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Epic is out...enter the Rogue

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#61 new2g0lf

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:39 PM

View Postgs1184, on 26 October 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Callaway has became Taylor Made. Wth? The epic has barely even been out.

New drivers won't be available until February I'm told.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:08 PM

View Postjaymayor, on 26 October 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

awesome, a driver name that perfectly describes what my ball does off the tee

In that case I'll eagerly anticipate the introduction of the Callaway Slightly-Thin-and-Right

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:37 PM

Thanks of the pictures!
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:24 PM

My sub zero actually distance wise is similar to my Aeroburner TP, though a very different driver to hit.  Last time I'm getting a driver without testing it first.  Still gaming it though since it looks cooler LOL and easier to hit different shot shapes.  

I'm not sure I dig the look of the bottom of the club though.  Hope it really doesn't replace the epics but probably will have epic 2 soon I guess.
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:35 PM

Thanks for the pic! I am guessing it is not long before we see staff members trying these out on the Tours.
I still say there is close to zero percent chance these replace the Epic lineup. XR Steelhead XR16 is beginning to see markdowns this week, which would indicate a replacement model is on the way.
The sole of this driver doesn’t look as premium, doesn’t feature sliding weights and doesn’t look to have carbon fiber “windows”.  Less features would not indicate a replacement for a premium product line. Think M2 to M1. Some may fit Rogue better and there will definitely be some out on Tour, but not a dethroning of King Epic.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:40 PM

Shaft will be Project X Even Flow. Not a replacement for Epic line...irons or woods.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 02:36 AM

This will look great with an Attas 6Star......which I have lying around
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 03:38 AM

Dying to see these new fairways with JB....

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:28 AM

View Postnmorton, on 26 October 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

Shaft will be Project X Even Flow. Not a replacement for Epic line...irons or woods.

I'm trying to get verification but I've been told Rogue replaces XR, not Epic.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:33 AM

Just got an email from PGATSS and the XR line is being discounted with the price ending with 98. That indicates it is being priced to clear it out for new product.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:53 AM

So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:39 AM

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

It least here in Atlanta, the Epic is not marked down. Driver, FW, hybrids, and irons are the same price as the day they were released. Only the XR line is discounted.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:44 AM

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

Where is the Epic marked down at? I need to know so I can get one.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:58 AM

View PostTM_HOYER, on 27 October 2017 - 08:39 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

It least here in Atlanta, the Epic is not marked down. Driver, FW, hybrids, and irons are the same price as the day they were released. Only the XR line is discounted.

Because despite what some people are spewing in here, the Rogue looks to be replacing the XR
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 09:06 AM

Can't seem to find it now, might have been in the other thread too, but didn't someone say that they found Callaway filing for rights to the XR-18 name and Rogue is just one of the 3 version names?  Rogue is basically the sub-zero version with a front/back weight, another with heel/back weights for what they're calling a draw set-up and one that might be a single weight, with no slider as the largest, most "forgiving"?

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Just trying to recount what I remember reading.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

You can buy new at Callaway CPO with any shaft and customized length $330.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:03 AM

I looks epic!!!

Edited by JoeJoeJoeUrBoat, 27 October 2017 - 10:04 AM.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:04 AM

View PostEvanScottKing, on 27 October 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

Can't seem to find it now, might have been in the other thread too, but didn't someone say that they found Callaway filing for rights to the XR-18 name and Rogue is just one of the 3 version names?  Rogue is basically the sub-zero version with a front/back weight, another with heel/back weights for what they're calling a draw set-up and one that might be a single weight, with no slider as the largest, most "forgiving"?

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Just trying to recount what I remember reading.

Yep,  The names XR-18 Rogue, XR-18 Mav and XR-18 Pure have all been trademarked by Callaway.  Filing date was March 1st 2017

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:04 AM

I don't really see how it's an XR replacement when it's just an Epic with altered graphics, maybe some small tweaks to the bottom for "aerodynamics". It's not like people would go buying brand new Epics once this is released...therefore it's competing with it's own line of product. It's a Rev of the Epic, being branded under the XR name so they don't have to reduce the price of Epic by much.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:16 AM

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

You can buy new at Callaway CPO with any shaft and customized length $330.

CPO doesn't count. I knew I could get one there for a while now. Also you cannot get any shaft for $330.00. I have tried and was shot down!

Edited by Golf4lifer, 27 October 2017 - 10:27 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:21 AM

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

You can buy new at Callaway CPO with any shaft and customized length $330.

You can buy "Like New" based on what they have listed. Callaway CPO does not sell new (expect for maybe some old clearance product they want get rid of). Based on my experience buying from Callaway CPO, like new would be as close to new as you can get without it being new.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:50 AM

View PostTM_HOYER, on 27 October 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

You can buy new at Callaway CPO with any shaft and customized length $330.

You can buy "Like New" based on what they have listed. Callaway CPO does not sell new (expect for maybe some old clearance product they want get rid of). Based on my experience buying from Callaway CPO, like new would be as close to new as you can get without it being new.

I got my, like new, Epic at CPO, not a mark on it.  Currently 20% off, roughly $340.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:06 AM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 27 October 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

I don't really see how it's an XR replacement when it's just an Epic with altered graphics, maybe some small tweaks to the bottom for "aerodynamics". It's not like people would go buying brand new Epics once this is released...therefore it's competing with it's own line of product. It's a Rev of the Epic, being branded under the XR name so they don't have to reduce the price of Epic by much.

We have yet to hear a single word about this club from Callaway, so how do we already know “it’s just an Epic with altered graphics?” And if in your opinion this isn’t an XR replacement, then what would a club have to be like in order to be an XR replacement?

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:10 AM

Jailbreak tech in fairway woods and hybrids with the Rogue line as well. Should be interesting.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

View PostGolf4lifer, on 27 October 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

Where is the Epic marked down at? I need to know so I can get one.

CPO does have the LIKE NEW going for 330'ish  price goes down from that point based on rating

Edited by Chile Dip Master, 27 October 2017 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:21 PM

View PostChile Dip Master, on 27 October 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

View PostGolf4lifer, on 27 October 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 27 October 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

Where is the Epic marked down at? I need to know so I can get one.

CPO does have the LIKE NEW going for 330'ish  price goes down from that point based on rating

But I cannot pick what shaft I want, and they don't have the shaft I want listed yet. I have been looking. Otherwise I would have one right now and my XR Pro 16 would be a distant memory.

What courses do you play in the Denver metro area? I'm in Denver as well.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:29 PM

View PostChxDigLongBall, on 27 October 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

Jailbreak tech in fairway woods and hybrids with the Rogue line as well. Should be interesting.

Is Jailbreak only in the Epic driver?

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:33 PM

View PostDpavs, on 26 October 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:


Sort of like a Chevy that they tried to sell in spanish speaking countries named Nova ... which of course loosely translated means  "doesn't go".

Of course it's just a rumor I heard... no way for me to verify it at this point.

Or like the the City of San Diego...roughly translated it means a whale's....

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:34 PM

View PostDpavs, on 26 October 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

I was also told that this is an Epic replacement... from the story I heard,  the feedback Callaway received indicated that players were having consistency and accuracy issues with the Epic so the Epic and Fusion driver had a baby named Rogue... the desire result was a driver with the length of the Epic but more consistency and forgiveness like Fusion.

this surprises me, my Epic driver is very consistent and the ball flight is outstanding. The operator, not so much....

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:41 PM

Yeah, I guess clubs still wrapped in plastic from CPO is different than clubs wrapped in plastic from DSG.

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Epic SZ 14.5 HZRDUS T800 65 stiff 42"
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