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#1 Carvallo Golf

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:09 PM

Prior to this season I never really considered this a viable option.  Then I saw several PGA tour players this season (from highlights) hitting driver off the deck...Si Woo @ the players, Sneds @ the memorial, Leishman & Sergio @ Bay Hill.

Shortly thereafter, the golf channel morning drive did a segment on it with Cooky and DiMarco.  They had gave some great tips on how and when to do it(ball sitting up, uphill lie, open front of green, play a cut, etc).

My home course has one Par 5 that is uphill and plays predominantly into the wind, 570 yds from back tee.  It has bugged me for the longest time that I have never been able to get down in 2.  So I made an effort to practice the shot on the range and try putting it into play.

The results....well I still haven't put a ball on that particular par 5 in 2, but the results of me developing a new skill have been rewarded nicely.

I have attempted the driver off the deck 14 times(not all on same hole) this season in play.  Here are my results:

1 ball hit trees, it was a bad decision to play. I had pulled my drive to the left side of fairway(dogleg left) and I had narrow gap to hit through 2 trees cutting off corner of dogleg.  Ball was struck well but bad decision and terrible result.

12 birdies, a result of either landing on the green in 2(not my nemesis par 5) or getting up and down.  2 of those shots I thought were going to land short and find the green on my nemesis par 5, but bounced left/straight instead of following the cutting trajectory which would have put them on the green

1 par save after driving OB off the tee and then playing conservative to make sure I got in play.  The next shot was 310 yds prayer shot but I flushed it and ball landed about 270 and chased up pin high 20 ft right and one putted for par... totally made my week.

Conclusion, I'm really glad I tried this out and wish I did this years ago.


I couldn't be more pleased with how this has all worked out.

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#2 Moonlightgrm

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:36 PM

What are your driver specs?

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:47 PM

There's a few guys at my club that can pull it off with good results, but I've never practiced it, never hit it as far as I can my 3 wood. Great that it works for you.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:56 PM

Leave it to the tour players. I see people try this and 95% of the time the results are a disaster. This why we carry lofted woods.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 08:38 PM

View PostMoonlightgrm, on 06 October 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

What are your driver specs?

Taylormade R7 TP 8.5, 44.5"
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Normal carry off tee 285-295
Carry off the deck 260-270...keep in mind my setup off the deck is open face, open stance.


Also I do not carry 3 wood, my 4 wood is 250 yard carry and can chase it 265-270 max.

Edited by Carvallo Golf, 06 October 2017 - 08:39 PM.

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Fwy Woods: undecided at the moment
Irons: 1974 Hogan Director 2-9 all custom length and lofts(21-48 deg)
Wedges: Cobra One length 54&60 deg w/TT DG X100
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Ball: TP5 (bye bye bridgestone)

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:37 PM

View Postelwhippy, on 06 October 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

Leave it to the tour players. I see people try this and 95% of the time the results are a disaster. This why we carry lofted woods.

That is exactly how I used to think.  One of the tips from cooky and DiMarco was to master the shot on the range before taking it to the course.
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Ball: TP5 (bye bye bridgestone)

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:42 PM

Seems like driver on the fairway was more commonly practiced in the persimmon era.  I remember seeing Arnold Palmer pulling off some amazing stingers from the fairway.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:38 PM

I feel like it'd be safer or smarter just to throw a strong 3 wood (13.5º) in the bag since, according to your signature, you have room for one more club.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:48 PM

Sorry Sneds was from colonial

https://youtu.be/VPwFAqnqePw

I can't find link to morning drive segment but I found this: https://youtu.be/0CjCbMYucPY

What you see in the video was pretty much what cooky and DiMarco were talking about except they said don't rule out the rough if the lie is right and don't be afraid to open up your setup and face for more loft.

#1 thing they stressed was lie assessment.  If you aren't 100% sure you can get a clean strike on the ball with minimal grass/debris between the ball and club face, DO NOT ATTEMPT.

I tried to find some old Arnold Palmer footage on YouTube.  Hardly anything.  I remember one from one of the last times he made the cut at bay hill and was playing Sunday. ..Stinger cut driver off the deck to set up an eagle.  Total legend

Edited by Carvallo Golf, 07 October 2017 - 03:41 PM.

Current WITB:
Driver: Taylormade R7 TP 8.5
Fwy Woods: undecided at the moment
Irons: 1974 Hogan Director 2-9 all custom length and lofts(21-48 deg)
Wedges: Cobra One length 54&60 deg w/TT DG X100
Putter: Slotline HMI w/Superstroke Slim 3.0
Ball: TP5 (bye bye bridgestone)

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:13 PM

I remember seeing some training video about this and it was the same
as you mentioned in it being lie dependent with the ball sitting up.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:06 AM

 Thug Hunter, on 06 October 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

I feel like it'd be safer or smarter just to throw a strong 3 wood (13.5ļ) in the bag since, according to your signature, you have room for one more club.

Yes I'm in the middle of a change and a strong 3 wood is one of the top candidates
Current WITB:
Driver: Taylormade R7 TP 8.5
Fwy Woods: undecided at the moment
Irons: 1974 Hogan Director 2-9 all custom length and lofts(21-48 deg)
Wedges: Cobra One length 54&60 deg w/TT DG X100
Putter: Slotline HMI w/Superstroke Slim 3.0
Ball: TP5 (bye bye bridgestone)

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 09:44 AM

It's getting more difficult to get the ball off the ground with the newer drivers.
Larger head and higher sweet spot on the face made it tough for slower swing speed to get the golf ball airborne.  Golfer with higher swing speed will have no problem trying out all kinds of golf shots.

I stopped decking the driver after the Ping TiSi Tec , think it was 2005/2006 season ?   Higher sweet spot on the face will likely produce lots of worm burners.  I like to get the decked driver up with a little fade .  Very difficult to produce that without a higher swing speed and a very stiff shaft.  The light weight trend in the recent year also not helping.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:43 AM

I have 2 PIng drivers, so when I take my G30 driver with me, which is a 12*, I may use it off the deck depending on the circumstances of the lie and distance needed. It works fine for me, just choke down as always, squat a bit, and make sure to keep a nice slow rhythm, not thinking about hitting hard, but letting the club do its job, just like any other fairway wood...
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 09:34 PM

Driver off the deck is not really about distance for me. Itís about trajectory control. I donít carry 3 wood my driver is a 13.5* adjusted to 12.5*. If and when I need to I can hit it off the deck as well as my spoon. Off the tee from time to time Iíd do the Laura Davies thing, Iíd smack the ground with  Sw to make a little mound place the balloon to like itís on a low tee.  The ball would come out straight and low that runs a lot. Off the deck usually produce low fade.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 01:00 AM

I have a buddy who is a 16 handicap and he tries to do this all the time. I've been playing with him for 35 years and have seen him pull it off maybe 3-4 times.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:38 AM

Just any mchatton coaching videos, he has some dvds for sale as well

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:19 AM

Sergio masterclass at the UK Masters last month, driver off the deck/matt............wow!

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:05 AM

Love it. Not really a top priority for 99% of folks to learn but I love it.

For me though - the percentage shot is a flighted 3 wood. On average I'm not getting more out of the driver off the deck. Hitting a bullet 3 wood isn't easy either, but its easier than a driver off the deck, and for me, less likely to go off the planet right.

All of that said, if the conditions are right, its often a shot to nothing. What I mean by that is, I'm 300 out, no trouble anywhere and I'm into a strong wind. As long as I don't top it 50 yards - its gonna play OK and probably worth the risk.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 07:31 AM

It's just another club, use it when the shot dictates it. For some of us older guys, "Driver" was just your #1 wood and you used it whenever you needed it. Certainly rarer now that the driver has become a full blown clown toy but it's still a fun shot to pull off ever so often.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:38 AM

Stupid for average golfers.Heads are way too big these days and it requires an absolutely perfect hit.....and for what?...an extra 20 yards?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:19 AM

Can't for the life of me figure out how you guys are getting those kind of carry numbers with a modern driver off the deck. I carry my driver about 270-275 off a tee on a solid strike, but think I would be lucky to get 220 carry off the deck with it. Unless the ground is rock hard that won't help too much.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:35 AM

It's a good shot to know how to play. I've only hit it twice this year. Shot conditions have to be perfect or it's just a wasted shot with 3woods now going 270 off the deck.

Great shot to have for a long par 5 into the wind with no trouble right and an open front part of the green.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:57 AM

I use it a lot. Its probably close to three wood distance at best, more than likely a bit shorter.

But it's very predictable, a low, hard running cut. One hole at home is probably where I use it the most. Mid length par five with OB left and heavy trees right that overhang the fairway. Many drives end up just in the right rough. I can aim driver right at the fairway bunker that is normally around 200 yards from where I am. The ball stays under the branchs,cuts off the bunker and ends up in the fairway with a short shot in.

It's not 100%, but pretty reliable.   FWIW, it's a TM M1 440. I only use the shot when it's completely open in front.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:52 PM

My FT-9 is great off the fairway. It's even pretty good out of divots. I've been pin high on a par5 hitting a hook with it off an uphill lie. It's the rest of the bag...

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 05:29 PM

Sweetspot is too high now to hit off the ground.  
It can be done but ball better be sitting up really nice and requires a descending blow


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 06:03 PM

View PostMoonlightgrm, on 06 October 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

What are your driver specs?
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 06:32 PM

Well i can't hit my 3w for s***, might have to try this next time lol.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 06:33 PM

Most people don't even hit driver off deck further than 3 wood and error margin is dramatically smaller. Pointless shot for 99.9999 % of golfers, tour pros included. Basically any time driver off the deck is the play a 3 wood is better
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:24 PM

Last 3 Scramble tournaments 3 out of 3 tries,  no good drives on a par 5 had to take the shortest one.  probably 270+ from the green.... had to have had about 1 or 2 beers per hole when I made the decision to go for it...... no danger open fairways was in rough so I could "fluff" it a little....... probably landed some 50 yards short of the green... but it got us closer?


regular round of golf?  I dont think I have ever tried it..... never had a reason to do it..... didnt play the round for a job, didnt play it for significant money,  my life or family members was not on the line, I do not get paid or TV spots to hit driver off the deck..... so..... yeah no real reason to embarrass myself any more than I do already.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:44 PM

99% of the time the PGA Tour guys hit a 460cc driver off the deck, it's a dumb choice. That means everyone that hits driver off the deck that isn't a tour pro is making a dumb choice 99.999999999999999999% of the time.

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