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#1 Londoner

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:28 PM

What are the best, current, waterproofs that youve worn?

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:55 PM

Zero restriction gore-tex for me.
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:50 AM

Fully agree with above - Zero Restriction goretex. I have some Sunice goretex gear too but it feels stiffer to the touch than the ZR.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:47 AM

Galvin Green.
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:50 AM

You're in the UK, try Galvin Green at www.golfposer.com; try proquip, too.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 05:25 PM

My RLX are by far an away the best I have ever worn. Plus they breathe and vent extremely well and zippers are bonded or something to prevent water penetrating into the pockets

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 05:38 PM

View PostSwingMan, on 29 October 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

You're in the UK, try Galvin Green at www.golfposer.com; try proquip, too.
Ive got proquip at the moment. Good free movement, stretch material but dont vent as well as i would like. I will look at  Galvin Green but they are very pricey over here. Not problem if they are up to the job though.
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 07:20 PM

View PostLondoner, on 29 October 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostSwingMan, on 29 October 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

You're in the UK, try Galvin Green at www.golfposer.com; try proquip, too.
Ive got proquip at the moment. Good free movement, stretch material but dont vent as well as i would like. I will look at  Galvin Green but they are very pricey over here. Not problem if they are up to the job though.

Venting is tough - but goretex will breathe.

https://www.golfpose...kings-blue-2017



Galvin Green C-Knit Waterproof Golf Jacket - ACHILLES - Kings Blue 2017
As introduced by Galvin Green at the Ryder Cup last year, this new Achilles waterproof golf jacket features a new three layer Gore-Tex fabrication with the pioneering C-KNIT Backer which has never been seen in golf until now. The revolutionary Japanese technology offers a super smooth feel with the ability to glide over any garments worn beneath the jacket, offering superior comfort without compromising on performance. The Argon golf jacket is the ultimate golf waterproof and features a new rubberised collar and cuff to minimise the risk of rain seeping through the openings. The next generation of waterproof golf jackets, proving that Galvin Green are at the top of their game.
New C-KNIT Backer - designed to ‘slide & glide’ over garments underneath jacket
New Rubberised Collar - unrestrictive yet closer to the body design to minimise rain entry
New Rubberised Shaped Cuffs - ergonomic and flexible design to narrow wrist opening
- Kings Blue, Black, White
- Lifetime Waterproof Guarantee
- GORE-TEX Lightweight Fabric with Stretch
- Complex 3 Layer Construction
- Quiet, Smooth Hand Feel
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- Highly Breathable
- Easy to Pack
- Protective Rear Coverage at Address
- Adjustable Features at Chest, Cuff & Waist
- No Pockets, Minimal Restriction
- Galvin Green 2017 Part Two Collection
Material: Gore-Tex with C-Knit Backer
Fit: Standard
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 07:50 PM

Galvin Green hands down...

https://www.function...aterproofs.html
Best prices I came across from the states. Was at my door inside of a week.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 08:33 PM

KJUS


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:06 PM

Best I have ever had was Macgregor Tourney GoreTex but they do not make it anymore.
Zero Restriction GoreTex is what I wear now (the Tourney stuff is too big for me since I lost a lot of weight).
I have tried other waterproof rain wear (FJ and Nike) but after a couple of years it lost its waterproof properties.
My suggestion, whatever you decide on, make sure it is GoreTex.
GoreTex, not matter what the brand, is not cheap.  But, over the course of the years you can wear it...it really is not that expensive compared to buy the cheaper stuff over and over and over because it no longer keeps you dry.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 04:52 PM

I second Kjus, it’s been the best out there for me and I have tried them all. Factoring that it had to be waterproof, as breathable as reasonably possible, the fit of kjus wins out. It’s also super stretchy so I never know I’m wearing it when I swing. That’s the key in my mind, kjus keeps me dry without reminding me I’m wearing it.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 04:54 PM

KJUS does not use Gore-Tex but it seems to be the PXG of Waterproofs.
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Posted 30 October 2017 - 05:04 PM

View PostSwingMan, on 29 October 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

View PostLondoner, on 29 October 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostSwingMan, on 29 October 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

You're in the UK, try Galvin Green at www.golfposer.com; try proquip, too.
Ive got proquip at the moment. Good free movement, stretch material but dont vent as well as i would like. I will look at  Galvin Green but they are very pricey over here. Not problem if they are up to the job though.

Venting is tough - but goretex will breathe.

https://www.golfpose...kings-blue-2017



Galvin Green C-Knit Waterproof Golf Jacket - ACHILLES - Kings Blue 2017
As introduced by Galvin Green at the Ryder Cup last year, this new Achilles waterproof golf jacket features a new three layer Gore-Tex fabrication with the pioneering C-KNIT Backer which has never been seen in golf until now. The revolutionary Japanese technology offers a super smooth feel with the ability to glide over any garments worn beneath the jacket, offering superior comfort without compromising on performance. The Argon golf jacket is the ultimate golf waterproof and features a new rubberised collar and cuff to minimise the risk of rain seeping through the openings. The next generation of waterproof golf jackets, proving that Galvin Green are at the top of their game.
New C-KNIT Backer - designed to ‘slide & glide’ over garments underneath jacket
New Rubberised Collar - unrestrictive yet closer to the body design to minimise rain entry
New Rubberised Shaped Cuffs - ergonomic and flexible design to narrow wrist opening
- Kings Blue, Black, White
- Lifetime Waterproof Guarantee
- GORE-TEX Lightweight Fabric with Stretch
- Complex 3 Layer Construction
- Quiet, Smooth Hand Feel
- Full Zip
- Highly Breathable
- Easy to Pack
- Protective Rear Coverage at Address
- Adjustable Features at Chest, Cuff & Waist
- No Pockets, Minimal Restriction
- Galvin Green 2017 Part Two Collection
Material: Gore-Tex with C-Knit Backer
Fit: Standard

I will check them out, and be nice to the wife. Will probably cost a new dress for her as well.
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:07 PM

Being a self professed rainwear and winter wear "expert", owning $8000+ (only say that because I stopped counting!) worth of rainwear/outerwear from Galvin Green, Zero Restriction, FootJoy, RLX, ProQuip, Under Armour..pretty much any company making good waterproof gear, as far as GoreTex using manufacturers go, I have to far and away give the nod to Galvin Green.  They make GoreTex apparel somehow softer and with a higher quality "feel" than any other I've used or own.  It's not even close comparing my Galvin Green GoreTex items (comparing like for like..i.e. lined GoreTex, or PacLite, etc) to Under Armour, Zero Restriction, Adidas, etc.  And as a golf course operator, I use this stuff at work (at the course, working) A LOT.  

That being said, GoreTex isn't the end all, be all of waterproof gear anymore.  Several products have caught up to Gore's waterproof capabilities, and even surpassed them in breath-ability.  GoreTex has gotten the reputation of being the most/more expensive due to the it being an expensive material for a manufacturer to use.  Gore requires a manufacturer to offer a lifetime warranty, requires the use of specific factories and machinery to make any garment using Gore materials, and are just very controlling over the entire process.  This translates to higher costs, which is passed on to the consumer.

From W.L. Gore directly:

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Any company that uses Gore-Tex is required to use W.L. Gore-certified factories and machinery. The fabric maker is also closely involved in the design and production processes. Every product must adhere to specific, often controlling, standards set by W.L. Gore. If a company wants to make jacket with Gore-Tex they have to adhere to every step of the process. W.L. Gore first sends the company material samples and the company designs and assembles the jacket. Then W.L. Gore has to approve the jackets style. They analyzes things like zippers, seam tape, hood design, wrist closures, etc. (For example, all Active Shell products must have a trim fit, few pockets or mesh lined pockets, as little seam tape as possible, and must weigh under 14 oz.) After style approval Gore subjects the jacket to rigorous water resistance, wind resistance, and durability testing.
Before any new Gore-Tex garment style is put into production it must pass the Gore lab style approval testing. This sophisticated outerwear testing facility is designed to simulate a variety of rain conditions. Using specially engineered rain nozzles strategically positioned in the chamber, we are able to test a garment's waterproof design in conditions that range from light drizzle to wind-driven rain. Then in the Martindale Test, wool or sandpaper is used to rub the fabric over and over again with considerable pressure. Depending on how tough the fabric needs to be, this vigorous rubbing can continue non-stop for hours … or even days. Then in the Cold Flex Test, Gore-Tex fabrics are squashed and stretched repeatedly in extreme temperatures for hours on end. The fabrics must survive this punishing test and emerge still durably waterproof. If at any point the product doesn't hold up to the high Gore-Tex standards, it is sent back to the drawing board. If the jacket meets all qualifications, Gore gives the go-ahead for production. This incredibly costly and time consuming system has a dramatic end result for the consumer: there are no bad Gore-Tex products.

Obviously there is some value in all of the requirements put on a manufacturer by Gore, as it helps to insure a more reliable product in the end.  But in actual use, some of the competing waterproof membranes out there now are just as good at repelling water and keeping you dry.   You just have to go with a proven manufacturer with a good reputation, as they are the ones backing the product, not Gore/membrane manufacturer.   FootJoy's latest fully waterproof membranes are great, as are Kjus's, ProQuip's, and even the Under Armour stuff that isn't GoreTex (the fully waterproof, seam sealed stuff...not the DWR only items).


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 10:08 PM

Is there such a thing as a pure waterproof garment that doesn’t make you sweat through your clothes anyway? I hate waterproof gear because the breathability is terrible that I sweat like crazy.

Solutions?

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:22 AM

I have a Nike Hyperadapt StormFit jacket that is great.  Pro Quip Aquastorm pants that do the job for me.  For more of the cost minded.  I have been through some pretty heavy rain and stayed dry for the entire round.
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:32 AM

View PostAndrew Bond of Glencoe, on 02 November 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

Is there such a thing as a pure waterproof garment that doesn’t make you sweat through your clothes anyway? I hate waterproof gear because the breathability is terrible that I sweat like crazy.

Solutions?

I believe eVent fabric is the most breathable waterproof fabric that you can get in a golf style waterproof, as far as I can recall.  The company making it allows clothing labels to rebrand it (not like Gore where you have to call it GoreTex), so you might not find it listed as "eVent".  I think Sun Mountain's version is called "FlexVent".  It breathes pretty darn well, for a waterproof membrane.  

In non-golf apparel, AscentShell by Outdoor Research is HIGHLY breathable, but is in apparel geared more for ski type applications.  As a side note, I've also found that some of the more "street" style outdoor/ski wear also works great for golf.  Both are built with heavy activity in mind (outdoor/ski/climbing/hiking gear even more so), so breathability and waterproofing is a critical design factor.  For instance, my Kuhl Jetstream waterproof jacket and pants are also a favorite of mine to wear, because they work so well and look more like "street" clothes.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 03:55 PM

What is the best rain gear for someone on a budget? Looking to spend under $200 for a set.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 07:22 AM

How about Footjoy DryJoy gear?


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Posted 05 November 2017 - 09:15 AM

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 09:16 AM

I have Zero Restriction pants that are 15 years old. Still waterproof.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 03:14 PM

Galvin Green can be bought in US at www.seamlessgolf.com for a good price. I’ve ordered from those UK sites like golfposer.com and function18.com and have had a lot of problems especially with returns when it comes to size issues. Seamless hands down better customer service and will price match UK sites. Way to go.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 03:14 PM

View Postdrscott266, on 30 October 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

I second Kjus, it’s been the best out there for me and I have tried them all. Factoring that it had to be waterproof, as breathable as reasonably possible, the fit of kjus wins out. It’s also super stretchy so I never know I’m wearing it when I swing. That’s the key in my mind, kjus keeps me dry without reminding me I’m wearing it.

I am a big fan of Kjus as well. Its pricey -- but really no more than Galvin Green -- but I feel you get what you pay for. The fit is fantastic and the feel is even better. You don't get much noise from the jacket while you swing, which for me is a big plus.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 09:41 PM

View PostMitchCumstein, on 05 November 2017 - 03:14 PM, said:

Galvin Green can be bought in US at www.seamlessgolf.com for a good price. I’ve ordered from those UK sites like golfposer.com and function18.com and have had a lot of problems especially with returns when it comes to size issues. Seamless hands down better customer service and will price match UK sites. Way to go.

I've seen that site before (seamlessgolf.com), but they will price match golfposer, when seamlessgolf is literally almost twice as high as golfposer and function18?  Didn't know that.  And it seems that seamlessgolf's Galvin selection is much more limited than the UK sites.  

And I've personally never had issues swapping out sizes with golfposer.  They've crossed shipped me the replacement sizes as I sent the returns back, so it was about a 3 day process.  I buy a huge amount of Galvin from them...maybe that's the difference?   I guess it just goes to show that people have drastically different experiences sometimes.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 02:24 PM

View Postjester, on 03 November 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

What is the best rain gear for someone on a budget? Looking to spend under $200 for a set.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 04:35 PM

Got a set of Galvan Green from the sale or clearance part of golfposer last year. Best purchase. Spent $300 for the pants and jacket, wore them on a day at Bandon where we got over an inch of rain and could not have been dryer.

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 08:52 PM

View PostRickKimbrell, on 29 October 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

Best I have ever had was Macgregor Tourney GoreTex but they do not make it anymore.
Zero Restriction GoreTex is what I wear now (the Tourney stuff is too big for me since I lost a lot of weight).
I have tried other waterproof rain wear (FJ and Nike) but after a couple of years it lost its waterproof properties.
My suggestion, whatever you decide on, make sure it is GoreTex.
GoreTex, not matter what the brand, is not cheap.  But, over the course of the years you can wear it...it really is not that expensive compared to buy the cheaper stuff over and over and over because it no longer keeps you dry.
I'm with you on the Macgregor Tourney GoreTex.  Bought mine around 1996 and still have the pants (they are STILL awesome).  If I hadn't started lifting weights and moved from a medium to a large, the jacket would still be my go to.  Paid fairly good money (back in the day) for that suit but was worth every dime!
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Posted 06 November 2017 - 10:06 PM

I don't regularly play in downpours but needed something for a Scotland trip this year.  I wanted GG based on the reputation, but the sizes were way weird and "Euro cut".  Those places Golfposer and Function18 are good values and will work with you on Q&A and customer service.  I was nervous on shipping costs if a size didn't work out.

I got ProQuip Stormforce PX5 from Golfbase UK on Amazon.  They apparently have some operation in Florida, so returns would not require shipping to the UK like some of the other places.

There is an outpost of ProQuip with USA operations that runs some pretty good discounts, but the price via Golfbase was too hard to beat.

ProQuip also states that they are waterproof and are backed by a lifetime warranty, although I have been lucky enough to not test it thoroughly.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:59 PM

Footjoy anything for me


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