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#1 uW0tM8

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:33 PM

So I'm one of those paranoid red-heads who is constantly trying to find the best and safest sunscreen to use while on the course. The EWG and many other online sources are convinced that chemical ingredients such as Oxybenzone are the devil and will give you cancer and cause hormone imbalances amongst other things. On the flip side, I've read a few different scientific journals and studies saying that Oxybenzone is one of the most effective ingredients at blocking UVA and UVB rays, and is completely safe; that the amount of Oxybenzone you'd need to apply to your skin to cause issues is an amount you couldn't obtain in your lifetime.

Does anyone have some input on this? For those who use a chemical sunscreen, how long have you used it? Have you had any instances of skin cancer?

I've been using Blue Lizard Sensitive sunscreen and I think it's awesome, but I still end up with a very minor pink tint to my skin sometimes, particularly my neck. If a chemical sunscreen like Blue Lizard Sport would help me not get burned at all and isn't going to harm me, I'd definitely be interested in it.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:56 PM

I use Coppertone or the Walgreen's brand of sunscreen in the spray bottle.  I figure the probability of getting cancer with it is a lot lower than without it.  Maybe there is something better but I'm only interested in taking adequate protection.  It's not like there are lots of people getting skin cancer and blaming the run of the mill sunscreen.  Or if there are, I've not heard of them.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 11:02 PM

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I use Coppertone or the Walgreen's brand of sunscreen in the spray bottle.  I figure the probability of getting cancer with it is a lot lower than without it.  Maybe there is something better but I'm only interested in taking adequate protection.  It's not like there are lots of people getting skin cancer and blaming the run of the mill sunscreen.  Or if there are, I've not heard of them.
See, I agree with you as well. I see so many people use chemical sunscreen, and don't know anyone with reproductive problems, hormone problems, or skin cancer. I think you're more likely to get it from not wearing sunscreen and burning constantly.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:43 AM

View PostuW0tM8, on 07 October 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

So I'm one of those paranoid red-heads who is constantly trying to find the best and safest sunscreen to use while on the course. The EWG and many other online sources are convinced that chemical ingredients such as Oxybenzone are the devil and will give you cancer and cause hormone imbalances amongst other things. On the flip side, I've read a few different scientific journals and studies saying that Oxybenzone is one of the most effective ingredients at blocking UVA and UVB rays, and is completely safe; that the amount of Oxybenzone you'd need to apply to your skin to cause issues is an amount you couldn't obtain in your lifetime.

Does anyone have some input on this? For those who use a chemical sunscreen, how long have you used it? Have you had any instances of skin cancer?

I've been using Blue Lizard Sensitive sunscreen and I think it's awesome, but I still end up with a very minor pink tint to my skin sometimes, particularly my neck. If a chemical sunscreen like Blue Lizard Sport would help me not get burned at all and isn't going to harm me, I'd definitely be interested in it.

Stick with the Blue Lizard,  The other crap will stain your clothes.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:57 AM

I bought some EltaMD UV Sport Broad-Spectrum from a recommendation in a thread here.  It doesn't stain clothes and works well.  Beyond this I'm ignorant, and planning to stay that way...

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:08 AM

View PostNessism, on 08 October 2017 - 06:57 AM, said:

I bought some EltaMD UV Sport Broad-Spectrum from a recommendation in a thread here.  It doesn't stain clothes and works well.  Beyond this I'm ignorant, and planning to stay that way...
How much does it cost? On Amazon I was seeing 1.7oz for $32; which is pretty steep lol.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:15 AM

Why not just use a Zinc-Oxide based sunscreen?
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:50 AM

View PostPreppySlapCut, on 08 October 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

Why not just use a Zinc-Oxide based sunscreen?
The Blue Lizard Sensitive is Zinc Oxide based; I just still usually get a little pink
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:21 PM

View PostuW0tM8, on 08 October 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

View PostNessism, on 08 October 2017 - 06:57 AM, said:

I bought some EltaMD UV Sport Broad-Spectrum from a recommendation in a thread here.  It doesn't stain clothes and works well.  Beyond this I'm ignorant, and planning to stay that way...
How much does it cost? On Amazon I was seeing 1.7oz for $32; which is pretty steep lol.

$23.50 for 3oz. with free shipping via  https://www.lovelysk...spf-50-tube-3oz

It is on the pricey side but it works great and it is the only thing I have used for my neck/face/ears the past few years.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:36 PM

View Postjwasacz, on 08 October 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

View PostuW0tM8, on 08 October 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

View PostNessism, on 08 October 2017 - 06:57 AM, said:

I bought some EltaMD UV Sport Broad-Spectrum from a recommendation in a thread here.  It doesn't stain clothes and works well.  Beyond this I'm ignorant, and planning to stay that way...
How much does it cost? On Amazon I was seeing 1.7oz for $32; which is pretty steep lol.

$23.50 for 3oz. with free shipping via  https://www.lovelysk...spf-50-tube-3oz

It is on the pricey side but it works great and it is the only thing I have used for my neck/face/ears the past few years.
Thank you for the link! I'll definitely have to give it a try. I just went out for a quick 18 at 5pm and even though the UV index was 3 and was down at 0 by the time I hit 14, I still got pink on my neck. And it was covered with a gaiter lol. Makes me wonder if I'm not actually burned at all and it's something else. Either way, I will give this sunscreen a go!

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:55 PM

I may get flamed, but I sometimes use the neck gaitor things by Patagonia that are used by fly fisherman.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:10 PM

View Postgeochitown, on 09 October 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

I may get flamed, but I sometimes use the neck gaitor things by Patagonia that are used by fly fisherman.


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I use the same thing except I buy from Coolibar. However, my neck is still usually red. No where else is red though. I'm wondering if it's permanent skin damage or maybe some other underlying skin irritation/condition.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:30 AM

View PostuW0tM8, on 07 October 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

So I'm one of those paranoid red-heads who is constantly trying to find the best and safest sunscreen to use while on the course. The EWG and many other online sources are convinced that chemical ingredients such as Oxybenzone are the devil and will give you cancer and cause hormone imbalances amongst other things. On the flip side, I've read a few different scientific journals and studies saying that Oxybenzone is one of the most effective ingredients at blocking UVA and UVB rays, and is completely safe; that the amount of Oxybenzone you'd need to apply to your skin to cause issues is an amount you couldn't obtain in your lifetime.

Does anyone have some input on this? For those who use a chemical sunscreen, how long have you used it? Have you had any instances of skin cancer?

I've been using Blue Lizard Sensitive sunscreen and I think it's awesome, but I still end up with a very minor pink tint to my skin sometimes, particularly my neck. If a chemical sunscreen like Blue Lizard Sport would help me not get burned at all and isn't going to harm me, I'd definitely be interested in it.

I've been using Blue LIzard regular for years. I use "Face" instead of aftershave daily. My wife's dermatologist even told her it was the best out there. Her best friend has a daughter with serious skin issues and that's what her dermatologist recommended as well. Just make sure you put it on heavy 20-30 minutes before you play.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:35 AM

View Postjwasacz, on 08 October 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

View PostuW0tM8, on 08 October 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

View PostNessism, on 08 October 2017 - 06:57 AM, said:

I bought some EltaMD UV Sport Broad-Spectrum from a recommendation in a thread here.  It doesn't stain clothes and works well.  Beyond this I'm ignorant, and planning to stay that way...
How much does it cost? On Amazon I was seeing 1.7oz for $32; which is pretty steep lol.

$23.50 for 3oz. with free shipping via  https://www.lovelysk...spf-50-tube-3oz

It is on the pricey side but it works great and it is the only thing I have used for my neck/face/ears the past few years.

I paid $15 for 3oz off Amazon.  The price has shot way up on that stuff.

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Edited by Nessism, 10 October 2017 - 07:39 AM.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:57 AM

A couple of the chemical ingredients turn my skin red and inflamed. At first I thought I was getting sunburned so I tried using more and more to no avail.

Then one day I applied the sunscreen and ended up not going to play golf. Turned me red and itchy even with almost no sun exposure. Light bulb moment.

Now I use one with a couple of chemicals but mostly a lot of zinc and titanium oxides. Can't remember the names of the two ingredients that were doing me wrong, sorry.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:01 AM

I too am a ginger. EltaMd is the one my Dermotologest recommended.  Basically anything that has zinc or titanium dioxide are best. They provide a physical barrier where other sun screens provide a chemical protection.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:07 AM

For head and neck I use Coppertone Clearly Sheer. It just feels like lotion and not like your trying to spread toothpaste over yourself.

For everywhere else I use the regular Coppertone SPF 30.

I'm a bit biased as I work at the plant that compounds and bottles it.

We have compounders that have been mixing these active ingredients for 30 years 10 hours a day 5-7 days a week. If there were any health issues  I'm sure it would have come up by now.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:09 AM

The one I've settled on these past couple years is called "Coppertone Kids Tear Free Zinc Sunscreen Lotion - SPF 50" and it has zinc oxide but not titanium oxide (thought I remembered it did). It also has two chemical ingredients Octinoxate and Octisalate.

It's not very expensive at places like Target, Walmart, Walgreens, CVS but you can sometimes find a store brand with the same ingredient for even cheaper. The only difference I've found with the store brands is the CVS one is slightly thinner and runnier making it a bit more mess to apply.

But anyway that one is widely available, affordable and seems to treat my sensitive skin very gently while maintaining protection through a full round of golf except during the very sweatiest weeks of July and August when I occasionally have to re-apply.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:11 AM

My wife is an avid golfer and we often play together almost every weekend.  She recently had a bout of 'skin cancer' on her nose, they took it out and gouged a 1/4-inch hole that they stitched up (10 stiches) and did a very nice job, but uses several brands of sunscreen including one recommended by the skin cancer doctor (forgot the brand), as well as a 'skinceuticle' and Aveeno. From what I've read, not all sunblocks provide the protection they advertise. My best recommendation, consult a dermatologist at what is a proven sunblock.

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So I'm one of those paranoid red-heads who is constantly trying to find the best and safest sunscreen to use while on the course. The EWG and many other online sources are convinced that chemical ingredients such as Oxybenzone are the devil and will give you cancer and cause hormone imbalances amongst other things. On the flip side, I've read a few different scientific journals and studies saying that Oxybenzone is one of the most effective ingredients at blocking UVA and UVB rays, and is completely safe; that the amount of Oxybenzone you'd need to apply to your skin to cause issues is an amount you couldn't obtain in your lifetime.

Does anyone have some input on this? For those who use a chemical sunscreen, how long have you used it? Have you had any instances of skin cancer?

I've been using Blue Lizard Sensitive sunscreen and I think it's awesome, but I still end up with a very minor pink tint to my skin sometimes, particularly my neck. If a chemical sunscreen like Blue Lizard Sport would help me not get burned at all and isn't going to harm me, I'd definitely be interested in it.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:25 PM

Great thread.

My wife is a melanoma survivor, and fellow golfer, so this is a big deal in our house.We both have sensitive Irish skin, and she only buys Neutrogena.  It works well, and I never get any color of consequence.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:04 PM

I use Golfersskin, best one i have ever used. It goes on nicely and dry in seconds, haven't been burnt since i started using it.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:09 PM

I put a bottle of the spray sunscreen in my bag, its whatever my wife buys for me.  Pretty sure its copperstone sport

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:18 AM

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#24 nitram

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:58 AM

My wife and I are both golfers and just really "outdoorsy" folks. She's had some melanoma issues and we both have had enough "items" frozen off to qualify for good customer discounts LOL. Anyway, when we asked our dermatologist, he agreed with Blue Lizard being a top-notch sunscreen. We buy 'Skinceuticals" from him for the face and lately we've been using the Coppertone "Whipped" which he endorsed as well, when we don't have ready access to the Lizard.

Edited by nitram, 14 October 2017 - 08:49 PM.

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