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New Callaway Driver/Woods: ROGUE (pic added page 9)

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:43 PM

The fairway woods are going to blow people’s mind. Sound and performance are phenomenal. Wedges are awesome. The black finish is my favorite.


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:31 PM

Md4's have positive grooves too. Highest spinning wedge available out of the rough.

New ball is urethane and has graphene. Ive used it and It's awesome!

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:04 PM

This thread has definitely piqued my interest, especially the info on the new ball.

The Epic has been a great driver, but sound and feel could be better.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:14 PM

what will the fairways look like?

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:20 PM

 rgk5, on 08 October 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

 TheMoneyShot, on 06 October 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Will this be their new flagship driver or will that remain with the Epic?

My guess is a replacement for the Fusion.

Fusion replacement will be fall 2018 (came out Oct '16).  This is XR replacement.  Cally is on a 2 yr cycle.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:27 PM

Another one already? Sheesh

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:14 PM

 ImChrisBosh, on 08 October 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Another one already? Sheesh

It's been 2 years since the XR16 came out.
The difference with Callaway is they have 3 lines that are all on a 2 year cycle:

Xhot/XR (Jan 2016 & 2018)
V-Series/Fusion (Oct 2016/2018)
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Edited by erock9174, 08 October 2017 - 07:15 PM.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:15 PM

Don't trust the cycles anymore.  If they were following cycles, then we'd be seeing new Apex and Apex Pro irons right now.   I think they are trying to stretch the cycles now.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:01 PM

Photos???
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:50 AM

 erock9174, on 08 October 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

 ImChrisBosh, on 08 October 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Another one already? Sheesh

It's been 2 years since the XR16 came out.
The difference with Callaway is they have 3 lines that are all on a 2 year cycle:

Xhot/XR (Jan 2016 & 2018)
V-Series/Fusion (Oct 2016/2018)
GBB/Epic (Jan 2017/2019)

Are the 3 lines aimed at different players?  Or is it all for one kind of thing.  Was thinking of getting an Epic driver but didn't know if I should hold out.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

 J13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.

Since I trust your info infinitely more than other people's on here, is that list accurate? Specifically, the Epic being refreshed?

It looks accurate from what i know.  I've only gotten bits a pieces, haven't really tried to pry to much into the new stuff.  I do know the fairway woods are supposed to be the big thing in the next release.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:44 AM

 J13, on 09 October 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

 J13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.

Since I trust your info infinitely more than other people's on here, is that list accurate? Specifically, the Epic being refreshed?

It looks accurate from what i know.  I've only gotten bits a pieces, haven't really tried to pry to much into the new stuff.  I do know the fairway woods are supposed to be the big thing in the next release.

Will the new fairway woods be a deeper face compared to the Epic?
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

 Hot Rod 71, on 08 October 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

This thread has definitely piqued my interest, especially the info on the new ball.

The Epic has been a great driver, but sound and feel could be better.

The new ball really has my attention!
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:15 PM

I'm not convinced jailbreak can do anything in a fairway head. I bet they'd do it just ride the wave and the buzz.

Aslo, really hoping the headcovers don't suck.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:54 PM

 Travis Duckro, on 09 October 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

 erock9174, on 08 October 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

 ImChrisBosh, on 08 October 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Another one already? Sheesh

It's been 2 years since the XR16 came out.
The difference with Callaway is they have 3 lines that are all on a 2 year cycle:

Xhot/XR (Jan 2016 & 2018)
V-Series/Fusion (Oct 2016/2018)
GBB/Epic (Jan 2017/2019)

Are the 3 lines aimed at different players?  Or is it all for one kind of thing.  Was thinking of getting an Epic driver but didn't know if I should hold out.

Just different families the only line that is different for older gents/gals or people who want a lighter combo is the Fusion/V series/Epic Star.

Other than those it is really what head suits you.. next year the family will have something for everyone.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:55 PM

 GC70, on 09 October 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

 J13, on 09 October 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

 J13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.

Since I trust your info infinitely more than other people's on here, is that list accurate? Specifically, the Epic being refreshed?

It looks accurate from what i know.  I've only gotten bits a pieces, haven't really tried to pry to much into the new stuff.  I do know the fairway woods are supposed to be the big thing in the next release.

Will the new fairway woods be a deeper face compared to the Epic?

It's a little deeper, but not much. It is true XR is done, but rogue replaces epic as I stated earlier.
From my source the fairway is supposed to be the best thing to fairways since RBZ hit he market.
However, I have not hit the fairway at this point in time since I couldn't flip shafts and give it a fair test.
Got a second round in with the new ball and it is very solid. Haven't noticed ballspeed as much since I haven't hit it on a monitor, but greenside the spin seems to be better.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:56 PM

 xjohnx, on 09 October 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:


Aslo, really hoping the headcovers don't suck.

Oh, they will!
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:57 PM

 xjohnx, on 09 October 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

I'm not convinced jailbreak can do anything in a fairway head. I bet they'd do it just ride the wave and the buzz.

Aslo, really hoping the headcovers don't suck.

Not my cup of tea, but not terrible. It's basically an epic HC with the green replaced with steel blue.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:58 PM

 GC70, on 09 October 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

 J13, on 09 October 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

 J13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.

Since I trust your info infinitely more than other people's on here, is that list accurate? Specifically, the Epic being refreshed?

It looks accurate from what i know.  I've only gotten bits a pieces, haven't really tried to pry to much into the new stuff.  I do know the fairway woods are supposed to be the big thing in the next release.

Will the new fairway woods be a deeper face compared to the Epic?

They have to be in order for the jailbreak to work or they would have came out in the epics fw.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:59 PM

 6thFairway, on 08 October 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

Don't trust the cycles anymore.  If they were following cycles, then we'd be seeing new Apex and Apex Pro irons right now.   I think they are trying to stretch the cycles now.

Trust me, they were suppose to be pulled out of the rotation but their success/popularity is why they are still around.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:06 PM

 GC70, on 09 October 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

 J13, on 09 October 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

 J13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

 DRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.

Since I trust your info infinitely more than other people's on here, is that list accurate? Specifically, the Epic being refreshed?

It looks accurate from what i know.  I've only gotten bits a pieces, haven't really tried to pry to much into the new stuff.  I do know the fairway woods are supposed to be the big thing in the next release.

It's a little deeper, but not much. It is true XR is done, but rogue replaces epic as I stated earlier.
From my source the fairway is supposed to be the best thing to fairways since RBZ hit he market.
However, I have not hit the fairway at this point in time since I couldn't flip shafts and give it a fair test.
Got a second round in with the new ball and it is very solid. Haven't noticed ballspeed as much since I haven't hit it on a monitor, but greenside the spin seems to be better.

Wait! That's HUGE, Rogue is replacing Epic???
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:16 PM

 DRRicks, on 09 October 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:



Wait! That's HUGE, Rogue is replacing Epic???

That's the first I've heard that and it contradicts ALL other info we've all been told up to now.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:24 PM

DRRicks,

If you're going to say it, say it right. That's totally YUUUUGE!!!! Making Callaway great again!

Edited by Striker Ace, 09 October 2017 - 02:25 PM.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 03:12 PM

Can t believe they would replace the Epic... it's been out 9 months. This must be the XR replacement... also what about the new Steelhead fairways? Where do they fit? Will they go too?


Edited by nic19, 09 October 2017 - 03:13 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 03:17 PM

 nic19, on 09 October 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

Can t believe they would replace the Epic... it's been out 9 months. This must be the XR replacement... also what about the new Steelhead fairways? Where do they fit? Will they go too?

Epic line is not being replaced the XR line is.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 03:39 PM

 J13, on 09 October 2017 - 03:17 PM, said:

 nic19, on 09 October 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

Can t believe they would replace the Epic... it's been out 9 months. This must be the XR replacement... also what about the new Steelhead fairways? Where do they fit? Will they go too?

Epic line is not being replaced the XR line is.

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4-PW: TaylorMade P770, Nippon Modus Tour 105
GW: TaylorMade MG 50.09, Nippon Modus Tour 105
SW: TaylorMade MG 54.09, DG115
LW: TaylorMade Hi Toe 60 LB, DG 115
Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Red/Black, TaylorMade TP Juno
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X

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#87 dave_3

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:13 PM

 J13, on 09 October 2017 - 03:17 PM, said:

 nic19, on 09 October 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

Can t believe they would replace the Epic... it's been out 9 months. This must be the XR replacement... also what about the new Steelhead fairways? Where do they fit? Will they go too?

Epic line is not being replaced the XR line is.

i cant see them replacing the epic brand either.   that'd be like McDonald's getting rid of the BigMac

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:22 PM

Rogue is not replacing epic. Plain and simple.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:50 PM

I have been in two pro shops in UK in last 24 hours and both were discounting EPIC woods.  Could be a connection......
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                EPIC driver, 3 and 5 wood
                G25 4 hybrid
                G400 crossover 5 iron and 6-W ie1 irons
                Scotty GoLo 3
                Vokey 50 & 54 with 58 PM grind

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

Callaway rep was in the shop today with all new stuff:

Irons were what got my attention, New blades, x forged, x forged ut [my favorite, more compact] all these can be seen in pros bags now.

The driver is the rogue, gloss top, dark blue instead of green accents.

Putters o works... the only thing that looked different was they put the jailbird back in the line up, both black and red.

Dig up some dirt
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