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#1 kmo

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:26 AM

Per Rick Shiels Instagram, Sergio and Taylormade have mutually ended his contract.

Sorry guys this should be in tour talk


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:27 AM

He's signing with Callaway

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:30 AM

Wow that's a surprise.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:31 AM

Not hugely surprised.

Of all the former TMAG guys, he was THE Adidas guy and Taylor Made was almost something of an after thought. Back to Titleist please Sergio!

Edited by MattyO1984, 09 October 2017 - 08:33 AM.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:33 AM

Originally posted this is tour equipment but received a reply that he's moving to Callaway.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:36 AM

So know we might finally get an answer to that eternal question, "which OEM's 8i goes furthest into a lake?"
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

View Postcvhookem63, on 09 October 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

He's signing with Callaway

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No statement from Adidas? I wonder if they are still a sponsor for apparel? Interested in the details. Carry an Adidas bag? And what golf ball will he play?
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

View PostKYMAR, on 09 October 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

Wow that's a surprise.

+1.  Yep, very surprising.  I wonder if the idea was more his or more the new owners of TM?  And if they "mutually ended it," that sure seems to imply there was time left on it, which is really unusual.  Anyone know how many more years he was signed for?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:42 AM

View PostNo Catchy Nickname, on 09 October 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

So know we might finally get an answer to that eternal question, "which OEM's 8i goes furthest into a lake?"

Top pros can throw any club, regardless of brand, age, shaft flex, etc., right on the button.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:42 AM

View PostMattyO1984, on 09 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Not hugely surprised.

Of all the former TMAG guys, he was THE Adidas guy and Taylor Made was almost something of an after thought. Back to Titleist please Sergio!

I agree. And so I wonder if he still with Adidas for apparel, glove/hat and bag

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:43 AM

Sergio finally wins a major and TM doesn't want to pay him lol.  Certainly looks like he's going to Callaway which i think is a good pick up.  He's now a major winner and i think he's going to win a few more especially THe Open.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:50 AM

I am as big of a Garcia fan as you will find, always wanted to play some of the same equipment, just never got along with anything TM very well, other then the TP ball.

I finally found a TM iron I was interested in (790), now he is leaving.  I think maybe I wait now, see what the new Apex Pro's look like.

Can anything really push Mizuno irons out though?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:51 AM

View PostEd Settle, on 09 October 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

View PostMattyO1984, on 09 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Not hugely surprised.

Of all the former TMAG guys, he was THE Adidas guy and Taylor Made was almost something of an after thought. Back to Titleist please Sergio!

I agree. And so I wonder if he still with Adidas for apparel, glove/hat and bag

This is actually going to be more interesting than him moving club brands. I have to imagine that with the TM and Adidas split he has a contract in place with Adidas already and will continue to have them for at least the apparel. Cally, if that's who he's going to, may offer some added incentive to switch the bag over, but who knows.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:00 AM

If he really goes to Callaway and ditches his inferior equipment will he ever win another major?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:03 AM

It's always seemed a little bit odd to me that he carried an Adidas bag when almost all other TM staffers carried the standard TM bag. I'd be surprised if he didn't stick with them for apparel.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:09 AM

Am I the only one that doesn't care?  Or maybe I'm just the only one that doesn't care AND read this thread?
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:11 AM

Moving to Callaway could explain the recent change to a Toulon putter.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:14 AM

View PostNessism, on 09 October 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

Am I the only one that doesn't care?  Or maybe I'm just the only one that doesn't care AND read this thread?

It's the "offseason". What else is there to talk about besides Sergio's new clubs and Si Woo Kim's rear end?
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:19 AM

View Postcvhookem63, on 09 October 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

I'd be surprised if he didn't stick with them for apparel.

I have it on good authority that Sergio will stay with adidas. I would be VERY surprised to see them part ways.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:22 AM

View PostJ13, on 09 October 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

Sergio finally wins a major and TM doesn't want to pay him lol.  Certainly looks like he's going to Callaway which i think is a good pick up.  He's now a major winner and i think he's going to win a few more especially THe Open.
Well probably with Addias Taylormade split Sergio didn't have one contract and Taylormade probably cannot pay him as much as before and Callaway probably approached him with a good size contract and he probably couldnt refuse

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:24 AM

This must mean Callaway is coming out with Apex Pro replacements soon, because I don't see him switching to an MB after playing with the P series CB.

I think what's more interesting and what matters more is what ball he goes with. I would assume Callaway would try to snatch him up for all they can, so potentially Chrome X will be in play for him, along with MD4 wedges, Toulon putter, Apex irons and new "rogue" woods.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:26 AM

I don't think there is any coincidence that this announcement came just a few days after Adidas announced it had completed its separation from TM.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:31 AM

View Postjmck, on 09 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

View PostKYMAR, on 09 October 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

Wow that's a surprise.

+1.  Yep, very surprising.  I wonder if the idea was more his or more the new owners of TM?  And if they "mutually ended it," that sure seems to imply there was time left on it, which is really unusual.  Anyone know how many more years he was signed for?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:32 AM

  • I was at the big golf shop in our area over the weekend and hit quite a few of the new irons.  The one thing that struck me was how similar they all look in their respective categories.  I'd guess, with all the custom work they do to the top guys' clubs, that they could play just about any brand successfully.  The one variable is the driver; that seems to be where the OEM's distinguish themselves now.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

Would have thought PXG

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

Curious to see if he tests the open market for a while w/ a mixed bag, or if he hops straight into a contract w/ someone else...

Also not sure when he's scheduled to play next, so that could have a lot to do with how soon he decides.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:40 AM

View PostNo Catchy Nickname, on 09 October 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

So know we might finally get an answer to that eternal question, "which OEM's 8i goes furthest into a lake?"
Or how many Toulon putters one can break in a year!!

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Putters: Piretti Bosa Black Oxide, SS Counter Core Mid Slim 2.0
Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft/Srixon Zstar, Titleist AVX all in yellow
Bag/Cart: '18 Ping Hoofer/Clicgear 3.5+
Accesories: Garmin G8/Bushnell Tour V4

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#28 OffTheDole

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:42 AM

View Postcvhookem63, on 09 October 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

I don't think there is any coincidence that this announcement came just a few days after Adidas announced it had completed its separation from TM.

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ADIDAS COMPLETES DIVESTITURE OF TAYLORMADE, ADAMS GOLF AND ASHWORTH
adidas announced today that effective October 2nd it has formally completed the previously announced divestiture of its TaylorMade, Adams Golf and Ashworth golf brands to a newly formed affiliate of KPS Capital Partners, LP.

With TM selling to the private equity company for ~$425M, it's likely the new owners are evaluating their equipment deals with a lot more scrutiny now that there's no intangible value from brand synergies (TM + adidas).

While Sergio is OWGR #11 and fresh off a Masters victory, he's no spring chicken (37) and doesn't appear to move the needle as much as DJ and Rory.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:47 AM

View PostJordan Speeth, on 09 October 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

  • I was at the big golf shop in our area over the weekend and hit quite a few of the new irons.  The one thing that struck me was how similar they all look in their respective categories.  I'd guess, with all the custom work they do to the top guys' clubs, that they could play just about any brand successfully.  The one variable is the driver; that seems to be where the OEM's distinguish themselves now.


There's also the way that certain balls spin (more/less) off of various manufacturer's clubs, so that becomes a fun part of the discussion as well given that Squeegio is not exactly a low spin guy.
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Titleist 917F3 15* Graphite Design AD-DI 7X black
Titleist T-MB 2i Graphite Design AD-95X Utility/Driving iron
Titleist 714 MB 4-9 True Temper TI X100 or Cally RazrX MB 4-9 True Temper TI X100
Vokey SM5, 52.08, 56.10, 60.08 True Temper TI S400
Byron DH89 or Piretti Proto

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:52 AM

Glad for him. Wonder what he can do with some really good wedges and irons ?  I kid the TM faithful. lol

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17 M1 14.5  Tour issue Graphite Design   AD DI 8X
  **Testing **  Tour Issue TM GAPR 2 iron w/ Graphite Design ADDI 105X
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