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PING Vault 2.0 Dalehead Anser (2018 Release)


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#31 ColinKelvin

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:56 AM

I'm lucky enough to have something close to what people are describing here in SS (apologies in advance to anyone who has seen the pics before) - and I would still love Ping to release a proper modern Dalehead Anser with light milling to the market - which I believe would blow the competition out of the water. Like others, I fear it will be plated, or have odd milling, or in some other way be not-quite-right, like every Anser release since the Redwood...

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:57 AM

View Postchris975d, on 04 January 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

View PostUnderPar18, on 04 January 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

I asked Ping last year to make me that Dalehead putter and was told no. I tried probably 10x and was never successful. It’s sad they won’t make a serious putter because they really could put a dent in the putter market if they tried

I'm just not sure of that.  As a club retailer/golf course operator myself, I don't see or hear much demand from the overall golf customer base for Anser style putters anymore.  They typically sit on shelves longer than any other style. It's all mallets and high MOI putters that sell with any serious numbers behind them.  Of course we (golf club afficionados/GolfWRX type people) love Anser/Dalehead styled putters, but the average putter buyer can't tell you the difference between an Anser and Anser 2 styled putter off the top of their head, and usually even after looking at them.

Agree with this fully. My buddies might say "hey you're using a blade putter instead of a mallet" or maybe even "that putter has an insert on the face instead of being just metal". They definitely aren't saying "hey that putter looks like it has rounded bumpers and a slightly thicker topline".

That said, I could see this working if PING using the marketing angle of "the same head shape that you could only get on the PGA tour before"...or something along those lines to say that this is the same headshape as the 009 model without a direct comparison to Scotty.

I'll definitely check it out in stores...I love my Anser 5 milled, so it will be hard to knock that out!

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:40 AM

View Postchris975d, on 04 January 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

View PostUnderPar18, on 04 January 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

I asked Ping last year to make me that Dalehead putter and was told no. I tried probably 10x and was never successful. Itís sad they wonít make a serious putter because they really could put a dent in the putter market if they tried

I'm just not sure of that.  As a club retailer/golf course operator myself, I don't see or hear much demand from the overall golf customer base for Anser style putters anymore.  They typically sit on shelves longer than any other style. It's all mallets and high MOI putters that sell with any serious numbers behind them.  Of course we (golf club afficionados/GolfWRX type people) love Anser/Dalehead styled putters, but the average putter buyer can't tell you the difference between an Anser and Anser 2 styled putter off the top of their head, and usually even after looking at them.

When I said putter market I meant specifically regarding that style putter (my apologies for being very vague). I think a quality milled Dalehead from Ping would make a dent in the Dalehead putter market. That includes customs. Imagine if Ping allowed you to customize a Dalehead with the following:
Headweight
Finish
Milling
Site Lines

I know if done right I wouldnít consider a custom from anybody else. Maybe thatís just me.

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

View PostUnderPar18, on 04 January 2018 - 09:40 AM, said:

View Postchris975d, on 04 January 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

View PostUnderPar18, on 04 January 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

I asked Ping last year to make me that Dalehead putter and was told no. I tried probably 10x and was never successful. It’s sad they won’t make a serious putter because they really could put a dent in the putter market if they tried

I'm just not sure of that.  As a club retailer/golf course operator myself, I don't see or hear much demand from the overall golf customer base for Anser style putters anymore.  They typically sit on shelves longer than any other style. It's all mallets and high MOI putters that sell with any serious numbers behind them.  Of course we (golf club afficionados/GolfWRX type people) love Anser/Dalehead styled putters, but the average putter buyer can't tell you the difference between an Anser and Anser 2 styled putter off the top of their head, and usually even after looking at them.

When I said putter market I meant specifically regarding that style putter (my apologies for being very vague). I think a quality milled Dalehead from Ping would make a dent in the Dalehead putter market. That includes customs. Imagine if Ping allowed you to customize a Dalehead with the following:
Headweight
Finish
Milling
Site Lines

I know if done right I wouldn’t consider a custom from anybody else. Maybe that’s just me.

I kind of assumed you meant that actually.  My point was that the Dalehead market just isn't that big of a market. Very, very few golfers (overall golf population, not the 1% that the members of this site comprise) aren't looking for that anymore.  So it has to be worth PING's investment in setting that up, and I just don't think the sales numbers/data support that it would be.

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 07:06 AM

View PostColinKelvin, on 04 January 2018 - 08:56 AM, said:

I'm lucky enough to have something close to what people are describing here in SS (apologies in advance to anyone who has seen the pics before) - and I would still love Ping to release a proper modern Dalehead Anser with light milling to the market - which I believe would blow the competition out of the water. Like others, I fear it will be plated, or have odd milling, or in some other way be not-quite-right, like every Anser release since the Redwood...

Beautiful! Love to have that in a leftie.

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 08:05 PM

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These are the ZB and Dale Head

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:01 PM

View Postcroy0021, on 07 January 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:



These are the ZB and Dale Head

Iím kinda disappointed in the flange line on the Dale head. I wonder if thereís any chance they will sell one without a line.
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Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:50 PM

View Postcroy0021, on 07 January 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

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These are the ZB and Dale Head

Where's the pic of the copper?
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:19 AM

Can't wait to see all the angles. I'm actually glad they put a line on the Daleheads . No line putters and me are not a good fit.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:41 AM

View Postlawsonman, on 08 January 2018 - 07:19 AM, said:

Can't wait to see all the angles. I'm actually glad they put a line on the Daleheads . No line putters and me are not a good fit.

I'm the same. Looking forward to seeing the copper version.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:02 AM

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:03 AM

Does the new Dalehead come with weights in the sole and if so, what's with the copper color?

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:21 AM

I'm looking forward to more pics of the Dalehead.

Edited by Lil Spanky, 08 January 2018 - 11:22 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:41 AM

View PostPingGuy68, on 07 January 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

View Postcroy0021, on 07 January 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

Posted Image
Posted Image

These are the ZB and Dale Head

Where's the pic of the copper?


Ya need to see more of the dalehead before I make any kind of decision on it. Can't really tell a whole lot from that pic.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:45 AM

seems like a rather thick topline --?

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:15 PM

View Postgioguy21, on 08 January 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

seems like a rather thick topline --?

Thatís part of the Anser Dale Head look.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:18 PM

View PostIvyguy, on 08 January 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 08 January 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

seems like a rather thick topline --?

That's part of the Anser Dale Head look.
...understandably so, i meant, isn't it a bit thick to other people's eyes, or just the photo...?

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:59 PM

I'm liking this special edition putter cover that's on the website:

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:24 PM

I'm hoping we can custom order these without the grooves. I've never been a fan of the newer TR grooves. Can't wait to see the copper versions.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 04:29 PM

View PostIvyguy, on 08 January 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 08 January 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

seems like a rather thick topline --?

Thatís part of the Anser Dale Head look.
I was actually hoping the top line would be even thicker. It looks a bit thinner than my DH89ís.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:59 PM

View Postgioguy21, on 08 January 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

View PostIvyguy, on 08 January 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 08 January 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

seems like a rather thick topline --?

That's part of the Anser Dale Head look.
...understandably so, i meant, isn't it a bit thick to other people's eyes, or just the photo...?

Might be the finish.  Also, the cg/cad type photo that they use is kinda wonky with the artificial lighting.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 09:53 PM

Thanks for the pics! Going from these I doubt there are options for sightline and face milling... unfortunately :(

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

And Ping fails yet again....

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:49 PM

I wouldn't call it a fail. Three different finishes on a milled putter is pretty impressive for the price point. At least wait and see real pictures.

Although I will say I was hoping they would expand the PVD fully-custom line for 2018.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:07 PM

View PostUnderPar18, on 08 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

And Ping fails yet again....
haha see's AH picture - Writes it off completely. Decisive, I like it.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 07:01 AM

View PostUnderPar18, on 08 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

And Ping fails yet again....

Yea, the rest of the OEM's wish they failed as much as Ping. :rolleyes:
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:12 AM

View Postcroy0021, on 07 January 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

I'm kinda disappointed in the flange line on the Dale head. I wonder if there's any chance they will sell one without a line.

View Posttrying2scratch, on 08 January 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

Thanks for the pics! Going from these I doubt there are options for sightline and face milling... unfortunately :(

The previous Vault putters were available with the sight line options through retailers such as Morton's, so I would have to imagine that we will also have the option to customize on the new range as well.  Be willing to bet that you are SOL on the milling though.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:19 PM

Thoughts?

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 06:36 PM

View Postlawsonman, on 09 January 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

View PostUnderPar18, on 08 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

And Ping fails yet again....

Yea, the rest of the OEM's wish they failed as much as Ping. :rolleyes:

When others companies make a better Dalehead than you and your the original... yeah I would say you failed. Look at the Dalehead they made for Lingmerth... thatís a Dalehead, not this cheap crap.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 07:06 PM

The fail, IMO, is yet another line with TR grooves. I’ve been saving my pennies in anticipation for the Dalehead 2.0, but with the TR grooves, I think I’ll pass.  I can maybe get with TR grooves on a cast putter, but not a milled one.  Kills the feel.

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