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#1 Tyeetime

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:18 PM

10 Handicap.
100 rounds of golf this year.
And not one of them was double-bogey free. Does this seem strange to anyone else? You would think that ONE of those rounds would be without a double.

It became a mission for me as the summer wore on to shoot no worse than bogey, but alas I failed. I wonder if I became too aware of it, because my goal of getting to single digit also stalled. But for those predictable blow up holes, I might have done it.


Anyway, next year.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:43 PM

Not all that odd really.

Score (including double bogeys) - is an "output". The inputs are the reps; a basis for purposeful practice; the mental/physical side; the fit of equipment.

Be it doubles. triples, birds, pars, or eagles... the output eventually responds to the inputs.  Hang in there.  Indian summer days sill ahead this season and there's always next year.  It will come.  The old man used to say "You're going to find exactly what you're looking for."   Keep the faith!  Welcome to wrx, too btw!

Cheers and good luck out there. :good:

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:21 PM

View PostTyeetime, on 19 October 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

10 Handicap.
100 rounds of golf this year.
And not one of them was double-bogey free. Does this seem strange to anyone else? You would think that ONE of those rounds would be without a double.

It became a mission for me as the summer wore on to shoot no worse than bogey, but alas I failed. I wonder if I became too aware of it, because my goal of getting to single digit also stalled. But for those predictable blow up holes, I might have done it.


Anyway, next year.

At an 11 ? I believe it.

Although I guess it does seem a little bit odd that not even a single round was db free,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:47 PM

Not strange. If it were so, you probably wouldn't be a 10. I think it a super goal. I'd really analyse your double bogies (rather than just forgetting them) and work on the things causing them...
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:38 AM

Golf is difficult.  Double bogeys are inevitable.

Don't beat yourself up about it.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:55 AM

It isn't that odd. But welcome to WRX as Reason says, so hang in there... as a WRX'er, soon you will be mashing out 300+ yard drives, easily be in the low single digit handicaps, and giving advice in Instruction & Academy to others as how to avoid bogey's completely...and as a bonus, you will be able to strike up a discussion on the exact point in the swing of pronation and supination of the left and right hands respectively...

Good for you for setting goals, stick with that plan for next season and good luck.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:24 AM

Doubles usually result from a lost ball.  If it occurs on the same hole (or the same type of hole) over and over again, you likely need to reconsider your shot selection.  Usually that means hitting something different off the tee or laying up to a better spot.

Doubles (or worse) can also mean you don't get out of trouble properly when you get into trouble.  Get back into play with only one shot used and not 2 or 3 because you got greedy and tried to get more out of it than your talent level dictated.

Get a playing lesson from your pro or even from a good low handicap.  You might be surprised at the things you don't do when you should and the things you do instead and don't realize it.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:43 AM

View PostTyeetime, on 19 October 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

10 Handicap.
100 rounds of golf this year.
And not one of them was double-bogey free. Does this seem strange to anyone else? You would think that ONE of those rounds would be without a double.

It became a mission for me as the summer wore on to shoot no worse than bogey, but alas I failed. I wonder if I became too aware of it, because my goal of getting to single digit also stalled. But for those predictable blow up holes, I might have done it.


Anyway, next year.


No worries.   It's just a score.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:03 AM

I fluctuated between 7.8 to a max of 10.1 this year. Only had a few rounds that were all bogeys or better. The past few years before that I had many more double bogey free rounds which is part of why my handicap was lower then. Still plenty of golf left this year but then I'm not in B.C.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:16 AM

I'm an 8, and I usually puke out at least one double bogey per round. In fact, in 87 rounds this year (68 eighteen hole rounds, 19 nine hole rounds) my breakdown looks like this:

Total Birdies: 70   
Total Pars: 578
Total Bogeys: 561
Total Doubles+: 195

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:46 AM

Your course or courses can play a big factor as well. I used to play at a pretty wide open course where you really had to work to make a double bogey. My current course is much tighter, and there are quite a few holes where it's actually quite easy to get yourself in a situation where double bogey comes into play.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:54 AM

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Doubles usually result from a lost ball.  If it occurs on the same hole (or the same type of hole) over and over again, you likely need to reconsider your shot selection.  Usually that means hitting something different off the tee or laying up to a better spot.
I think you're forgetting poor short game. I've had many more doubles over the years from poor chipping than I have lost balls.

I play a lot of rounds and usually have 12 to 14 good holes. One of my main goals every round is to not have a double and I struggle to hit that goal.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:13 AM

I'm a 5, and played close to 75, not one of which was double free.

I shot back to back 76's, one of which had a double bogey, a triple, an eagle, and no birdies. That one was tough to swallow, and it was on the 16th hole, which made the eagle on 18 that much more dramatic, and that much harder to trust my swing. It was a true testament to trusting yourself and your mental side though.

The next one had two doubles, and two birdies.

Both rounds had like 12-13 pars, or something like that.

Those rounds are tough to look back on, even though the scores are good. Take away one of the big numbers, and have 3 of the 12-13 birdies putts fall, and I would've broken par. Or just had half the birdie putts drop and I would've broken par. I putt too defensively when I'm playing well and burn too many edges. Did the same yesterday.

I will almost always make two doubles in a round of golf. It's inevitable. I think a big part of overcoming that though is this: You can still shoot a good score, and don't start pressing too hard to make something happen, to try and make up for it. Play your game and red numbers will happen. It's when you start to make a double, and then go "I NEED to birdie the next hole" that you start to make even more mistakes.

I've had rounds without doubles, but they've been nothing notable. It seems that my formula for shooting a good score has more reward than risk, but just enough risk to put up a double here and there. If I play any more defensively than that, I actually play even worse.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:14 AM

Great putting and great chipping/pitching can save double bogeys all day long.  When I do double a hole its normally a bad approach/pitch followed by a bad chip or two and a 2 putt.  Eliminate one of those and its a bogey instead.

I normally do not have penalty strokes.  So Its mostly around the greens that add stupid strokes, for me.  You need to analyze your game and see where those are occurring and practice that part of your game.

Really good chipping and putting takes pressure off all the other aspects of your game.

BTW  if can play a small money points game you'll find your doubles will be eliminated.  This is because a double is either a zero or a negative one on the score card.  You'll be playing those bad holes to avoid the double when things go bad on a hole.  It took a lot of mine away as I learned to play the game.  I have not had a double in the last 5 rounds.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:02 AM

I've jumped from 21 to 8 handicap this year.....1 double bogey free round....but that wasn't be best round.

I shot a +2 round and had 2 double bogeys!

Dec - Mar >> 21.2
Apr >> 21.2, 20.1, 18.6, 18.0  
May >> 18.0, 16.2, 15.7, 14.2, 14.3  
Jun >> 14.3, 13.1, 12.1, 11.5, 11.6  
Jul >> 11.6,  11.4,  10.8
Aug >> 10.8,  9.2,  7.4  
Sep >> 7.4,  7.5,  7.6,  7.7
Oct >>> 7.7,  7.8,  7.9

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:29 PM

I have a friend who is a very well respected teaching pro. He is even in our state's golf Hall of Fame.  One time he told me and a group of guys that almost half off all doubles are mental mistakes, if you are a solid single digit golfer.  He said too often instead of taking our medicine and playing for a bogey we try to do to much with a shot and compound our issue, then the doubles and more occur.  I will say i try now not to make the miraculous shot but the "smart shot". It surprises me how few doubles I have at times (I make plenty of Bogies). Do I still make them, absolutely its apart of golf.  Anyway just some advice that was shared with me and it helped me cut down on them.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

Doubles for me typically happen when I try to hard to salvage hole instead of making a smart play from a bad situation.

Edit: I guess I should have read the post right above me then I simply could have said, "yeah, that".

Edited by chippa13, 20 October 2017 - 12:47 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 04:10 PM

View PostMrJones, on 20 October 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

View PostSocrates, on 20 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Doubles usually result from a lost ball.  If it occurs on the same hole (or the same type of hole) over and over again, you likely need to reconsider your shot selection.  Usually that means hitting something different off the tee or laying up to a better spot.
I think you're forgetting poor short game. I've had many more doubles over the years from poor chipping than I have lost balls.

I play a lot of rounds and usually have 12 to 14 good holes. One of my main goals every round is to not have a double and I struggle to hit that goal.
You list a 4.4 so you likely aren't making too many mental errors or not playing smart.  I too suck at chipping (for being a lower hcp) and I'll have to say that chipping has cost me more than I would like, but once you've lost a ball, it's really hard not to make a double.  There is nothing better than to hit it into trouble, pitch out smartly, miss the green and then chip your way into a double. :(

I know a guy who should be shooting in the low 80's based on his swing and knowledge of the game.  Played 18 holes with him and I couldn't believe how poorly he managed his game from tee to green and he's played for decades.  Just basic mistakes I would never make and I would have thought he should know and now I know why he shoots 90+ on an easy course.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:10 PM

Seems like i do that too

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 06:30 PM

Im 60 and have played a few thousand rounds of golf in my life.  And never have I ever played a round without at least 1 double bogie. Never. And it burns me up too!
And like you near 10 HC.  So no. Its not odd at all. Not in my world.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:12 PM

As others have said, not odd. Might be helpful to figure out how the doubles are happening. If its an OB/lost ball, the DB is hard to avoid. In that case, maybe work on your driver game.

For myself, I analyzed my rounds and realized too many were coming after green side bunker shots. Bladed, chunked, poor sand shots that led to it being difficult to get the next one down in two. I increased my sand practice and its no longer a problem (for now).

One other thing I noticed for me was a tendency to mentally check out of a hole when it wasnt going well. I was falling back on ESC max of double and not focusing on trying to salvage a bogey. A poorly struck approach shot leads to a difficult/poor third shot, and then Id three putt because I was being a baby and not focusing.

Just a couple examples from my game that may or may not click for you. Good luck!

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 08:50 AM

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View PostSocrates, on 20 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Doubles usually result from a lost ball.  If it occurs on the same hole (or the same type of hole) over and over again, you likely need to reconsider your shot selection.  Usually that means hitting something different off the tee or laying up to a better spot.
I think you're forgetting poor short game. I've had many more doubles over the years from poor chipping than I have lost balls.

I play a lot of rounds and usually have 12 to 14 good holes. One of my main goals every round is to not have a double and I struggle to hit that goal.
You list a 4.4 so you likely aren't making too many mental errors or not playing smart.  I too suck at chipping (for being a lower hcp) and I'll have to say that chipping has cost me more than I would like, but once you've lost a ball, it's really hard not to make a double.  There is nothing better than to hit it into trouble, pitch out smartly, miss the green and then chip your way into a double. :(

I have a few times during the year where I get the yips chipping around the green. A decelerated duff goes nowhere and a bladed wedge goes over the green. I won't do it the whole round but just one of those can hurt when you've otherwise got a good round going. Those small 15 yard and under shots are the only one's I still sometimes get nervous over.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:30 AM

View PostMrJones, on 23 October 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:

View PostSocrates, on 20 October 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

View PostMrJones, on 20 October 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

View PostSocrates, on 20 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Doubles usually result from a lost ball.  If it occurs on the same hole (or the same type of hole) over and over again, you likely need to reconsider your shot selection.  Usually that means hitting something different off the tee or laying up to a better spot.
I think you're forgetting poor short game. I've had many more doubles over the years from poor chipping than I have lost balls.

I play a lot of rounds and usually have 12 to 14 good holes. One of my main goals every round is to not have a double and I struggle to hit that goal.
You list a 4.4 so you likely aren't making too many mental errors or not playing smart.  I too suck at chipping (for being a lower hcp) and I'll have to say that chipping has cost me more than I would like, but once you've lost a ball, it's really hard not to make a double.  There is nothing better than to hit it into trouble, pitch out smartly, miss the green and then chip your way into a double. :(

I have a few times during the year where I get the yips chipping around the green. A decelerated duff goes nowhere and a bladed wedge goes over the green. I won't do it the whole round but just one of those can hurt when you've otherwise got a good round going. Those small 15 yard and under shots are the only one's I still sometimes get nervous over.

Losing confidence in chipping is the biggest reason my scores go up in a given round, and the funny thing is, when I just have confidence, I'm quite good around the greens.

I played a round last week at an unfamiliar course, with fast greens that had a lot of movement and was too tentative for the first 14 holes, and the day was chalked up to a loss from there. But, on the 15th, I finally said screw it, I'm gonna hole this one out, and I hit a low chip with lots of spin right at the hole, and it hit the pin. I didn't drop a shot for the remaining holes.

For me, it's really just having confidence that I'm gonna get it to spin enough to stop within a few feet of my intended target. Once I have that confidence, I'll have a good round.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:32 AM

Its in your head I bet.  Is this mostly at the same course?  have you ever tried switching up or even thinking of a strategy?  I find majority of my double bogies or worse come from "stupid" golf.  I dont think about it, and just pull out a club a swing.  My best rounds come from analyzing the holes, thinking where I want to land my tee shot for the least amount of trouble with the highest amt of success and setting my self up for the next shot that I am comfortable with.  
Also if you have a weakness especially rotating ones, play away from it for the day at least... again pick the smart play.

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#25 hahanice

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 11:46 AM

i dunno i kinda think thats weird. thats a lot of golf not to have found 1 round DB free. i am also a 10, and probably stay DB free 20% of my rounds. but i wouldnt worry too much about it. i would be happy with doubling more holes if it meant i birdied more as well...


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#26 EKELLY

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 05:12 PM

Stop THINKING about doubles....Let's start with that!......

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 04:20 PM

Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate all of the responses.

To answer a few questions;
-Not many of my my doubles are a result of lost balls or O/B, I don't lose many balls.
-95% of my games are at the same course.
-Not one single aspect of my game is to blame, sometimes I play conservatively sometimes I get agressive.

My take away from this thread is that I am not going to worry about it too much.

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:00 PM

One hundred rounds is a large sample and you are a 10-handicap, so yes, that seems odd to me. Are you having issues with ball striking, short game, or putting? Is course management in need of a little work? You'll figure it out. All the best!

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:32 PM

View PostTyeetime, on 25 October 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate all of the responses.

To answer a few questions;
-Not many of my my doubles are a result of lost balls or O/B, I don't lose many balls.
-95% of my games are at the same course.
-Not one single aspect of my game is to blame, sometimes I play conservatively sometimes I get agressive.

My take away from this thread is that I am not going to worry about it too much.

It’s not the double that I usually worry about after the round.  It’s score on the hole before and after that may post a concern to me.

As the matter of fact I shot even par on the front nine with bogeys on the first 2 holes and a double from ob on the 4th.  Then I went on and shot 5 over on the back with bunch of bogeys and birdies because it was hot and I was distracted. Too much thinking about Golf.
Take Dead Aim

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#30 IronHitter

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 08:49 PM

The most interesting thing of all is you playing exactly 100 times this year and having exactly 10 handicap


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