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#1 kacer

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:29 PM

I've just started looking into Japanese equipment, mainly because a club fitter that I trust has shown me some irons that I'm going to get. They are the Alpha MB irons.

It seems like there are tighter tolerances with these clubs, not that the technology is better, but they make them to spec rather than mass produce them and you can alter the lie angle on some of the drivers/woods. And you if you order a 10.5 head, chances are the head specs out at 10.5 and has a consistent face angle, rather then I feel US equipment you can order a 10.5 head and you get lofts all over the board.

My question is, what drivers are good in the Japanese market? I've looked at PRGR heads, Royal Collection, and some others but have zero clue if they are comparable to US domestic heads as far as ball speeds, forgiveness, etc...

Can someone point me in the general direction?


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 06:42 PM

JBEAM is my favorite. Ryoma and  Honma are solid as well.
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:22 PM

Historically a lot of love for the S-Yard T.388 as well as above choices

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:32 PM

crazy crz-435 (made by jbeam)
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:15 AM

Seriously, the prices on these drivers are ridiculous... Why?  Are they worth it?


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:00 PM

View Postbogeychampion, on 01 November 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

Seriously, the prices on these drivers are ridiculous... Why?  Are they worth it?

No reason other than people in that market are willing to pay those prices.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 02:09 PM

I read somewhere that summed it up nicely. Have you ever closed the door on a Mercedes S class and closed the door on a Ford Fiesta?

The JDM woods are just superior.

In regards to this topic, PRGR, JBeam, and Baldo.
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:40 PM

Take a look at the new Miura Hayate driver....great club and not ridiculously priced. :taunt: I have the driver, 3 wood and 5 wood....Sweet!!

Edited by FLOGMR, 01 November 2017 - 06:45 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:48 PM

Hideki Matsuyama.
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:52 PM

View PostLondoner, on 01 November 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Hideki Matsuyama.

  I think he plays a Callaway driver

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:03 PM

And rightly so.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:03 PM

View PostLondoner, on 01 November 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Hideki Matsuyama.

i saw what you did there......
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 01:02 PM

View Postkacer, on 31 October 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

I've just started looking into Japanese equipment, mainly because a club fitter that I trust has shown me some irons that I'm going to get. They are the Alpha MB irons.

It seems like there are tighter tolerances with these clubs, not that the technology is better, but they make them to spec rather than mass produce them and you can alter the lie angle on some of the drivers/woods. And you if you order a 10.5 head, chances are the head specs out at 10.5 and has a consistent face angle, rather then I feel US equipment you can order a 10.5 head and you get lofts all over the board.

My question is, what drivers are good in the Japanese market? I've looked at PRGR heads, Royal Collection, and some others but have zero clue if they are comparable to US domestic heads as far as ball speeds, forgiveness, etc...

Can someone point me in the general direction?
Just know that some Japanese drivers are non-conforming if that matters to you.  They are built to give you max distance.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 04:31 PM

Ryoma
PRGR
Miura
JBeam
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Driver - Ping G400 MAX with Ping Alta CB 55 Stiff
3 Wood - Epic with Fujikura 565 Evolution
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 04:39 PM

View Postian-500, on 02 November 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 01 November 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Hideki Matsuyama.

i saw what you did there......
Glad somebody did. :taunt:

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 07:28 AM

Really depends on what you are looking for and depends what you like. Most JDM drivers have forged faces, but that does not always equal to better feel. But Ryoma, JBeam, Baldo is a good place to start.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:59 AM

Callaway Star

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:16 AM

View PostLondoner, on 01 November 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Hideki Matsuyama.

I think Ukyo Katayama is even better.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:32 AM

Went to Japan a couple of months ago.... wondered around 2,3 stores in the Ginza district in Tokyo....  everything obscenely expensive

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:27 PM

The best driver is the one you can hit.


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

I'm totally sick of all the hype from TM, Callaway, PING, et al. I'm going back to JDM. Already have a Fourteen CT-112 that I will NEVER get rid of.

Anyone have any experience with the Bridgestone Tour B line of drivers. Thinking about picking up a "3" model.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 12:20 AM

prob Kamui Kobayashi.
jbeam 435, 9.5*--- 7dreamers 70xs
solid contacts 12.5---* diamana stinger 70x
(prgr egg 16.5* --- quadra fire express 75xs)
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:57 PM

When I was in the market, I fortunate to be able hit a few from JBEAM, Ryoma, and PRGR for a few range sessions (zero numbers on distance (unless you count eye-balling it), etc., just range sessions).  I ended up going with PRGR just based on what I was seeing, and how it looked at address.  To be honest, you really can't go wrong with any, I would have been happy with any of the ones I tested, I just went with the one that seemed to have worked best.

Edited by kasparaitis, 16 November 2017 - 04:58 PM.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:03 PM

JBeam ZY-11 or 435 Blackout
If you like compact heads and really deep faces, these are awesome.
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 10:40 PM

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:25 PM

lololol :slow_en:  troll

View PostLondoner, on 06 November 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

View Postian-500, on 02 November 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 01 November 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Hideki Matsuyama.

i saw what you did there......
Glad somebody did. :taunt:


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:11 PM

I had jbeam blackout and loved it until the magic vanished. Then I got the Epic and it’s still awesome 1 yr later. So I reached the opinion that US makes better drivers and JDM better irons and wedges.  Which is wholly indefensible.

Edited by wmblake2000, 21 November 2017 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:34 PM

Crazy, Voltio, Honma beres, kamui, quelot etc they are all long with forgiveness, the feeling on the tee box is just amazing but be careful when you brought them like the Sword Voltio if you got a swing speed higher than 100 you can break the club face. My first Driver was honma and it was so great!!
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Posted 16 December 2017 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 03:32 AM

Loved all of the Yamaha Inpres XV heads I've tried except the 2013, jBEAM have been hit and miss. Loved the 535 but didn't like the ZY-11. I have a ZY-7 in for testing.......
Kamui Works are great too. I didn't get on with the Ryoma D1 V-Spec.

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Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57*, Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
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