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What made you quit the endless cycle of buying/ selling clubs?!


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#61 nattybohknows

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 04:11 PM

My journey and recovery with irons. Short summary- I was an idiot

I have been fortunate being financially stable (not luxurious by any means) with two young kiddos, 7&2 now 6&1 when I went down the rabbit hole (with one childcare expense that makes me nauseous but that is our choice) but I never splurged on myself. I also have an addictive personality. For my 30th last year my wife told me to upgrade my entire bag after having the same set from when I got into golf prior.  Getting into Golfwrx (seriously look at my first post I was a overwhelmed lost child) I had no idea how to proceed. I had the driver (fly z at golf galaxy for 180) and putter squared away from golf galaxy gift cards I got for christmas from family. Wife bought me the bag and told me to get whatever I wanted for the irons. I had an iron budget I felt was more than generous ($500) where I wasn't overly splurging but to be honest I felt dirty (which get's even worse when I get into my Scotty putter experiment from this past year. Learned my lesson never again).

Anyways got my first set after research (not demoing- first mistake) of the 2014 Apex. Paid 470 for them (Great within budget). Played a few rounds with them, was a club and a half shorter than my TM Burner plus I bought in college. I believe the burners were stronger loft but not that bad.  I know the Apex were tweeners and less forgiving but questioning what club to use for a 140 yd out shot to the green (and settling on a 5 iron) was depressing as hell. Learned from it I hate the XP95 shaft R300. Didn't want to tell the wife I thought I made a mistake. I told myself If I could sell them for a profit, and buy something else then its nothing more than a failed experiment. I told myself I wasn't going to spend a dollar more on another set. Sold them quickly on Ebay for more than I paid. I had no idea the cost to ship irons and that ebay would hold funds and how much fees I would get hit with. Decided to go back to Taylormade and get the RSI 1 for 415 I believe. As I had a vacation coming up and a scramble my wife told me to purchase them prior to the Apex clearing. So now I am 900 something in on irons hoping to god there is no issues with the sale (I packaged them up I thought well) and it would clear.

Not a damn thing was wrong with the RSI 1s. But I saw the EZ Forged prices on ebay were low read too much watched too many reviews. Decided I needed to sell the RSI 1 after a month and three rounds. Took longer to sell them didn't make much on them at all but still made it happen. Got the EZ Forged with the XP Shaft. I knew better but they looked so freaking pretty and had I could have a golf galaxy $1000 set for below $400. Plus I told myself these were S300 I would hit them better. Club guessing again and pride that my 63 year old dad is questioning why I have to use 2 clubs different than his Karsten and I sold them.

Said I would go back to Game Improvement. Made a healthy sale on Craigslist but at this point the wife was asking what the hell would make me happy. Bought the Ping G's on ebay which was a draining process to get them in the price range I wanted and hell of a lot of communicating and wheeling and dealing. Never played Ping people love them and hell it reminded me of the Burners with the badge. Plus I figured if it didnt work this time, Ping is popular. Had to pay in the upper part of the range (I think it was 490) to get them. Played them and at this point it was an addiction. Aint nothing wrong with them but I wanted to chase something else. I wanted Srixon everyone raved on here about the 545. I thought it would be an easy sale to recoup what I paid. I was wrong. I tried 3 times on BST couldnt make it happen (3 months) They sat on Craigslist the same time too. This whole time I didn't play them because the finish wears pretty quickly and I didn't want to loss value. This whole time I am being low balled and dealing with people on Craigslist who want me to drive an hour so they can test them out. I golfed less last year than any point of when I got into golf and I was excited about playing winter golf since I had more flexibility with my job last year.

Finally after 4+ months, I sold them at a loss (but overally I had a freaking spreadsheet tracking it I was out ahead) and got the Z545. I was emotionally drained and spent from it and thankfully I got lucky because I love the irons (I should've freaking tried them out). Should've learned my lesson when I had the opportunity to splurge on a putter this  and dealt with that drama this year with the Scotty I thought I wanted and spent awhile selling because I didn't need it and felt wrong owning it so I could get something cheaper to compliment my 80 odyssey blade.

I am done hoing. I'll probably get a new driver next year and I would like to get the CBX wedge when it sells for $75-80 but it was draining to me and not worth it. Had I demoed the apex I never would've bought them. Try before buy is my best advice. For me I learned freedom was a bad thing for my impulses. If I had excess income I can understand how it would get addictive and could see it more enjoyable but trying to stay within a budget, it wasn't worth it. I have more important priorities in my life right now.

/end story thanks for listening


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#62 grm24

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 04:45 PM

View PostTitleist983K, on 18 October 2017 - 12:13 PM, said:

I've bought and sold more clubs this year than anytime in the past. I'm understanding that clubs make very little to no difference in the scores I shoot. Yet I continue searching through the BST, Ebay, and Craigslist to hopefully find that magic club or deal. It's completely consuming and stressful to be honest. Any advice on how to quit this endless cycle?
I haven't quit. While I have my "gamers" I simply like to try out new clubs, shafts, balls, etc. Sometimes you get a surprise and end up with a new stick in the bag. I've cut back some on buying clubs but still buy plenty.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:41 PM

DO LIKE ME.


JUST BUY!!!!!!

SELLING SUCKS!!!

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:02 PM

View PostBonesaw, on 18 October 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

Well 14 years ago I got sent to federal prison.  Stopped then.  Then about 14 months ago I had a myocardial infarction and didn't wake up until about 2 days ago.

My g400 will be here tomorow
What took so long. lol  2 days without any type of club. Lucky u didn't have a cardiac arrest.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 06:55 AM

For me it was finally settling down and doing on a fitting on the clubs in my bag that I tended to cycle through rather quickly.  I typically have fairway woods and hybrids for at least 2-3 seasons so those were never really an issue.  Some years I had 2-3 drivers and the same number of iron sets.  

About 3-4 seasons ago I got fit for a G30 LS driver and it has been magical since.  My FIR have shot up, I am just as long, if not longer than the current beasts being offered (G400, Epic, M2) and with much more confidence.  I am thinking I can push this driver through another Ping driver turnover before it might be worth exploring something new.  My irons I finally got fit for this year instead of going through roughly an iron set a year and the results have been decent.  My handicap/scoring average has gone down by about 3-4 strokes so I'm happy, and my worst games are basically on par with my good games last year.  I'm still fiddling if I should be 1/2 long or standard length (6' tall, 36" WTF) as I am kind of right on the cusp, but once I figure that out I'll be good.  Wedges I haven't really gotten along with but I plan on doing a wedge fitting this winter to see if I can make them pop.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:00 AM

Just came to the realization, that golf clubs just aren't getting better anymore. I have what I would consider some vintage clubs that are definitely better than current models. I'm not talking old clubs, mostly from the past 5 years or so.

Still, it is fun to get something new, and bring it out for the first time. That was always the hook for me. I'll still buy the odd thing, but just no where near with the expectation I once had.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:06 AM

Why quit? The only time I ever bought a club expecting it to be noticeably better than what I had is when 460cc, higher COR drivers came along. Other than that I get new to me clubs because I like to try different stuff. I almost never buy a new club at retail. I think the last one I bought new was my Mizuno Bettinardi C06 I bought at Golftown in 2010.And it was on sale for $99 marked down from $199.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:16 AM

I had too many full sets of clubs, so I sold everything but my Callaway set, then the opportunity came with Ping and now I have an all Ping bag, so I now have only 2 full set of clubs, love them both...completely fitted to both and they perform great, so I came to the realization that I honestly don't need any more golf clubs...I've been playing for over 20 years and had a basement full of clubs, amazing how much room I have after I sold everything else...the itch still there but I just look at the 2 bags and tell myself "I'm good"...lol
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Irons-----------------Ping iBlade 4-P, Project X 6.5 Flighted
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 03:34 PM

Having too much fun chasing that dream of those magical clubs that will cure all my skill defiencies. Why quit....☺

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 03:52 PM

View Postmefnocerous, on 18 October 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

Go get fit. Then you know it's not the clubs.

Or schedule a fitting and then go shoot the round of your life with your current bag. That's what I did.... apparently just had to let them know their jobs were at risk, then they finally shined bright.


This, I've been playing for 31 years now and am only on I believe my 4th set.  I got fit for Ping Eye 2's in the early 90's and got fit for the 2 sets I've had since then.  My driver has been replaced a little more due to technology, my 3 wood I rarely replace since it's hard to find a trusty 3 wood.  The clubs I swap the most are wedges mainly and that's only every few years mainly due to groove wear (same reason I had to replace my Pings and the set that followed the Pings). Once your fit and you know you'll get the result you want as long as you do your part, I can't think it's easy to want to move away from that.  I have everything so dialed in this point after having my current irons in the bag for 4-5 years now that the thought of replacing them would make me ill.   All this only applies if you want to stop buying and looking at new things, some people just like new things and that's cool too.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:47 PM

My mother didn't raise a quitter!

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 06:24 PM

Getting fit is overrated. (wait for the gasps...) Seriously, the new shaft that came in the Ping G driver I picked up last week flew higher and longer than the one I was "fit" for last spring

For me it's more about the seasons.  Living in a cold weather area, I get outside as much as possible between April and mid-October and rarely buy clubs during the golfing season, largely because I would rather be outside than staring at a computer screen.  Once it gets cold and windy out, I find myself digging through the BST and ebay mostly out of boredom.

The thing that's killing me right now is the putter dilemma.  I just bought a TP Mills off ebay today JUST so I could gauge whether or not I like the headweight and offset for the new one I'm ordering!
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 06:48 PM

What made me quit is my most recent bag setup. Sure, no Club is older than 3 months at the current moment, but this bag is different. It’s a keeper. I’ve never said this about any other setup I’ve had, since the beginning of summer.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 07:45 PM

Not having access to them at cost anymore unfortunately

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:41 PM

New clubs wouldn't go farther than older model.  :D

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:02 PM

Spending a ton on my current set up and getting my initials stamped on everything so it'd be harder to sell them on bst
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:59 AM

View Postshuddleston, on 20 October 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

Spending a ton on my current set up and getting my initials stamped on everything so it'd be harder to sell them on bst

Hmm.. getting my initials stamped on my irons might actually work.  Now I just need to find a set that I like enough to stamp :)
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:02 AM

View Postbevans0222, on 24 October 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

View Postshuddleston, on 20 October 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

Spending a ton on my current set up and getting my initials stamped on everything so it'd be harder to sell them on bst

Hmm.. getting my initials stamped on my irons might actually work.  Now I just need to find a set that I like enough to stamp :)

Got my first set of forged irons in years. Took them out for an inaugural round and on my very first swing with the 6-iron caught a piece of gravel in a fairway bunker.

So I haven't stamped my initials on them but I'd recognize that big dent in the sole of the 6-iron anywhere.

Reckon that hurts my resale value???????

P.S. It may have "ruined" the appearance of the club but it was a super sweet 6-iron shot, given my usual results out of bunkers. I'd do it again in a heartbeat new club or not.

Edited by North Butte, 24 October 2017 - 12:05 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 12:02 PM

I've started making only revenue-neutral moves... but stacking coupon codes on Global and doing my selling on eBay of Facebook BST makes that easier to still come out ahead.

Also, selling premium shafts from clubs bought at Global or CPO and re-shafting with something on clearance from DTG before reselling has increased the return relatively significantly as well.  For example, I bought a '15 GBB with Rogue I/O for $85 from CPO, sold the shaft for $75, put a $20 Red Tie + $10 adapter + $1 grip from DTG back in it, added a $5 head cover from the used bin at PGASS, and sold the Frankenclub for $145 on Facebook BST... so net $100 profit and scratched the itch to make a purchase and do some club building.  

I've also been making more changes to my backup bag, usually just to scratch the itch and try something new, and leaving my gamer bag pretty much set.
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 01:40 PM

View PostTitleist983K, on 18 October 2017 - 12:13 PM, said:

I've bought and sold more clubs this year than anytime in the past. I'm understanding that clubs make very little to no difference in the scores I shoot. Yet I continue searching through the BST, Ebay, and Craigslist to hopefully find that magic club or deal. It's completely consuming and stressful to be honest. Any advice on how to quit this endless cycle?

find a head you like and play with shafts. by now you probably have a head(s) you like. now just play around with shafts to make the golden club. its a stressful process but its all worth it once the numbers on the score card go lower !

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:56 PM

View PostBarryKirby, on 18 October 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

I used to change irons about every other year.  But last April I experimented with Single Length Irons and now I am completely content.  I also have been playing the same woods now for over a year - big change.  I was custom fit  for all my irons, woods and wedges, and that has made the difference for me.  I was one of those people who loved the hunt of the purchase more than the capture.  One of the best things I did for my game was to get custom fitted to a Directed Force Putter.  That was the best days work I ever put in for my game.
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Posted 25 October 2017 - 09:10 AM

I think a big part of the fun of many hobbies - not just golf - is in the gear.

I know from experience as a guitar player that half the fun is looking/trying/buying new guitars.  Strat, Les Paul, Tele, Ibanez - I want to own them all!  I have audiophile friends who are the same way about their audio gear.  It's not unusual for them to spend $500 on a turntable needle.

Golf is the unicorn hobby for gear heads, because you can delve deep into the weeds on an infinite amount of gear, from hats, gloves and apparel to balls, wedges and putters.  It's all fun!

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 09:45 AM

I've had so many sets of irons woods and wedges... I understand it's always the Indian rather than the bow, but the mental block of using something you don't like is frustrating. Sometimes it takes a shiny new set of something to see the light! I'm a firm believer in experimentation with clubs, that way when you find something that jives you appreciate it.
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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

I havenít done much of it but so far Iíve learned to buy 1 of the ďbig 4Ē or something popular or you will lose too much money.
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#85 Radeon962

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

View PostPigems, on 18 October 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

You never actually quit, you just stop for a little while.

So true.  The next shiny release cycle just conjures up the what is again and the cycle starts all over.

I can agree that it's not as bad for me either as it was a few years back when I would show up to play in my league and the first question was always "let me see what's new in the bag".



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 12:41 PM

M2, epic, 917, now a new m2 with a GD shaft.    This will be the one.   �

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:33 PM

I just like to try new things and like most everyone else has said, they haven't helped me improve (I'm a 7 with the world's worst short game).  Although I can't say I'm done buying, I'm trying to stop. I generally buy my stuff from the same guy at our local Worldwide Golf Shop.  He's a PGA of America pro and after my last purchase (AP3s) he flat out told me that he was willing to sell me anything and everything I want, but I'd improve my game if I'd quit screwing around and stuck with the same clubs for a couple of seasons.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:12 PM

When I realized clubs from 10 years ago I hit as well as anything new.

Also, I haven't been playing much.  Put golf on the back burner and you'll stop obsessing over clubs.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:15 PM

Iím ok with all my clubs except my driver:( itís definitely the clubs fault and not mine
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#90 Jack Pearsall

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 11:06 PM

... oh, his irons are feeling really great these days, so JP is not even looking there (I know! New Titleist and Mizunos, c’mon!)....but JP’s ongoing putter situation is psychologically precarious... it’s part cowardly lion syndrome mixed in with the neediness often found in the soul crushing technological delusion that is golf marketing....driver space is pretty damn good, hooray for miracles but...he feels restlessness with his wedges...there’s been talk. Uncomfortable talk.

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