assume you'd almost take it like a putting stroke no?

exactly.   Even use the same claw/pencil grip.   I havent' tried it when I'm more then say 10 yards off the green though.

Edited by Stuart G., 02 November 2017 - 11:21 AM.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:29 AM

If I want to use a putting stroke, it will absolutely be with my putter every single time.

My putter is 32-1/2" long with a 79-degree lie angle. Any other club is far, far too long and upright to make a reasonable facsimile of my putting stroke.

Several times over the years I've had someone I'm playing with make that suggestion to me during a round, "Have you ever tried just putting with your [7-iron or hybrid or whatever]?". Then every one of them proceeds to show me a stroke with some other club that looks nothing remotely like the posture, alignment, tempo or club path of their putting stroke.

I've decided the "like a putting stroke" is for most people some sort of mental safety blanket rather than an actual technique. Either that or they are actually doing it waaaaay different than they think they are, which I suppose is always possible.

My favorite was the guy who "explained" that do me and demonstrated it by chipping with a conventional grip then walking up onto the green and putting left hand low. I kept it to myself out of politeness but wanted to ask, "How exactly was that chip 'like a putt', buddy?".

P.S. To friend Stuart G...if you use the claw/pencil grip to chip then I'd reckon that pretty much assures a putting stroke.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:30 AM

View Postrmack1126, on 02 November 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

View PostBMC, on 02 November 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

I use a 50* 10* bounce 90% of the time.  I open it quite a bit.  I can go low or high.  The 50 pretty much eliminates the chunk.

You've definitely piqued my interest �� I might have to pick up a 50 and play around with it. The option to go pretty low but also getting the ball up quickly are why I like my 54 but doing both with a 50 sounds like something I need to try.

Give it a whirl.  Need soft hands.  I also use a Vokey 58 M grind, but the 50 is consistently better on most short shots.  I know it rolls out, so I play that.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:39 AM

For me the 56-degree SW has turned out to be some sort of sweet spot with my interpretation of "use the bounce" technique. Anything really close in around the green it really doesn't matter much if the wedge has 50, 52, 54, 56, 58 or 60 degrees of loft. If you're just hitting a 10-20 yard shot the ball reacts pretty similar with any wedge.

But not infrequently, due to my miserable tee-to-green game I'm faced with shots of 30-50 yards occasionally with a bunker in my way requiring an elevated shot. That's where the 56 seems to work better than my 60 or than the 54 and 58 degree wedge I'd been using up until this summer.

Anything with more loft than my 56 would take a really bit backswing, too long a swing to reliably "use the bounce" rather than hitting a choked-down full-swing type action.

And anything less lofted (like my 50-degree GW) doesn't generate enough height and spin to check up quickly when I need to fly it 35 yards to clear a bunker but the hole is only 5-8 yards past the trap. I just love to death hitting a 40-yard shot that gets about 20 feet off the ground, takes one big hop then rolls out another yard or two to finish near the hole. Can't do that with less lofted wedges and my distance control with a big swing and a 60-degree is pretty dodgy.

Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:42 AM

Depends on the shot, but normally I gravitate to the 54*, I also use the PW for more bump and run shots..
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:58 AM

Almost 100% of the time I use my 60 for anything inside 100.   Although, I've always considered my greenside game pretty decent after playing with many of the guys that are better than I am I've noticed they use a variety of clubs for different situations  and although they're all better putters than I am they're also making up strokes around the greens.  My winter goal is to get a little more comfortable with my 50-55 and god forbid maybe even an 8i around the green.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:03 PM

View PostNorth Butte, on 02 November 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

If I want to use a putting stroke, it will absolutely be with my putter every single time.

I never said I "wanted" to use the putting stroke :-)

But the extra loft of the hybrid get's the ball off the ground enough to actually make it easier (at least for me) to control distance through fairway that's not pristine.  And the hybrid head even works relatively well in rough as long as it doesn't get too long.

View PostNorth Butte, on 02 November 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

P.S. To friend Stuart G...if you use the claw/pencil grip to chip then I'd reckon that pretty much assures a putting stroke.

Considering how many different variations and combinations I've gone through, that wouldn't be a safe assumption.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:07 PM

View PostStuart G., on 02 November 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostNorth Butte, on 02 November 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

If I want to use a putting stroke, it will absolutely be with my putter every single time.

I never said I "wanted" to use the putting stroke :-)

But the extra loft of the hybrid get's the ball off the ground enough to actually make it easier (at least for me) to control distance through fairway that's not pristine.  And the hybrid head even works relatively well in rough as long as it doesn't get too long.

View PostNorth Butte, on 02 November 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

P.S. To friend Stuart G...if you use the claw/pencil grip to chip then I'd reckon that pretty much assures a putting stroke.

Considering how many different variations and combinations I've gone through, that wouldn't be a safe assumption.

Perhaps I should have said it with scare quotes. The claw/pencil grip assures a putting "stroke". :cheesy:
Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:12 PM

Fear a failure is dibilitatng to the touch shots around the green, often times leading to chilli dipping or blading the ball because a golfer doesn't transfer weight from back foot to front foot on the downswing. I see it often, and I seen it in myself. Keeping weight on back foot and trying to scoop the ball into the air. When I started creating a bwtter swing/weight transfer, it opened the door to more diversity in club selection. I play 8 iron on up depending on conditions, now with more confidence.


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