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#1 mallrat

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:29 PM

So I stumbled across a new PXG ad featuring Paige. Now first off, good for her but I don't get it and this isn't about her or directly.

If you were one of their LPGA pros would this annoy you? I just ask because it would me. Not because of her insta-fame but more about what they have accomplished. My first thought was "what a slap in the face to their established pros. Am I the only one that sees it that way?

I should say commercial not a print ad.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:49 PM

No- im sure they get she has to make money that way bc she isnít good enough to make it the Shan Shan Fan way.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:55 PM

View Postmallrat, on 05 October 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

I should say commercial not a print ad.

I just saw the TV commercial during Golf Central just now. It's terrible. Black and white and she hits a Driver and then says "I gained 15 yards!"

I get the appeal of having someone like her as a Brand Spokesperson, but yes, I think that accomplished Pros are steaming. Just like they were steaming when she got the three sponsors's exemptions to play internationally and didn't make a dent.

There is no question she can play Golf, and that she is beautiful. She has elevated herself based on her own Social Media know how, which is amazing. Good for her. She is self made, which is not easy. I wish her the best of luck.

Edited by JerseyBoy, 05 October 2017 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 08:30 AM

PXG has a new commercial?

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:03 AM

Is this any different than having Hank Haney or Butch Harmon as a spokesperson? Neither have had much success on the course as far as I'm aware. Do the PGA players begrudge them for earning a few $$$'s on the side?

Paige is spokesperson, aka brand ambassador. It's marketing.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:16 AM

View PostArgonne69, on 06 October 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

Is this any different than having Hank Haney or Butch Harmon as a spokesperson? Neither have had much success on the course as far as I'm aware. Do the PGA players begrudge them for earning a few $$$'s on the side?

Paige is spokesperson, aka brand ambassador. It's marketing.

Mr. Haney and Mr. Harmon are legendary Golf Instructors, that led their students to legendary careers.

Can we really compare them to an internet sensation who is gorgeous and hasn't even been successful in securing an LPGA Tour Card?

Marketing for sure. Smart marketing? The jury is out for now as far as I'm concerned.

Edited by JerseyBoy, 06 October 2017 - 09:17 AM.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:20 AM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 09:16 AM, said:

View PostArgonne69, on 06 October 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

Is this any different than having Hank Haney or Butch Harmon as a spokesperson? Neither have had much success on the course as far as I'm aware. Do the PGA players begrudge them for earning a few $$$'s on the side?

Paige is spokesperson, aka brand ambassador. It's marketing.

Mr. Haney and Mr. Harmon are legendary Golf Instructors, that led their students to legendary careers.

Can we really compare them to an internet sensation who is gorgeous and hasn't even been successful in securing an LPGA Tour Card?

Marketing for sure. Smart marketing? The jury is out for now as far as I'm concerned.

I'm quite sure they didn't hire her for her tour card, or golf career. It's 2017, and it's apparent to me that "Internet Sensation" is a valid career at this point. I think the Kardashians would agree.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:29 AM

View PostArgonne69, on 06 October 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 09:16 AM, said:

View PostArgonne69, on 06 October 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

Is this any different than having Hank Haney or Butch Harmon as a spokesperson? Neither have had much success on the course as far as I'm aware. Do the PGA players begrudge them for earning a few $$$'s on the side?

Paige is spokesperson, aka brand ambassador. It's marketing.

Mr. Haney and Mr. Harmon are legendary Golf Instructors, that led their students to legendary careers.

Can we really compare them to an internet sensation who is gorgeous and hasn't even been successful in securing an LPGA Tour Card?

Marketing for sure. Smart marketing? The jury is out for now as far as I'm concerned.

I'm quite sure they didn't hire her for her tour card, or golf career. It's 2017, and it's apparent to me that "Internet Sensation" is a valid career at this point. I think the Kardashians would agree.

The Kardashians aren't trying to sell over priced Golf Clubs. The World of Golf is a little more fickle then The Entertainment Network.

Would you buy Golf Clubs solely because their Spokesperson is gorgeous? Especially at that price?

I had a less than enlightening discussion about this on another site, and no one can seem to decide whether Paige is selling to all those people who follow her on Instagram and YouTube who can't afford those clubs, or if PGX is a "lifestyle" brand aimed at the ultra rich who drive Ferraris.

Edited by JerseyBoy, 06 October 2017 - 09:33 AM.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:24 AM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:


The Kardashians aren't trying to sell over priced Golf Clubs. The World of Golf is a little more fickle then The Entertainment Network.

Would you buy Golf Clubs solely because their Spokesperson is gorgeous? Especially at that price?

I had a less than enlightening discussion about this on another site, and no one can seem to decide whether Paige is selling to all those people who follow her on Instagram and YouTube who can't afford those clubs, or if PGX is a "lifestyle" brand aimed at the ultra rich who drive Ferraris.
Of course folks are likely not going to purchase the clubs because she is gorgeous. But some will take a look. Which is the point of marketing. Getting eyeballs on the product.  Not all ads lead directly to sales. But if effective they do get folks to talk about and think about the product.

  Compare it to other ads.  You may not be in the market for a new car. But the new Kia Stinger ads catch you eye. In a couple years you do need a car and the little synapses in your brain will remind you you liked that Kia model and you may check it out.  That is also the point of marketing.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:33 AM

The point of effective marketing is to sell product. If a gorgeous spokesperson is hired, the #1 reason is to move product. That's it.

Do you think she will move more product? Enough to justify her price tag? I personally do not as the product is more of a novelty/boutique product that caters to a specific demographic. And not the demographic that she is known to attract.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:46 AM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 10:33 AM, said:

The point of effective marketing is to sell product. If a gorgeous spokesperson is hired, the #1 reason is to move product. That's it.

Do you think she will move more product? Enough to justify her price tag? I personally do not as the product is more of a novelty/boutique product that caters to a specific demographic. And not the demographic that she is known to attract.

Do you know how much they are paying her? Do you know their profit margin? How many additional sets do they have to sell to cover her fee?

So you know for a certainty that rich guys with money to blow on boutique golf clubs don't like to look at beautiful young women?

You don't think that maybe, just maybe, the company knows their target market? You think they just may have done a little market research before hiring her?

Edited by Argonne69, 06 October 2017 - 10:51 AM.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 12:06 PM

Here are some of my assumptions. They may be totally off. You decide. I don't know anything for certain. Neither do you. So let's start there. I am presenting my opinion. If you disagree, that's okay.

#1) They are paying Paige much less than it would have cost them to sponsor another Tour Pro. One of the reasons they chose that route for sure.

#2) She has a lot of appeal and knows how to market herself. Clearly. Does that always translate to another market? No. I don't think it does.

#3) The Owner of PXG has said his clubs are a "Lifestyle" Brand. Most people that can afford that kind of thing don't even ask what the price is for the product. *Most* of the people who follow Paige on Instagram and YouTube do not fall into that demographic. In fact most Instagramers are Females between the ages of 25-35. You can look up the numbers if you like.

#4) Other than winning once on the Cactus Tour, I personally do not consider Paige a Professional Golfer. She certainly can play much better than me, but she is not an LPGA Pro. Brand exposure seems to work for the bigger companies by having their Product front and center on the Tour.

#5) Regardless of how much you pay a Spokesperson, the intention of having a Spokesperson is to expand your reach. I don't know what the goals of the company are, but generally you should triple your investment before breaking even. The salary you pay the spokesperson is only a part of the equation. How far does her reach expand to the "Lifestyle" people?

Edited by JerseyBoy, 06 October 2017 - 12:16 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

I never said she was a professional golfer. I view her as a model that plays golf. Thousands of companies use models as spokespersons. Sex sells. Advertising 101. I don't think their target market knows, or cares that's she's an internet star. They are clearly not marketing her followers.

PXG already has a sizeable presence on the LPGA Tour. 'Not sure signing another player gains them additional eyeballs.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:11 PM

View PostArgonne69, on 06 October 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

I don't think their target market knows, or cares that's she's an internet star. They are clearly not marketing her followers.

I could be wrong, but I thought I read that that's one of the reasons they chose her. Because of her internet stardom. Ultimately, I wish her all the luck in the world.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:22 PM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 01:11 PM, said:

View PostArgonne69, on 06 October 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

I don't think their target market knows, or cares that's she's an internet star. They are clearly not marketing her followers.

I could be wrong, but I thought I read that that's one of the reasons they chose her. Because of her internet stardom. Ultimately, I wish her all the luck in the world.

I don't doubt it, but that doesn't mean that they're automatically trying to attract her existing fan base as customers. I see it more as someone with a proven track record. If she can build a loyal following from scratch, imagine what she can do with a good marketing department behind her.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 04:51 PM

I'm no fan of Paige's at all but maybe the OP is not familiar with Parson's advertising history.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 04:53 PM

Our “golf fashion” thread has 224 pages.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 05:02 PM

Justin Timberlake and Alice Cooper were brand ambassadors for Callaway, I don't think the tour Pros cared one bit.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 05:18 PM

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Justin Timberlake and Alice Cooper were brand ambassadors for Callaway, I don't think the tour Pros cared one bit.

Isn't that cool? Paige is no Justin Timberlake or Alice Cooper!

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:40 PM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Justin Timberlake and Alice Cooper were brand ambassadors for Callaway, I don't think the tour Pros cared one bit.

Isn't that cool? Paige is no Justin Timberlake or Alice Cooper!
No, but she may have more Instagram followers.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:00 AM

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Justin Timberlake and Alice Cooper were brand ambassadors for Callaway, I don't think the tour Pros cared one bit.

Isn't that cool? Paige is no Justin Timberlake or Alice Cooper!
No, but she may have more Instagram followers.

Remind me how many record JT and Alice have sold in their careers? And how many sellout crowds JT performs to? There are oodles of Golfers who have no idea who Paige it, but even THEY know who Justin Timberlake and Alive Cooper are. Especially with their Annual appearances at the Pebble Beach Pro Am. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Apologies if you were.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:48 AM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 07 October 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

View PostJerseyBoy, on 06 October 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

View PostZBigStick, on 06 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Justin Timberlake and Alice Cooper were brand ambassadors for Callaway, I don't think the tour Pros cared one bit.

Isn't that cool? Paige is no Justin Timberlake or Alice Cooper!
No, but she may have more Instagram followers.

Remind me how many record JT and Alice have sold in their careers? And how many sellout crowds JT performs to? There are oodles of Golfers who have no idea who Paige it, but even THEY know who Justin Timberlake and Alive Cooper are. Especially with their Annual appearances at the Pebble Beach Pro Am. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Apologies if you were.

Which reminds me of a funny story. Playing golf in AZ and I slice my drive into a bush. I'm digging in the bush and find my ball when a guy comes from the other fairway and asks if that's his Titleist, it takes me a few seconds to realize its Alice Cooper. I said no its my Top Flite to which he replied "Can I see it?" Seems Mr. Cooper has trust issues.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 09:20 AM

Possibly just another smart marketing move by Bob Parsons & Co..... he has people talking about it, which equates to success. Exactly what he wanted you to do .
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

PXG is a running joke at this point so who really cares.  Parson's has made it a circus act with his personally narrated commercials.
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:59 PM

View PostJ13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

PXG is a running joke at this point so who really cares.  Parson's has made it a circus act with his personally narrated commercials.
By running joke do you mean at the forefront of a paradigm shift to the equipment industry?


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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:09 PM

View Postapprenti23, on 07 October 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

By running joke do you mean at the forefront of a paradigm shift to the equipment industry?

I'm 100% sure that's EXACTLY what he meant! :cheesy:

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:41 AM

View Postapprenti23, on 07 October 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

PXG is a running joke at this point so who really cares.  Parson's has made it a circus act with his personally narrated commercials.
By running joke do you mean at the forefront of a paradigm shift to the equipment industry?

I meant running joke like he hurts his own brand because his ego is the size of Texas.  Let the players be the star of the show not the owner of the company especially when he produces used car sales level commercials.  And please explain to me what paradigm shift he started in the equipment industry ?  If you say he invented the overpriced iron market i'm going to laugh.
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:10 PM

View PostJ13, on 08 October 2017 - 11:41 AM, said:

View Postapprenti23, on 07 October 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 07 October 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

PXG is a running joke at this point so who really cares.  Parson's has made it a circus act with his personally narrated commercials.
By running joke do you mean at the forefront of a paradigm shift to the equipment industry?

I meant running joke like he hurts his own brand because his ego is the size of Texas.  Let the players be the star of the show not the owner of the company especially when he produces used car sales level commercials.  And please explain to me what paradigm shift he started in the equipment industry ?  If you say he invented the overpriced iron market i'm going to laugh.
Disagree- works for Jerry Jones. He is forcing other makers to create better product for ALL golfers. There really is no arguing that one.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 02:03 PM

View Postapprenti23, on 08 October 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

Disagree- works for Jerry Jones. He is forcing other makers to create better product for ALL golfers. There really is no arguing that one.

How is he forcing other makers to create better products? I'm seriously asking, because I really don't know.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 10:37 PM

View PostJerseyBoy, on 08 October 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postapprenti23, on 08 October 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

Disagree- works for Jerry Jones. He is forcing other makers to create better product for ALL golfers. There really is no arguing that one.

How is he forcing other makers to create better products? I'm seriously asking, because I really don't know.
C16, Epic, Miura Genesis PP, P790, are a start!


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