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Aldila SYNERGY TOUR BLACK.....The Low Spin King. Trackman Data Inside.

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#31 swgolf12

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 03:13 PM

Any reviews of this vs Orange V2?

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 03:18 PM

View Postswgolf12, on 06 November 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

Any reviews of this vs Orange V2?
for me the synergy is much more stable, and lower spinning. Same low/low-mid launch; but i felt that the v2 got a bit loose on me while this is much more dependable and consistent.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 03:56 PM

View Postswgolf12, on 06 November 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

Any reviews of this vs Orange V2?

V2 is just like Copperhead TX

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry16368820

Synergy is lower spin and flatter launching.
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 05:02 PM

Anything on this vs the HZRDUS Black?
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 06:49 PM

View PostMrFlapjack, on 06 November 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Anything on this vs the HZRDUS Black?

The link will allow you to compare Kuro Kąge Dual Core XT or Black Mamba to hzrdus black, which should allow a nice comparison to Synergy Proto.

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry16405828

Quick comparison is that hzrdus black launches about .5-1 degree lower than kkdcxt and spins about 200-300 rpm more.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 12:04 AM

View PostTollBros, on 06 November 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

View PostMrFlapjack, on 06 November 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Anything on this vs the HZRDUS Black?

The link will allow you to compare Kuro Kàge Dual Core XT or Black Mamba to hzrdus black, which should allow a nice comparison to Synergy Proto.

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry16405828

Quick comparison is that hzrdus black launches about .5-1 degree lower than kkdcxt and spins about 200-300 rpm more.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 12:46 AM

So this new Synergy spins and launches lower than the Orange V2 and the DCXT? Impressive.
Any chance you can review the 2017 Diamana X? That's their flagship shaft I believe.

Keep up the great work!
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Posted 07 November 2017 - 01:56 AM

View PostHarob11, on 07 November 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

So this new Synergy spins and launches lower than the Orange V2 and the DCXT? Impressive.
Any chance you can review the 2017 Diamana X? That's their flagship shaft I believe.

Keep up the great work!

There were two prototype versions of the X that were submitted for testing. One spun and hit higher, the other was a bit flatter. I'd say the closest thing I can compare the Diamana X to would be a Tensei Pro Orange V2 on one and probably more like a Tensei Pro Blue for the other. I'm unsure which became the retail model.
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Posted 07 November 2017 - 01:09 PM

View PostTollBros, on 07 November 2017 - 01:56 AM, said:

View PostHarob11, on 07 November 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

So this new Synergy spins and launches lower than the Orange V2 and the DCXT? Impressive.
Any chance you can review the 2017 Diamana X? That's their flagship shaft I believe.

Keep up the great work!

There were two prototype versions of the X that were submitted for testing. One spun and hit higher, the other was a bit flatter. I'd say the closest thing I can compare the Diamana X to would be a Tensei Pro Orange V2 on one and probably more like a Tensei Pro Blue for the other. I'm unsure which became the retail model.

For me in the same head the synergy is higher with less spin than my V2!

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:14 PM

View Postgolf4fun, on 07 November 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 07 November 2017 - 01:56 AM, said:

View PostHarob11, on 07 November 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

So this new Synergy spins and launches lower than the Orange V2 and the DCXT? Impressive.
Any chance you can review the 2017 Diamana X? That's their flagship shaft I believe.

Keep up the great work!

There were two prototype versions of the X that were submitted for testing. One spun and hit higher, the other was a bit flatter. I'd say the closest thing I can compare the Diamana X to would be a Tensei Pro Orange V2 on one and probably more like a Tensei Pro Blue for the other. I'm unsure which became the retail model.

For me in the same head the synergy is higher with less spin than my V2!

Glad to hear that. It's not a low launching shaft at all for me, but it is massively low spin.

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 08:34 PM

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 09:09 PM

Just to confirm this shaft is not counter balanced correct?

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:17 AM

View PostWardonation, on 08 November 2017 - 09:09 PM, said:

Just to confirm this shaft is not counter balanced correct?

Correct. Not counter balanced.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:32 AM

View PostTollBros, on 07 November 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

View Postgolf4fun, on 07 November 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 07 November 2017 - 01:56 AM, said:

View PostHarob11, on 07 November 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

So this new Synergy spins and launches lower than the Orange V2 and the DCXT? Impressive.
Any chance you can review the 2017 Diamana X? That's their flagship shaft I believe.

Keep up the great work!

There were two prototype versions of the X that were submitted for testing. One spun and hit higher, the other was a bit flatter. I'd say the closest thing I can compare the Diamana X to would be a Tensei Pro Orange V2 on one and probably more like a Tensei Pro Blue for the other. I'm unsure which became the retail model.

For me in the same head the synergy is higher with less spin than my V2!

Glad to hear that. It's not a low launching shaft at all for me, but it is massively low spin.

So far I'm impressed, now I need to compare to my green mamba 60tx!

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 01:01 PM

View Postjcg132, on 09 November 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

View PostWardonation, on 08 November 2017 - 09:09 PM, said:

Just to confirm this shaft is not counter balanced correct?

Correct. Not counter balanced.

Correct, it definitely is not counterbalanced.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:15 PM

i'll be hitting the sim tonight and playing tomorrow. hopefully the lifting i've been doing the last 2 weeks isn't going to keep me jammed up.

loving this thing so far -- unfortunately it's been too dang cold the last week to get to a range or play. sigh. winter is coming...

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:35 PM

interesting the PROTO 60tx squeaked out the best numbers.

speaks very highly about the quality of the shaft I guess.
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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:51 PM

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 11 November 2017 - 07:35 PM, said:

interesting the PROTO 60tx squeaked out the best numbers.

speaks very highly about the quality of the shaft I guess.

The 65 is nearly the same in terms of the heavier Kuro Kage and Black Mamba, but with a bit more swing speed because of the weight.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:29 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 11 November 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

i'll be hitting the sim tonight and playing tomorrow. hopefully the lifting i've been doing the last 2 weeks isn't going to keep me jammed up.

loving this thing so far -- unfortunately it's been too dang cold the last week to get to a range or play. sigh. winter is coming...
update --

this is firmly in the bag. for me, it was the slight uptick in launch angle that's giving me much more consistent results. i hit all but 2 fairways yesterday (despite being sore AF) - and despite the cold conditions, got all close to 300y (it was sub 50*F), and 2 over 3 bills.

the ball has a piercing trajectory to the apex, goes for days, then hits and runs like a pissed off squirrel.

on the sim i was getting:

AVG SS: 117.3
Smash: 1.47
Launch: 12.2
Spin: 2218
Ball Speed: 169.7
Carry: 287.4
Peak Height: 103'

predominant shot shape: dead nuts straight.

total is irrelevant IMO since it's just a sim.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:15 PM

View Postgioguy21, on 13 November 2017 - 08:29 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 11 November 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

i'll be hitting the sim tonight and playing tomorrow. hopefully the lifting i've been doing the last 2 weeks isn't going to keep me jammed up.

loving this thing so far -- unfortunately it's been too dang cold the last week to get to a range or play. sigh. winter is coming...
update --

this is firmly in the bag. for me, it was the slight uptick in launch angle that's giving me much more consistent results. i hit all but 2 fairways yesterday (despite being sore AF) - and despite the cold conditions, got all close to 300y (it was sub 50*F), and 2 over 3 bills.

the ball has a piercing trajectory to the apex, goes for days, then hits and runs like a pissed off squirrel.

on the sim i was getting:

AVG SS: 117.3
Smash: 1.47
Launch: 12.2
Spin: 2218
Ball Speed: 169.7
Carry: 287.4
Peak Height: 103'

predominant shot shape: dead nuts straight.

total is irrelevant IMO since it's just a sim.

That's a very nice launch window and that sucker at 2200 should hit the ground HOT.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 08:31 AM

Yes this posting is exactly the same as the other topic lol but I just want to make sure all eyes have a chance to chime in!


For those of you that have been playing the shaft....

I'm trying to determine the best tipping length and want to hear some opinions before I move forward. I currently play a KK DC XT 70tx. Tipped 1/2". Getting very solid numbers. Low spin drives are very low and normal drives are hovering around 2100 2200.

I ordered the Synergy proto 65tx because I wanted to try the slightly lighter weight based on the higher swing and ball speeds from the testing. Should I tip this 1/2" as well? Would it make sense to tip it 3/4" or 1" to get the spin down slightly and hopefully keep launch similar or slightly higher?

Thanks for your thoughts!

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:51 AM

View Postosubuckeyes691, on 15 November 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Yes this posting is exactly the same as the other topic lol but I just want to make sure all eyes have a chance to chime in!


For those of you that have been playing the shaft....

I'm trying to determine the best tipping length and want to hear some opinions before I move forward. I currently play a KK DC XT 70tx. Tipped 1/2". Getting very solid numbers. Low spin drives are very low and normal drives are hovering around 2100 2200.

I ordered the Synergy proto 65tx because I wanted to try the slightly lighter weight based on the higher swing and ball speeds from the testing. Should I tip this 1/2" as well? Would it make sense to tip it 3/4" or 1" to get the spin down slightly and hopefully keep launch similar or slightly higher?

Thanks for your thoughts!
mine is currently untipped - 65TX, playing 45.25". haven't had issues with too much spin and control has been exceptional for me.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:29 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 15 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View Postosubuckeyes691, on 15 November 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Yes this posting is exactly the same as the other topic lol but I just want to make sure all eyes have a chance to chime in!


For those of you that have been playing the shaft....

I'm trying to determine the best tipping length and want to hear some opinions before I move forward. I currently play a KK DC XT 70tx. Tipped 1/2". Getting very solid numbers. Low spin drives are very low and normal drives are hovering around 2100 2200.

I ordered the Synergy proto 65tx because I wanted to try the slightly lighter weight based on the higher swing and ball speeds from the testing. Should I tip this 1/2" as well? Would it make sense to tip it 3/4" or 1" to get the spin down slightly and hopefully keep launch similar or slightly higher?

Thanks for your thoughts!
mine is currently untipped - 65TX, playing 45.25". haven't had issues with too much spin and control has been exceptional for me.

What shaft specs were you playing before the Synergy?

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:32 AM

View Postosubuckeyes691, on 15 November 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 15 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View Postosubuckeyes691, on 15 November 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Yes this posting is exactly the same as the other topic lol but I just want to make sure all eyes have a chance to chime in!


For those of you that have been playing the shaft....

I'm trying to determine the best tipping length and want to hear some opinions before I move forward. I currently play a KK DC XT 70tx. Tipped 1/2". Getting very solid numbers. Low spin drives are very low and normal drives are hovering around 2100 2200.

I ordered the Synergy proto 65tx because I wanted to try the slightly lighter weight based on the higher swing and ball speeds from the testing. Should I tip this 1/2" as well? Would it make sense to tip it 3/4" or 1" to get the spin down slightly and hopefully keep launch similar or slightly higher?

Thanks for your thoughts!
mine is currently untipped - 65TX, playing 45.25". haven't had issues with too much spin and control has been exceptional for me.

What shaft specs were you playing before the Synergy?
Xtorsion green 70tx, untipped same length

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:40 AM

View PostTollBros, on 08 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

Confirmed this profile is Tour only and absolutely will not be released retail in this form.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:23 PM

View Postmizuno player, on 15 November 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 08 November 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

Confirmed this profile is Tour only and absolutely will not be released retail in this form.

Will any version of this be available?

It is available in this form.

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#57 cradd10

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:57 PM

waiting for mine to show today......come on USPS
M1 460 Syngery Proto 75
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 02:22 AM

View Postcradd10, on 15 November 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

waiting for mine to show today......come on USPS

To the 30 people who got a 75tx consider yourself lucky. We are 100% out of 75.
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#59 Cruisin1966

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 08:16 AM

I'm having a difficult time reconciling come of the numbers for this shaft given that my SS is 106-110.  By all accounts, taking the Black Mamba numbers as a starting point, could one say that the Synergy "should" produce slightly better results?
Current
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Driver - Ping G400 LST @ 8.5º w/ ProjectX EvenFlow Black 65 6.5
Fairway - Taylormade M2 Tour 3HL @ 16.5º w/ ProjectX HZRDUS Red 65 6.0
Utility - King Utility @ 20.5º w/ UST Mamiya Elements Fire 100S
Irons - Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 4-G w/ KBS C-Taper 120S
Wedges - Callaway MD Forged Chrome 56.10º & 60.08º w/ DG S200
Putter - Bettinardi QB #5
Ball - TP5

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Driver - King F7+ @ 9.5º w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 110 MSI 70S
Fairway - King F7 3/4F @ 14.5º w/ ProjectX HZRDUS Red 65 6.0
Hybrid - King F7 3/4H @ 20.5º w/ Fujikura Pro 75S
Irons - King Pro Forged 4-G (Black, combo set) w/ KBS C-Taper 120S
Wedges - King PŪR Wedge 56.10º & 60.04º w/ DG S200

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 06:55 PM

View PostCruisin1966, on 23 November 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:

I'm having a difficult time reconciling come of the numbers for this shaft given that my SS is 106-110.  By all accounts, taking the Black Mamba numbers as a starting point, could one say that the Synergy "should" produce slightly better results?

Synergy will spin less. Assuming you need that, then yes.

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