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Epic is out...enter the Rogue

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#121 JoeJoeJoeUrBoat

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:02 AM

View PostKaexo, on 31 October 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

Callaway releases a new club within 6 months that isn't going to change anything besides maybe an extra yard. They are making me despise them like I do Taylormade. No thanks.
Did you read grm24's post on page 4? I suggest you do, summarizes what I was about to type perfectly.


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Did you just come out of a coma LOL? Callaway has been releasing as much if not more product as TM for at least the last 6-7 years. They simply get criticized for it less than TM does. Personally I love all of the choices that both TM & Cally have provided. They both make great gear that fits a wide range of players.

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#122 lspky_muskie

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:10 AM

I think we are headed for a massive increase in prices over the next few years.  

If they discontinue the Epic they can price the Rogue at 499.00.  When they bring out the next fully adjustable driver, it will be priced much closer to where the Epic Star is than the Epic was.

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:17 AM

View Post6thFairway, on 31 October 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostCwing, on 28 October 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Like new may be new. As others had already noted, the use CPO to liquidate excess stock, etc...

In my experience "Like New" means new, and "Very Good" means somebody might have used it as an in-store demo once but you probably can't tell.  CPO seriously under-rates condition.

Iíve purchased about 10 ďLike NewĒ from CPO.
7 were still in the plastic but you could tell it was likely sent back to Callaway from a store as the plastic wrap was torn in spots.
The other 3 clubs were likely never hit but had noticeable scratching on the crowns. So they went back.  

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:25 AM

My buddy bought a Like New Epic last week through CPO and I would have rated it as a 7/10.  I hope that was a one off thing and not a new trend for them

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

View Posterock9174, on 31 October 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

View Post6thFairway, on 31 October 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostCwing, on 28 October 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Like new may be new. As others had already noted, the use CPO to liquidate excess stock, etc...

In my experience "Like New" means new, and "Very Good" means somebody might have used it as an in-store demo once but you probably can't tell.  CPO seriously under-rates condition.

I've purchased about 10 "Like New" from CPO.
7 were still in the plastic but you could tell it was likely sent back to Callaway from a store as the plastic wrap was torn in spots.
The other 3 clubs were likely never hit but had noticeable scratching on the crowns. So they went back.  

I've had the same experience.  Purchased a few things off there that said they were in "good" condition and received them and they look brand new.  I couldn't even find any marks or issues.


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:42 AM

I bought some CPO clubs and when they arrived it looked like the previous owner was hitting rocks with them, hitting off the cart path, etc. The description said "no dents' - but they were in horrible condition.  However Callaway made it right and sent me a set that were in very good condition to replace them. The shipping dept never should have sent the crappy set in the first place.

Edited by Les Strokes, 31 October 2017 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 10:42 AM

Not to derail the thread with more CPO talk but I find that if you buy a like new club in the stock combo you get a better shape club.  Say 9* Stiff, 10.5* R flex, 13.5* A flex etc youíre more likely to get a club new in package.  Itís the odd combos I had trouble with. Like a 13.5* with Stiff shaft.
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#128 Davidv

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:33 PM

View Postdouble or triple?, on 31 October 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostKaexo, on 31 October 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

Callaway releases a new club within 6 months that isn't going to change anything besides maybe an extra yard. They are making me despise them like I do Taylormade. No thanks.
Well stated and I agree.
I've said it before but how can you say "they are making me despise them" when they haven't even launched a new wood line or even said any word about a potential new line? Everyone here is posting thoughts about something that a rep is showing accounts but no one knows when it's being released or exactly what it is replacing. It could be a product for January or February which is 3 months from now? how do you know it will only bring you 1 extra yard? Maybe whatever they bring to market could increase distance for you by 5 yards or tighten dispersion by half. Why not wait until launch to make a decision on a club you and half the people here have never seen in person much less actually hit?


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#129 new2g0lf

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:41 PM

View Postdouble or triple?, on 31 October 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostKaexo, on 31 October 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

Callaway releases a new club within 6 months that isn't going to change anything besides maybe an extra yard. They are making me despise them like I do Taylormade. No thanks.

I've said it before but how can you say "they are making me despise them" when they haven't even launched a new wood line or even said any word about a potential new line? Everyone here is posting thoughts about something that a rep is showing accounts but no one knows when it's being released or exactly what it is replacing. It could be a product for January or February which is 3 months from now? how do you know it will only bring you 1 extra yard? Maybe whatever they bring to market could increase distance for you by 5 yards or tighten dispersion by half. Why not wait until launch to make a decision on a club you and half the people here have never seen in person much less actually hit?

Launch of Rogue is after PGA Show, likely February time frame.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:52 PM

I’ve heard that it’s a concrete launch date of Feb 15th.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 08:13 PM

Saw the product today and it replaces the epic line. They are keeping the standard epic head in the line for people who want more adjustability. The new line is solid. Love that the  fairway woods are bonded and they feel great. He said everything launches on Feb 15. They are just now seeding on tour so should start to see pictures soon.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 07:31 PM

Difficult to top the Epic driver and fairways.  Wonder how much better the Rogue series will be?

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 07:37 PM

Hopefully this means I’ll be able to pick up an Epic this winter at a big discount!

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 07:40 PM

It's an interesting market because you have the players segment and the majority public players; God bless them.

I applaud Callaway for entertaining both segments with quality products which is difficult to pull off.

For example, I like Mizuno MP irons but I think their driver and woods are garbage. TM, just ugly and I wouldn't think twice if touching.

Callaway has struck a chord a nostalgia and hook me back with their steelheads and epic drivers; cheers!!!!!

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 07:52 PM

Are EPIC irons done?


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#136 Chuck905

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 07:56 PM

View PostUSGA22, on 12 November 2017 - 07:52 PM, said:

Are EPIC irons done?

I do personally know owners of epic irons and I am dumb founded but all the power to them; they are in blessed segment and we can appreciate that.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:45 PM

do i really need another driver
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:06 PM

View Postlspky_muskie, on 31 October 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

My buddy bought a Like New Epic last week through CPO and I would have rated it as a 7/10.  I hope that was a one off thing and not a new trend for them

call them.They will make it right.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:24 PM

the epic 3 wood is the best club in my bag right now
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:10 PM

View PostEvanScottKing, on 27 October 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

Can't seem to find it now, might have been in the other thread too, but didn't someone say that they found Callaway filing for rights to the XR-18 name and Rogue is just one of the 3 version names?  Rogue is basically the sub-zero version with a front/back weight, another with heel/back weights for what they're calling a draw set-up and one that might be a single weight, with no slider as the largest, most "forgiving"?

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Just trying to recount what I remember reading.
Consider yourself corrected., or at least wrong.


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:14 PM

View PostMSUgolfer, on 02 November 2017 - 08:13 PM, said:

Saw the product today and it replaces the epic line. They are keeping the standard epic head in the line for people who want more adjustability. The new line is solid. Love that the  fairway woods are bonded and they feel great. He said everything launches on Feb 15. They are just now seeding on tour so should start to see pictures soon.

Will they be keeping the Epic SZ in the line for 2018?

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:55 AM

View Posthef63303, on 13 November 2017 - 10:10 PM, said:

View PostEvanScottKing, on 27 October 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

Can't seem to find it now, might have been in the other thread too, but didn't someone say that they found Callaway filing for rights to the XR-18 name and Rogue is just one of the 3 version names?  Rogue is basically the sub-zero version with a front/back weight, another with heel/back weights for what they're calling a draw set-up and one that might be a single weight, with no slider as the largest, most "forgiving"?

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Just trying to recount what I remember reading.
Consider yourself corrected., or at least wrong.

Callaway does own the trademark rights to the names Iíve outlined above, but speculation at this point seems to show them moving another direction. Until they file abandonment of the trademark or release an official statement Iím holding out and hoping these new driver offerings are re-vamped iterations of the XR line.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:11 PM

Epic isn't out for me. It will stay in my bag for some time to come. :-)
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