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#181 jmck

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:27 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:28 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

He has a bright future ahead of him if he wants it.   His focus the last 2 years was clearly not on golf which is ok as real life changes and takes a minute to stabilize.  I predict 2018 will be a very good year for him especially with Tiger back in action.  Equipment is figured out, Tiger is back, married, ... the list goes on.  Rory will win a major next year as will Tiger.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

He has a bright future ahead of him if he wants it.  The last few years especially this year has been unwhelmingly bad for him.  His focus was clearly not on golf which is ok as real life changes and takes a minute to stabilize.  I predict 2018 will be a very good year for Rory especially with Tiger back in action.

He may not have won this year but he still had 8 Top 10s...so it could have been a lot worse.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:00 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

He has a bright future ahead of him if he wants it.   His focus the last 2 years was clearly not on golf which is ok as real life changes and takes a minute to stabilize.  I predict 2018 will be a very good year for him especially with Tiger back in action.  Equipment is figured out, Tiger is back, married, ... the list goes on.  Rory will win a major next year as will Tiger.

Rory possibly. Tiger? No chance in hell

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:14 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

He has a bright future ahead of him if he wants it.   His focus the last 2 years was clearly not on golf which is ok as real life changes and takes a minute to stabilize.  I predict 2018 will be a very good year for him especially with Tiger back in action.  Equipment is figured out, Tiger is back, married, ... the list goes on.  Rory will win a major next year as will Tiger.

I hope you are right!

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:18 PM

View Postcvhookem63, on 12 October 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

He has a bright future ahead of him if he wants it.  The last few years especially this year has been unwhelmingly bad for him.  His focus was clearly not on golf which is ok as real life changes and takes a minute to stabilize.  I predict 2018 will be a very good year for Rory especially with Tiger back in action.

He may not have won this year but he still had 8 Top 10s...so it could have been a lot worse.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:30 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's

Your reality has Tiger winning a major next year tho
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:58 PM

View PostJasonic, on 12 October 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's

Your reality has Tiger winning a major next year tho

If Tiger is healthy he has the same chance of winning a major as Rory.  But Tiger winning is certainly a wish at this point not reality.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 04:17 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

View PostJasonic, on 12 October 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's

Your reality has Tiger winning a major next year tho

If Tiger is healthy he has the same chance of winning a major as Rory.

That's crazy talk.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:06 PM

View PostPZero, on 13 October 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

View PostJasonic, on 12 October 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's

Your reality has Tiger winning a major next year tho

If Tiger is healthy he has the same chance of winning a major as Rory.

That's crazy talk.
Healthy Tiger always has a chance at winning. Problem is, healthy Tiger doesnít really exist anymore.

If Rory sticks to one putter, puts in the hours on the practice green, and cleans up his proximity to the hole from 100-150, he will win a major again. The reason itís easy to doubt him is because he seems to make dumb decisions. He talked a month or so ago about his rib injury, about needing time off, and he proceeded to continue playing every week. He changes putters every week, and complains that long hitters like him have a disadvantage with wedge shots. He just says and does some weird things lately that donít instill confidence. His mind just seems a little out of it.
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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:59 AM

It's all about which country you're marketing in:

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:59 PM

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It's all about which country you're marketing in:

USA= DJ
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Etc.

Why does TM need 2 players from Spain when it's such a small portion of thier turnover?

I doubt  country of origin is in the top 5 things considered when giving tour players money to play gear.

Tiger is from Cablanasia and Nike gave him mucho schillings.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:08 PM

View PostKYMAR, on 14 October 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

View PostJacked_Loft, on 14 October 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

It's all about which country you're marketing in:

USA= DJ
AUS=JD
IRE=RM
SPA=RAHM
GER=KAYMER
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Etc.

Why does TM need 2 players from Spain when it's such a small portion of thier turnover?

I doubt  country of origin is in the top 5 things considered when giving tour players money to play gear.

Tiger is from Cablanasia and Nike gave him mucho schillings.

I agree that this is an exaggerated statement. If you live in Spain, I guarantee that Sergio is still a huge deal compared to Rahm. It's always exciting to have some new youth to spark some fire but, let's face it, that dude had one good year and everyone is way too excited about him. Maybe it's just me, because I really don't like him. Sergio is the biggest thing since Seve in regards to golf in Spain. Sure his career has come up short of most expectations but to say Rahm overtakes Sergio's marketing value in his home country the same year he finally one a major is a bit of a stretch.

I still think too many people aren't using much business logic in regards to this split.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 10:47 PM

View Postxjohnx, on 14 October 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

View PostKYMAR, on 14 October 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

View PostJacked_Loft, on 14 October 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

It's all about which country you're marketing in:

USA= DJ
AUS=JD
IRE=RM
SPA=RAHM
GER=KAYMER
ENG=ROSE
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Etc.

Why does TM need 2 players from Spain when it's such a small portion of thier turnover?

I doubt  country of origin is in the top 5 things considered when giving tour players money to play gear.

Tiger is from Cablanasia and Nike gave him mucho schillings.

I agree that this is an exaggerated statement. If you live in Spain, I guarantee that Sergio is still a huge deal compared to Rahm. It's always exciting to have some new youth to spark some fire but, let's face it, that dude had one good year and everyone is way too excited about him. Maybe it's just me, because I really don't like him. Sergio is the biggest thing since Seve in regards to golf in Spain. Sure his career has come up short of most expectations but to say Rahm overtakes Sergio's marketing value in his home country the same year he finally one a major is a bit of a stretch.

I still think too many people aren't using much business logic in regards to this split.

Ollie winning two Master's was a big deal in Spain.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:01 PM

View Postsoregongolfer, on 14 October 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

View Postxjohnx, on 14 October 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

View PostKYMAR, on 14 October 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

View PostJacked_Loft, on 14 October 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

It's all about which country you're marketing in:

USA= DJ
AUS=JD
IRE=RM
SPA=RAHM
GER=KAYMER
ENG=ROSE
ITY=MOLINARI

Etc.

Why does TM need 2 players from Spain when it's such a small portion of thier turnover?

I doubt  country of origin is in the top 5 things considered when giving tour players money to play gear.

Tiger is from Cablanasia and Nike gave him mucho schillings.

I agree that this is an exaggerated statement. If you live in Spain, I guarantee that Sergio is still a huge deal compared to Rahm. It's always exciting to have some new youth to spark some fire but, let's face it, that dude had one good year and everyone is way too excited about him. Maybe it's just me, because I really don't like him. Sergio is the biggest thing since Seve in regards to golf in Spain. Sure his career has come up short of most expectations but to say Rahm overtakes Sergio's marketing value in his home country the same year he finally one a major is a bit of a stretch.

I still think too many people aren't using much business logic in regards to this split.

Ollie winning two Master's was a big deal in Spain.

Yea but when you're basically a hermit you're not marketable.
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Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:19 AM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 October 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:


Healthy Tiger always has a chance at winning. Problem is, healthy Tiger doesnít really exist anymore.

If Rory sticks to one putter, puts in the hours on the practice green, and cleans up his proximity to the hole from 100-150, he will win a major again. The reason itís easy to doubt him is because he seems to make dumb decisions. He talked a month or so ago about his rib injury, about needing time off, and he proceeded to continue playing every week. He changes putters every week, and complains that long hitters like him have a disadvantage with wedge shots. He just says and does some weird things lately that donít instill confidence. His mind just seems a little out of it.

I’m a huge Rory fan and I 100% agree. He says one thing and does something completely opposite. Maybe the 8 weeks off will clear out the mind and get him refocused.

I do think him playing the last couple weeks was about fulfilling a requirement/ helping a friend and /or Tour and playing the Dunhill with his Dad.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 03:29 AM

It appears to be about cost efficiency. TM is now stand alone so they must have looked at their pro stable and thought....who can we let go with the least issues...Rors, DJ and Day all on expensive recent deals and Tiger was a shocker of a decision..I can see more being pruned as their endorsements must make a massive impact into their costs.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 05:46 PM

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:21 PM

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View PostPZero, on 13 October 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

View PostJasonic, on 12 October 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's

Your reality has Tiger winning a major next year tho

If Tiger is healthy he has the same chance of winning a major as Rory.

That's crazy talk.
Healthy Tiger always has a chance at winning. Problem is, healthy Tiger doesn't really exist anymore.

If Rory sticks to one putter, puts in the hours on the practice green, and cleans up his proximity to the hole from 100-150, he will win a major again. The reason it's easy to doubt him is because he seems to make dumb decisions. He talked a month or so ago about his rib injury, about needing time off, and he proceeded to continue playing every week. He changes putters every week, and complains that long hitters like him have a disadvantage with wedge shots. He just says and does some weird things lately that don't instill confidence. His mind just seems a little out of it.

I've always thought there was something a little off about Rory in that regard. He seems like a fine dude overall but there are so many little odd statements/decisions over the years that make you scratch your head. Whether its the whole Wozniacki business, the three different answers regarding why he didn't play in the Olympics + the trash talking of golf in the Olympics in general, the complete non-answer he gave on the NLU podcast about which aspect of another player's game he'd like to have, various twitter exchanges etc etc. It seems like he has a tough time with the limelight every now and then and should really think about saying less overall.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:27 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

First off Rory's top 10's were mostly back door top 10's where he was out of it and when the pressure was off he breezed around and shot a low round.  Second, he didn't win.  Reality is Rory needs to win to have a good year.  He couldn't care less about top 10's
Based on these numbers there is nothing about the top 10's to belittle. Why is it some players are commended for not quitting and playing hard but then their results are belittled? It's a 72 hole event. The numbers are what they are. Every top 10 is certainly not in contention but is fading and finishing 12th after being tied for the lead after 54 holes somehow better than finishing 8th with a strong finish?

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:32 PM

View PostValtiel, on 22 October 2017 - 06:21 PM, said:


I've always thought there was something a little off about Rory in that regard. He seems like a fine dude overall but there are so many little odd statements/decisions over the years that make you scratch your head. Whether its the whole Wozniacki business, the three different answers regarding why he didn't play in the Olympics + the trash talking of golf in the Olympics in general, the complete non-answer he gave on the NLU podcast about which aspect of another player's game he'd like to have, various twitter exchanges etc etc. It seems like he has a tough time with the limelight every now and then and should really think about saying less overall.
I learned on wrx that all the guys that skipped the Olympics are cheating with the juice. Didn't want the drug testing :)
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:38 PM

View PostJ13, on 09 October 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

Sergio finally wins a major and TM doesn't want to pay him lol.  Certainly looks like he's going to Callaway which i think is a good pick up.  He's now a major winner and i think he's going to win a few more especially THe Open.
It certainly looked like Rory was going to Callaway too. How'd that work out?.....LOL

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:44 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 October 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 October 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Rory washed up at age 28 has got to be the worst reoccurring theme of 2017 golfwrx.com.

He has a bright future ahead of him if he wants it.   His focus the last 2 years was clearly not on golf which is ok as real life changes and takes a minute to stabilize.  I predict 2018 will be a very good year for him especially with Tiger back in action.  Equipment is figured out, Tiger is back, married, ... the list goes on.  Rory will win a major next year as will Tiger.
Can I get some of that s*** you're smoking?......Tiger winning a major?.......You're kidding, right?......LOL


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:47 PM

He had at least one Callaway wedge today.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:48 PM

Sergio was using the one Callaway MD4 during his win last week

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He also went back to his old Tour Preferred TM wedge instead of MG

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And he used his new (new build after he smashed the last one) Toulon Atlanta putter

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:51 PM

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:59 PM

I wonder when SG will announce his new club deal?

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:29 PM

So they can go after Koepka, or sign Rahm to a bigger deal. His deal out of college was pretty basic, I'm sure.....


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