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Can practicing wedges only mess up swing with long clubs?


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#1 Jackal

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:48 AM

I haven't been to the course in almost  2 weeks.
Yet, every night we've been practicing wedges for almost an hour.
Yesterday I took some practice swings with a 4 wood, and it felt weird and hit the ground behind the tee. (We don't  have enough  space to practice long clubs).
Should  I go to a range and hit my long clubs?
Will  grooving a wedge swing mess up my long game?


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:51 AM

Obvious answer is to practice with all clubs, or at least a wider variety of clubs than just wedges.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:17 AM

View PostJackal, on 12 October 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

I haven't been to the course in almost  2 weeks.
Yet, every night we've been practicing wedges for almost an hour.
Yesterday I took some practice swings with a 4 wood, and it felt weird and hit the ground behind the tee. (We don't  have enough  space to practice long clubs).
Should  I go to a range and hit my long clubs?
Will  grooving a wedge swing mess up my long game?

An old golfing friend of mine, was a believer in the Sand Wedge, as the primary teaching tool for the swing.

No matter what was wrong with your swing, if you went to see Wild Bill for a lesson, this is what he'd say:

"I want you to hit 250 Sand Wedges every day for 2 weeks, then come back and see me".

Lest you think think Wild Bill didn't know what he was talking about, he's the only man in history to win a Stanley Cup (4 times) and play in the U.S. Open Championship (9 times).

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#4 Jackal

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:35 AM

View PostBrianL99, on 12 October 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

View PostJackal, on 12 October 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

I haven't been to the course in almost  2 weeks.
Yet, every night we've been practicing wedges for almost an hour.
Yesterday I took some practice swings with a 4 wood, and it felt weird and hit the ground behind the tee. (We don't  have enough  space to practice long clubs).
Should  I go to a range and hit my long clubs?
Will  grooving a wedge swing mess up my long game?

An old golfing friend of mine, was a believer in the Sand Wedge, as the primary teaching tool for the swing.

No matter what was wrong with your swing, if you went to see Wild Bill for a lesson, this is what he'd say:

"I want you to hit 250 Sand Wedges every day for 2 weeks, then come back and see me".

Lest you think think Wild Bill didn't know what he was talking about, he's the only man in history to win a Stanley Cup (4 times) and play in the U.S. Open Championship (9 times).

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I guess I should  be hitting "full" sand wedges.
Most of our wedge practice  is 30 yards or less.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:53 AM

View PostJackal, on 12 October 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

View PostBrianL99, on 12 October 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

View PostJackal, on 12 October 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

I haven't been to the course in almost  2 weeks.
Yet, every night we've been practicing wedges for almost an hour.
Yesterday I took some practice swings with a 4 wood, and it felt weird and hit the ground behind the tee. (We don't  have enough  space to practice long clubs).
Should  I go to a range and hit my long clubs?
Will  grooving a wedge swing mess up my long game?

An old golfing friend of mine, was a believer in the Sand Wedge, as the primary teaching tool for the swing.

No matter what was wrong with your swing, if you went to see Wild Bill for a lesson, this is what he'd say:

"I want you to hit 250 Sand Wedges every day for 2 weeks, then come back and see me".

Lest you think think Wild Bill didn't know what he was talking about, he's the only man in history to win a Stanley Cup (4 times) and play in the U.S. Open Championship (9 times).

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I guess I should  be hitting "full" sand wedges.
Most of our wedge practice  is 30 yards or less.

Wild Bill used to say that the Sand Wedge was the best teaching tool, because it was heavy enough to promote a good release and you had to make a good pass at the ball, to hit it squarely.  

Just as an aside, I used to have a full set of Whippy Tempomasters.   By far, the hardest club to hit with the whippy shaft, was the Sand Wedge.  If you could hit a Sand Wedge, you could hit anything.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:00 PM

I use a PW . in local ball field several times a week . It's close and I can get an hour of practice and go back to work
Used to think it may be deleterious to full swing , but  found it helpful across the board . Now I will say I mix shots up but work on full swing 75%

No doubt it helps feel the release [ heavier head ]  * the one pitfall for me is to remember  & check swing plane  as I can get steep [ even  OTT] and still hit decent shots  with a PW.
Not so with med - longer clubs
Just practice good mechanics  all should be good

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:02 PM

hmmm,  maybe that's why I driving the ball so poorly?

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:34 PM

I'd take practicing my SW all day over practicing my driver all day...
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:21 PM

Can watch the first few minutes then skip to around the 30:00 mark unless you want to see all the sequence and 3d data.

Basically, your swing can be more "stacked" with the wedges/short irons, and axis tilt becomes more important as you progress into the lower clubs - the wedge swing won't work well with the lower clubs and vice versa. I've taken to do a 4 club range session - pick 4 clubs, say pw, 8i,5i, driver - only rule is you cannot hit any club more than once, so pw,driver,8i,5i, . . .   or pw, driver, pw,  5i, 8i . . .   better than just hitting a full bucket of either.    Can still use one club to do certain drills but would be best to rotate thru different clubs even for 9-3 drills, etc.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:38 PM

View Postjslane57, on 12 October 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

I'd take practicing my SW all day over practicing my driver all day...
I here this! I can't stand hitting drivers at the range.Its so dreadful and the only time I'll do it is before a round to warm up.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:46 PM

View PostJackal, on 12 October 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:


I guess I should  be hitting "full" sand wedges.
Most of our wedge practice  is 30 yards or less.

Just hitting short pitch shots, is not enough to translate to full swings with longer clubs.  Doesn't mean it's not great to hit lots of little wedge shots

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