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2 iron 2-iron titleist taylormade 18 degree 17 degree steel shaft

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#1 eoinzy

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:38 AM

I've been having real snap hook trouble with my woods lately off the tee box. As a result I've started just smashing a 4-iron and it's really helped my competition rounds.
I'm still hitting woods in practise rounds and am working to sort out my problems, but it got me thinking if a lower iron such as a 2 would be a good addition to the bag. That extra few yards would really help!

I've been looking at options from Titleist (T-MB - 17 degree) and Taylormade (UDI - 18 degree).

My question is does a stiff steel shaft make it very difficult to get the ball airborne? Generally does a stiff shaft make a 2 iron more difficult to hit?
As far as ball flight goes I wouldn't say I'm particularly a high or low hitter. I'm not into hybrids and like hitting my lower irons off the fairway.

Oh I'm gonna get this in early - "not even God can hit a 2-iron" haha ;)


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:49 AM

My 2 iron has a softer flex shaft then the rest of the irons in that set. It definitely seems to help.
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:52 AM

I play the same flex throughout, but my 2 iron is only a hair longer in shaft length than the 3
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:44 AM

You're just going to have to experiment with the right shaft. Getting the 2 iron air borne is key. As the distance and roll out will be a formality.

Generally, you do want to go lighter and may be start with a mid-kick point shaft to start.

For example, I play the S300 AMT shaft whereby the PW starts at 130 grams and the 3 iron ends at 112 grams; therefore my 2 iron shaft should settlle at no  greater than 110 grams.

I game the U45 18* and stuck with the stock Nippon 98 gram shaft.

I recommend a steel shaft as it dictates more control and consistency playing off a 3 iron progression. Plus, a steel shaft plays a half inch shorter than a graphite shaft.

Edited by Chuck905, 03 October 2017 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:45 AM

Have you thought about going steel fiber? Might be worth it if you can find a cheap one to test or an old Rifle FCM flighted not a Project X flighted!

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:56 AM

I was having a problem with getting my 2 iron to get up a little more so I switched from an X100 to Project X HZRDS 6.5. This completely changed my ball flight. I would highly recommend getting a graphite.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:15 AM

Impossible to answer for you.  You have to test and see for yourself. Personally I play my 2 at same length as the 3.  And prefer the x100 in it for a lower flight. While I have modus 130x in all others and flight is much higher.  My 2 is for holes that have no benefit to hitting closer.  Just to layup for a full wedge etc. so the stinger that rolls out is what I want.
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:33 AM

Very interesting topic as I'm trying to decide something similar. I don't now if I should stay with my x100 for my driving iron or if I should do something different. I have no real problems controlling trajectory but my stock swing produces a high ball-flight. I like the idea of looking down and something that's consistent with my set but I don't want to make life any more difficult than I have to. I guess I will have to wait for an appropriate fitting head in lefty to surface in my shop. I really don't have the patience for that...

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:37 AM

View Posteoinzy, on 03 October 2017 - 05:38 AM, said:

Oh I'm gonna get this in early - "not even God can hit a 2-iron" haha ;)

You're wrong.  Not even God Can Hit a 1 iron....hahaha

Anyways....when I bought my 845s it came in a set of 1-SW and I can tell you from my experience that the 2 iron is easier to hit than a 1 iron.  That's the longest iron I can handle with any consistency and confidence.  For a guy like you in tournament conditions, I think a present day Hybrid or driving iron will do the trick for you.

Edited by cgasucks, 03 October 2017 - 07:44 AM.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:56 AM

I've tried the one iron thing and don't see an advantage over a 3 wood?



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 09:58 AM

View PostChuck905, on 03 October 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

I've tried the one iron thing and don't see an advantage over a 3 wood?

Some people hit irons better. Ask Jason Day why he bagged a 1i for the Prez Cup and no fairway woods. Like everything else in this game - it's based on the individual.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 10:03 AM

Lol, JD is unique alright. Isn't that a 2 iron bent strong he uses?

In general terms, a 3 wood edges out over a 1 iron.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 04:32 PM

I'm not an expert on club shafts and there's not much local I can test out unfortunately. Maybe I'll just take a gamble on the regular flex Titleist.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 04:34 PM

If you get a low CG driving iron like the U45/U65, Callaway Apex UT, or King UT - you wont' have a problem elevating it no matter what shaft you put on there.  I hit my 18 degree U45 with an S400 as high or higher than my 5 iron.
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:24 PM

Try a Cally apex 2h

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:15 PM

View Posteoinzy, on 03 October 2017 - 05:38 AM, said:

I've been having real snap hook trouble with my woods lately off the tee box. As a result I've started just smashing a 4-iron and it's really helped my competition rounds.
I'm still hitting woods in practise rounds and am working to sort out my problems, but it got me thinking if a lower iron such as a 2 would be a good addition to the bag. That extra few yards would really help!

I've been looking at options from Titleist (T-MB - 17 degree) and Taylormade (UDI - 18 degree).

My question is does a stiff steel shaft make it very difficult to get the ball airborne? Generally does a stiff shaft make a 2 iron more difficult to hit?
As far as ball flight goes I wouldn't say I'm particularly a high or low hitter. I'm not into hybrids and like hitting my lower irons off the fairway.

Oh I'm gonna get this in early - "not even God can hit a 2-iron" haha ;)

I have PX Flighted 6.0 in my 718 T-MB 17* 2 iron and love it.  Given today's iron shaft weights its heavy.  The answer to your question though, I don't have a problem getting the ball airborne and I am in my mid-sixties.

The shafts in the rest of my irons are 125 gram S+.  My trajectory with all irons is mid.  I could probably gains some yardage with 2i if I went to a lighter graphite shaft, but graphite messes with my tempo so the gain is not worth screwing with my swing, or increasing dispersion.

Edited by Pepperturbo, 05 October 2017 - 12:35 PM.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:57 AM

I play flighted shafts in my irons.  Its kind of gone out of style now.  But man I think it helps with the long irons.  I absolutely love my 2 iron.  Now the new utility irons kind of do the work for you.  But if you find a standard 2 iron head you like better, then try to find a flighted shaft and give it a go.  KBS makes a flighted shaft now although I have never tried it myself.
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 11:02 AM

I stayed with the same shaft in my T-MB 2 iron and I really like the consistency in the set. I didn't find a ball flight that I liked with the graphite models that were available for demo, but knew what I was getting into with the C-Taper. I haven't regretted if for a second.
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 03:16 PM

I would see if there are some decent heavy graphite options with not much up charge, try it and if you like it great, if not an X100 can be purchased for very little mula
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Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:50 AM

View Postbladehunter, on 03 October 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

Impossible to answer for you.  You have to test and see for yourself. Personally I play my 2 at same length as the 3.  And prefer the x100 in it for a lower flight. While I have modus 130x in all others and flight is much higher.  My 2 is for holes that have no benefit to hitting closer.  Just to layup for a full wedge etc. so the stinger that rolls out is what I want.

I agree......I didn't order a 2 iron to in order for it to get "airborne easily."  I got it to fly straight, low, long, and roll out. If i needed something easy to get airborne.....I'd game a hybrid or crossover.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:50 PM

View PostFmaxTurboSi, on 05 October 2017 - 02:50 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 03 October 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

Impossible to answer for you.  You have to test and see for yourself. Personally I play my 2 at same length as the 3.  And prefer the x100 in it for a lower flight. While I have modus 130x in all others and flight is much higher.  My 2 is for holes that have no benefit to hitting closer.  Just to layup for a full wedge etc. so the stinger that rolls out is what I want.

I agree......I didn't order a 2 iron to in order for it to get "airborne easily."  I got it to fly straight, low, long, and roll out. If i needed something easy to get airborne.....I'd game a hybrid or crossover.

Agree 100%.  I am long past reaching for 2i or 3i to hit into a Par 5 in two like seen on PGA tour.   My 17* 2i is for tee shots on shorter +/- 350yd Par 4's, long 200yd+ Par 3's and 2nd shots on long Par 5's...  I chose 2i over 3wd because I won't miss the fairway.  I don't like high trajectories either, as I face windy conditions too often.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 04:22 AM

My irons are regular flex steel shafts. My lowest iron is 20 degree loft.
I may just go for the regular flex Titleist T-MB which is 17 degree. Only options I can find are with the X100 shaft.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:35 AM

View Posteoinzy, on 06 October 2017 - 04:22 AM, said:

My irons are regular flex steel shafts. My lowest iron is 20 degree loft.
I may just go for the regular flex Titleist T-MB which is 17 degree. Only options I can find are with the X100 shaft.

Give the Mizuno MP H5 series a look if you haven't.  I have the 1- and 3-irons and both are really easy to hit.  The stock shaft is a c-taper lite, which might give a little bit of help if you're worried about clubhead speed and getting the ball in the air.  FWIW, I tried out the H5, Apex UT, and TMB and hit the H5 much better than the other two.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:42 AM

View PostChuck905, on 03 October 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

I've tried the one iron thing and don't see an advantage over a 3 wood?

It depends on what you're looking for and it doesn't have to be an either/or.  I carry both.  The 1-iron is shorter than the 3-wood, but I have a much lower, flatter ball flight with the 1-iron than the 3-wood.  Generally the 1-iron is used off the tee on shorter par 4s, but if I'm into the wind, I can hit the 1-iron longer than the 3-wood, especially if the course is dry.  The 1-iron is also quite good for knock down / punch recovery shots where the 3-wood is useless.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:56 AM

View PostFmaxTurboSi, on 05 October 2017 - 02:50 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 03 October 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

Impossible to answer for you.  You have to test and see for yourself. Personally I play my 2 at same length as the 3.  And prefer the x100 in it for a lower flight. While I have modus 130x in all others and flight is much higher.  My 2 is for holes that have no benefit to hitting closer.  Just to layup for a full wedge etc. so the stinger that rolls out is what I want.

I agree......I didn't order a 2 iron to in order for it to get "airborne easily."  I got it to fly straight, low, long, and roll out. If i needed something easy to get airborne.....I'd game a hybrid or crossover.


That is why I am not interested in the "driving irons" with the huge soles designed to get the ball up. If I have a 2 iron in play it is because I want it to go low. I have a RazrX forged 2 iron to keep the ball down on windy days, but I don't put it in play that often.

Most of the time I would rather play a hybrid or 4 wedges instead of a 2 iron.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 12:48 PM

I have a UDI with a TI PX HB6 (97g) right now but had a much heavier shaft in it before.  I've also played an Apex UT with both a SteelFiber 110 and Recoil 110.  The lighter weight but stiff shaft lets me swing easy or hard depending.  Oh, and mine gets used anywhere on the course it's needed so I didn't want just a low runner of a ball flight.  I suggest you go to a lighter shaft for the 2i, either as a driving iron or true 2i.  You'll probably be using it a lot more from the tee than from the fw so something to give you a little more speed is always helpful.  One thing you'll find is that the UDI is much beefier than the T-MB.  To me, the T-MB looks more like a regular iron where the UDI has a much bigger footprint but similar sized face.  Take that into consideration when you make your decision.
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#27 cadman88

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 02:15 PM

I have tried;
Taylormade UDI 18°(Sold it..)
Cobra driving iron (Sold it..)
Adams XTD DHy 21 & 24 (Sold them..)
Srixon zU65 2/18° (Will be selling it..)
Srixon zU65 3/20°  (Sold it..)
Callaway APEX UT 18° (Will be selling it..)
Callaway APEX UT 21° (Keeping it.. it's my favorite)
Callaway APEX UT 24° (Keeping it.. it's my second favorite)
Callaway Epic 10.5°, UST Elements Prototype PT6F5
Taylormade 2017 M1 15°, HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5
Titleist 716 AP2 4-PW, C-Taper Lite 110s
Ping Glide SS 50° Ping CFS Wedge
Ping Glide SS 54° Ping CFS Wedge
Ping Glide ES 58° Ping CFS Wedge
Scotty Cameron GoLo 3 35"


Current options;
Taylormade 2017 M2 10.5°, (set at -2°) UST TourSPX Elements Chrome 6F5T
Srixon z945 4-PW, Steelfiber i110cw xstiff
Titleist 716 MB 3-PW, DG S300
Ping iBlade 5-PW, AWT 2.0x
Ping I E1 4-PW, GW, AWT 2.0x
Adams XTD Forged 4-PW, GW, C-Taper Lite 110s
Adams XTD Forged 4-PW, UST TourSPX Recoils 95 F5

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#28 Jack Pearsall

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:37 PM

Driving iron Srixon ZR-uti at 18* (love this club) with a project x 6.5, which is stiffer than his precision rifle  or Nippon 110gh shafts on irons.
Seeking to hit lower Boring  shots for wind play. Plus it's easy to tee and hit low stinker types.
Also still use mizzy flihi mp irons. Terrific. Lots of choices to..., Bridgestone, Titleist, cally, ping - they all make di now..
Taylormade Sldr TP 430 9.5*
Taylormade 300 Series 15*
Titleist 909h 17*
Mizuno MP FliHi 21*
Macgregor PCB Tour 4-PW
Mizuno MP T7 52* 58*
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Posted 07 October 2017 - 05:01 AM

I would second the MP-H5. I recently picked up one and replaced the S300 in it with an XCaliber Tour 105g shaft.  Great feel and flight.  I'm surprised at how easy it is to hit.
Srixon 745 10.5* Kuro Kage
Mizuno MP-650 Speeder VC 8.0s
Mizuno MP-H5 2I XCaliber Tour X 105
Srixon 745 DGS300 3-PW
Callaway Jaws 52*, 58*
Mizuno MP-T105

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#30 Chuck905

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:15 PM

Funny as we speak; got the 20* bent to 18* and the 18* to 16* to pull out the 5 and 3 wood.

Got bored finding fairways all day yesterday.

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