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New Callaway Driver/Woods: ROGUE (pic added page 9)

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:11 PM

Odyssey putters have a new O-Works face. Tour feedback was the old face was too quiet so they revamped the face to make it sound firmer. Think original white hot sound.

RX Line is done. Odyssey is sticking with the O-Works line up in black + red or WBW BWB. Every red option will be available with 2 hosel types. Here's a WILD ONE, there was NO #9 in the catalog!!!

Callaway got annoyed that TM was getting attention for a red putter when on any given week 50-70% of the tour is Odyssey. When it rains, it's red!

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:50 PM

View Postmisplacedtexan83, on 06 October 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

what Rock brings to Callaway balls ( nike platinum, etc were awesome)

Man, I had forgotten about that. I still love the last gen Nike balls. Bought up a bunch on discount and still gaming them.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 05:03 PM

Bit confused as the guy who posted the other thread was confident that it was called ''Omega" and had photos. Maybe that was a prototype?

Rogue seems like a very weird choice of name given the shafts of the same name.

Either way, the name isn't too important. It could be called "Hobgoblin" and I'd probably still buy one.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 05:49 PM

View PostGary Gutful, on 06 October 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

Bit confused as the guy who posted the other thread was confident that it was called ''Omega" and had photos. Maybe that was a prototype?

Rogue seems like a very weird choice of name given the shafts of the same name.

Either way, the name isn't too important. It could be called "Hobgoblin" and I'd probably still buy one.

Wait, what other thread??
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:23 PM

View PostGary Gutful, on 06 October 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

Bit confused as the guy who posted the other thread was confident that it was called ''Omega" and had photos. Maybe that was a prototype?

Rogue seems like a very weird choice of name given the shafts of the same name.

Either way, the name isn't too important. It could be called "Hobgoblin" and I'd probably still buy one.

That was me, I have been told it was the Omega by the guys I know in the tour department.  There is always a possibility that the marketing department changed the name before it gets to retail.  The pictures I took of the prototype fairway woods were from a couple months ago and only had XR etched into the bottom.  I know I saw the final version of the Epic this time last year, but I haven't seen the final version of this new one yet.  

I'll try and see what else I can find out!

**I will share the pictures I have of the fairway as soon as they are released so you know I am not pulling what I know out of thin air lol

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:34 PM

Will this be their new flagship driver or will that remain with the Epic?

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:38 PM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 06 October 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Will this be their new flagship driver or will that remain with the Epic?

Epic will remain the flagship, this will be the XR replacement.  However from what I know, ball speeds are supposed to be up 1-2mph over the Epic, so don't be surprised to see tour players switch, but will have less adjustability (no fade/draw on driver and bonded hosel fairways).

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:14 PM

These sound really nice and what you would expect as a step down version of the Epic. If the fairways and hybrids sit square they could be awesome. I prefer a bonded hosel on fw and hyb.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 12:07 AM

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 10:14 PM, said:

These sound really nice and what you would expect as a step down version of the Epic. If the fairways and hybrids sit square they could be awesome. I prefer a bonded hosel on fw and hyb.

They're not really a step down, just a bit different tech in the jailbreak and no moveable weight on the driver. The fairways sit square to slightly open, but this is all dependent on whether you're left or right eye dominant, which I think we forget on here sometimes.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 04:59 AM

If Ishii is going to do Cally balls then RIP Chrome Soft....the last few years Nike balls were clicky and hard....and sold like stale bread.


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Posted 07 October 2017 - 05:18 AM

The driver has a 17% larger footprint?

No thanks.

I will be happy to stick with my Epic stuff unless there is a 440 version of the driver.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

........please don't mess with the Chromesoft

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM

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Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:28 AM

Hybrid and Fairways both have jailbreak this time. There is some word of a new "curved jailbreak" in the driver, but unconfirmed. These are replacing Epic and Epic pricepoint will be repositioned lower but will continue forward.

There is a new chrome soft and chrome soft x featuring a new material in a layer outside the core. Supposedly 3 mph faster ball speed then previous generation with a softer urethane cover than the previous models so more spin greenside with faster ball speed and lower driver spin.

I hit the sub zero and the balls and thought both were very good. I'll be replacing my epic when these are available after the PGA Show. I may keep an old headcover though because I don't love the color scheme (very similar to the current toulon covers).

The new driving iron is also really good and has CF.


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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:55 AM

View Postelwhippy, on 07 October 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

If Ishii is going to do Cally balls then RIP Chrome Soft....the last few years Nike balls were clicky and hard....and sold like stale bread.

There will be some new Chrome Softs.  I have been playing around the ball I've heard Phil is currently playing called the Chrome X Soft, it is between the current Chrome Soft and Crome Soft X.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 11:04 AM

View Postkadeyoung6, on 07 October 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:

View Postelwhippy, on 07 October 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

If Ishii is going to do Cally balls then RIP Chrome Soft....the last few years Nike balls were clicky and hard....and sold like stale bread.

There will be some new Chrome Softs.  I have been playing around the ball I've heard Phil is currently playing called the Chrome X Soft, it is between the current Chrome Soft and Crome Soft X.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 11:39 AM

bonded jailbreak fairways?

You have my attention.

Then again, I have said that about every club that has been released in the past year and really nothing is better then my gamers
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:31 PM

Can't wait to hear how they added the jailbreak tech to fairways and kept them legal. Fairways were already maxed out. I could see slightly higher ball speeds on off center hits. That's about it.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:51 PM

come on callaway.  when are we gonna get some jailbreak technology in your chrome softs? the masses demand this. wake me up when this happens.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 01:57 PM

View PostJ13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.

Since I trust your info infinitely more than other people's on here, is that list accurate? Specifically, the Epic being refreshed?
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 04:10 PM

Anything is better than Epic Star. Name it Yeshua and you got my vote! If Ping can name theirs "Eye" and "G", why not? They should add a Matt black crown option and if the hybrid looks anything like Mizunos CLK and performs like last year's epic, I'll buy it. Don't get carried away and rip us off with the price either, Cally. That wasn't so epic.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 04:14 PM

View PostLacey Underall, on 07 October 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Can't wait to hear how they added the jailbreak tech to fairways and kept them legal. Fairways were already maxed out. I could see slightly higher ball speeds on off center hits. That's about it.

When we were out at Callaway an unnamed employee explained that jailbreak in the fairways didnít really work because the distortion on the crown isnít the same as a driver which rendered the bars close to useless. They must have fixed whatever issue they were having.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 05:00 PM

View Postmackepa, on 07 October 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostLacey Underall, on 07 October 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Can't wait to hear how they added the jailbreak tech to fairways and kept them legal. Fairways were already maxed out. I could see slightly higher ball speeds on off center hits. That's about it.

When we were out at Callaway an unnamed employee explained that jailbreak in the fairways didn't really work because the distortion on the crown isn't the same as a driver which rendered the bars close to useless. They must have fixed whatever issue they were having.

They are deeper/taller faces and no adaptor, so Im assuming room for it to work.

However, most people could of predict the jaileak would get thrown into the woods/hybrid... with how successful it was, how could it not.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

View PostJ13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:49 AM

Fairway woods with JB will be a home run!

assume this kills the Fusion off as well

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:46 AM

View PostMorry, on 08 October 2017 - 06:49 AM, said:

Fairway woods with JB will be a home run!

assume this kills the Fusion off as well

I would think the ďD TypeĒ draw bias version would replace it I guess.

Good call :)

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:29 AM

I've seen these clubs in person, Rogue is the real name and there are rogue irons too. Epic is being phased out in 2018. Expect a price drop in 6 months. That's according to the rep. Also, the new md4's have a bit of a differently look to them. A bit gaudy for lack of a better word. A black head with silver dots and red circles around those dots.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:43 AM

View PostGary Gutful, on 07 October 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 07 October 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Is this recap correct...

Epic staying with cosmetic refresh
Rogue comes in XR out
Apex hybrid out
MB, XForged in
Apex and Apex Pro refreshed

???

And MD4 Wedge release coming as well.  And Rogue might be a code name not retail but either way I don't care about club names.  The only thing they are good for is marketing purposes.
Or bad.

True if you use puppets to act out commercials and dress them like cops and call them the "Speed Police"
Ping G400 LST 8.5* / Mitsu Kuro Kage Dual Core XT 70TX or Xphlexxx Agera 73X
Callaway Rogue SZ 15* w/ Veylix Rome 888 X
Taylormade UDI 2 iron (UST Proforce V2)
Srixon 745's 4-PW (Modus Tour 120 TX)
Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 Modus3 125 wedge shaft
Odyssey White Hot Versa #6
Srixon Zstar XV


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:00 PM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 06 October 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Will this be their new flagship driver or will that remain with the Epic?

My guess is a replacement for the Fusion.

Taylor Made 2017 M1 10.5*, Kuro Kage TiNi 60 R

Cobra King Ltd. 15.5*, Rogue 90 R

TM SLDR Hybrid 19.5*, Fujikura Speeder 82H R

Cobra F6 4 Hybrid 22*, Matrix Red R

Cobra F7 One Length 5-GW, Steel Flighted S,

Bridgestone J15 SW , 54*, DG Spinner

TM EF TP ATV 58*, KBS Tour 120 S

Lamkin 3Gen grips

Wilson Staff 8802, Superstroke Flatso 1.0

Srixon QStar Tour  ball


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