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#151 MrJones

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:40 AM

View Postwareagle12, on 10 October 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

There are posts from both sides of the aisle here. I'll make an observation and try to relate it to the original topic. I'm not going to go back and quote the comment but it was said that there is no moral absolute and that it is all subjective as relating back to Jordan Speith's comments.

The same person then argued that in the "extreme example" one person impeded upon another's rights.

Both of these are absolute moral statements (it is wrong to impede upon another's right, moral law IS subjective) from a point of view that is held that all are subjective, thereby refuting their very claim (which is what the C.S Lewis comment is saying).

So now that we understand everyone is making absolute statements, back to topic.

For anyone to say that Jordan's comments are ok, you're saying there is indeed a "straight line" because you're defining that line and his actions within that. You're definition of the line is different from the OP, mine and many other people.

I think it's wrong to attack him for this. It's fine to disagree. Let's be civil and polite to one another. For the record, I don't think Jordan was being mean spirited at all. It comes down to whether it was a good decision. Some will say yes, some no. I say who cares...  But to say there is no absolute morality is an absolute morality... doesn't make sense.

Should have know some "Aub" would jump in with their opinion! :angry:

Kidding. :)

My original statement "At the end of the day I've accepted that things are only right and wrong based on any individuals personal beliefs." contained two main flaws (per me, the person who wrote it).

I meant to convey that this was my own little personal opinion. I did a poor job of that. I also did not mean to make "things" all inclusive. Should have used a word like "most" or even "some". Did not expect it to go off the way it did. Wasn't really thinking "How can I best convey my feelings on absolute morality?" at all. Much less serious than that. I said things like "what's right to you may not be right to others."


The rest of it is very muted/edited. I didn't go very deep because we can't.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:44 AM

View PostMrJones, on 10 October 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

View Postwareagle12, on 10 October 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

There are posts from both sides of the aisle here. I'll make an observation and try to relate it to the original topic. I'm not going to go back and quote the comment but it was said that there is no moral absolute and that it is all subjective as relating back to Jordan Speith's comments.

The same person then argued that in the "extreme example" one person impeded upon another's rights.

Both of these are absolute moral statements (it is wrong to impede upon another's right, moral law IS subjective) from a point of view that is held that all are subjective, thereby refuting their very claim (which is what the C.S Lewis comment is saying).

So now that we understand everyone is making absolute statements, back to topic.

For anyone to say that Jordan's comments are ok, you're saying there is indeed a "straight line" because you're defining that line and his actions within that. You're definition of the line is different from the OP, mine and many other people.

I think it's wrong to attack him for this. It's fine to disagree. Let's be civil and polite to one another. For the record, I don't think Jordan was being mean spirited at all. It comes down to whether it was a good decision. Some will say yes, some no. I say who cares...  But to say there is no absolute morality is an absolute morality... doesn't make sense.

Should have know some "Aub" would jump in with their opinion! :angry:

Kidding. :)

My original statement "At the end of the day I've accepted that things are only right and wrong based on any individuals personal beliefs." contained two main flaws (per me, the person who wrote it).

I meant to convey that this was my own little personal opinion. I did a poor job of that. I also did not mean to make "things" all inclusive. Should have used a word like "most" or even "some". Did not expect it to go off the way it did. Wasn't really thinking "How can I best convey my feelings on absolute morality?" at all. Much less serious than that. I said things like "what's right to you may not be right to others."


The rest of it is very muted/edited. I didn't go very deep because we can't.

I think the fact that it got here is hilarious 😂! From the title of the thread who would've thought it would turn to a philosophy discussion.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

I don't care where it goes so long as you two keep the in-state rivalry civil.














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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:20 PM

Well I'm neither young or american. Or PC. But I do not really understand why Spieth and they found that line so funny. Is "shake azz" a paraphrase for something else or has that shy young Korean fellow really moved his rear sideways in public? Banter is fine, if it has some kind of background. Dufner had his coming, he did really dufner. But what has that fellow done to get this? Or is is funny in some other way not obvious to a generation X Scandinavian?

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:31 PM

View PostHankshank, on 12 October 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

Well I'm neither young or american. Or PC. But I do not really understand why Spieth and they found that line so funny. Is "shake azz" a paraphrase for something else or has that shy young Korean fellow really moved his rear sideways in public? Banter is fine, if it has some kind of background. Dufner had his coming, he did really dufner. But what has that fellow done to get this? Or is is funny in some other way not obvious to a generation X Scandinavian?

I took it to mean a play on his name.  As in. " I si woo baby shakin that a**"    Or am I off track too ?  Lol

Edited by bladehunter, 12 October 2017 - 04:31 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:39 PM

To steal from Latin definitions from wikipedia:

Malum in se (plural mala in se) is a Latin phrase meaning wrong or evil in itself. The phrase is used to refer to conduct assessed as sinful or inherently wrong by nature, independent of regulations governing the conduct. It is distinguished from malum prohibitum, which is wrong only because it is prohibited.
For example, most human beings believe that murder, rape, and theft are wrong, regardless of whether a law governs such conduct or where the conduct occurs, and is thus recognizably malum in se. In contrast, malum prohibitumcrimes are criminal not because they are inherently bad, but because the act is prohibited by the law of the state. For example, law in the United States requires drivers to drive on the right side of the road. This is not because driving on the left side of a road is considered immoral, but because consistent rules promote safety and order on the roads.
This concept was used to develop the various common law offences.[1]

Malum prohibitum (plural mala prohibita, literal translation: "wrong [as or because] prohibited") is a Latin phrase used in law to refer to conduct that constitutes an unlawful act only by virtue of statute,[1] as opposed to conduct that is evil in and of itself, or malum in se.[2]
Conduct that is so clearly violative of society's standards for allowable conduct that it is illegal under English common law is usually regarded as malum in se. An offense that is malum prohibitum may not appear on the face to directly violate moral standards. The distinction between these two cases is discussed in State of Washington v. Thaddius X. Anderson:[3]


Criminal offenses can be broken down into two general categories malum in se and malum prohibitum. The distinction between malum in se and malum prohibitum offenses is best characterized as follows: a malum in seoffense is "naturally evil as adjudged by the sense of a civilized community," whereas a malum prohibitum offense is wrong only because a statute makes it so. State v. Horton, 139 N.C. 588, 51 S.E. 945, 946 (1905).
"Public welfare offenses" are a subset of malum prohibitum offenses as they are typically regulatory in nature and often "'result in no direct or immediate injury to person or property but merely create the danger or probability of it which the law seeks to minimize.'" Bash, 130 Wn.2d at 607 (quoting Morissette v. United States, 342 U.S. 246, 255-56, 72 S. Ct. 240, 96 L. Ed. 288 (1952)); see also State v. Carty, 27 Wn. App. 715, 717, 620 P.2d 137 (1980).



That certain words are taboo certainly seems like a cultural bias.  Words that were taboo years ago are more commonplace today.

Edited by LeoLeo99, 12 October 2017 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:25 AM

View Postbladehunter, on 12 October 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

View PostHankshank, on 12 October 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

Well I'm neither young or american. Or PC. But I do not really understand why Spieth and they found that line so funny. Is "shake azz" a paraphrase for something else or has that shy young Korean fellow really moved his rear sideways in public? Banter is fine, if it has some kind of background. Dufner had his coming, he did really dufner. But what has that fellow done to get this? Or is is funny in some other way not obvious to a generation X Scandinavian?

I took it to mean a play on his name.  As in. " I si woo baby shakin that a**" Or am I off track too ?  Lol
Based on some existing song? Sounds like Rap, and I do not listen to rap, I like melodies. But maybe its not rap either. If it is Rap i am surprised that it is so well known in the golfing community.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:58 AM

View PostHankshank, on 13 October 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 12 October 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

View PostHankshank, on 12 October 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

Well I'm neither young or american. Or PC. But I do not really understand why Spieth and they found that line so funny. Is "shake azz" a paraphrase for something else or has that shy young Korean fellow really moved his rear sideways in public? Banter is fine, if it has some kind of background. Dufner had his coming, he did really dufner. But what has that fellow done to get this? Or is is funny in some other way not obvious to a generation X Scandinavian?

I took it to mean a play on his name.  As in. " I si woo baby shakin that a**" Or am I off track too ?  Lol
Based on some existing song? Sounds like Rap, and I do not listen to rap, I like melodies. But maybe its not rap either. If it is Rap i am surprised that it is so well known in the golfing community.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:29 AM

Only on GolfWRX can a funny play on words referencing a popular song devolve into a conversation about the fundamental nature of morality complete with Latin phrase definitions and quotes from C.S. Lewis.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 07:23 AM

im officially too old... its only mildly funny if that .....has to be some inside millennial humor at work here that i dont get ?? but  im not offended at all ... just seems pretty weak sauce...   am kind of suprised nobody has complained that its making fun of his name .....

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:54 AM

View PostHankshank, on 13 October 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 12 October 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

View PostHankshank, on 12 October 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

Well I'm neither young or american. Or PC. But I do not really understand why Spieth and they found that line so funny. Is "shake azz" a paraphrase for something else or has that shy young Korean fellow really moved his rear sideways in public? Banter is fine, if it has some kind of background. Dufner had his coming, he did really dufner. But what has that fellow done to get this? Or is is funny in some other way not obvious to a generation X Scandinavian?

I took it to mean a play on his name.  As in. " I si woo baby shakin that a**"    Or am I off track too ?  Lol
Based on some existing song? Sounds like Rap, and I do not listen to rap, I like melodies. But maybe its not rap either. If it is Rap i am surprised that it is so well known in the golfing community.

Good hip hop has melody, especially the 90s. Cool to put everything under an umbrella of ignorance especially considering you say you don't listen. How would you know to base your opinion?

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:16 PM

View Posttsecor, on 06 October 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

Can't you see Lee Trevino from Happy Gilmore standing off to the side looking at Spieth.....

H no!
Good thing you've never actually heard Trevino talk in the locker room or not on camera.
If Lee was @presser, he'ld laugh along with Team USA and the entire room.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:04 AM

I think it's great for the sport of golf. there's nothing wrong with a little light hearted laughter every once in a while.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 04:00 AM

View PostJasonic, on 13 October 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

Good hip hop has melody, especially the 90s. Cool to put everything under an umbrella of ignorance especially considering you say you don't listen. How would you know to base your opinion?
Well, actually back in the 90's I did actually buy a CD with MC Hammer and two with Salt'n Peppa. And one or two Scandinavian rappers. But well, your right, I have since put rap under the ignorance umbrella. My kids like the stuff and I have to have something to grumble about.  Eminem was an issue for me a couple of years ago that resembled the issues my father had with Stiff Little Fingers, Sham 69 and Clash back around 1978. And scandinavians Ebba Grön and KSMB. You gotta preserve family traditions.

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