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What clubs does you junior golfer carry in their bag


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#31 leezer99

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:00 PM

View PostYelwar, on 09 October 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

View Posttiger1873, on 09 October 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 09 October 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostYelwar, on 09 October 2017 - 03:29 PM, said:

What shafts are you guys using for the juniors who are using OEM irons?  I'm thinking about new irons myself and thought I'd reuse my 714 AP2 heads for my son, but I haven't really seen aftermarket junior iron shafts.  He plays Flynns now and I know Mike sells shafts, but I'm curious what others have used.

Kuro Kage TiNi in A flex for my son's AP1's.

Kuro Kage shafts are great and hard to beat if your looking for something lightweight  If you start looking there are a lot shafts out there and very lightweight.  If you are needing to buy junior shafts then you really should not be buying OEM clubs.  If a kid can swing above 60 mph then buying women's flex will work.

The only kids I know that were fitted with OEM clubs are lefty's because it used to be hard to get the better kids clubs for them. I don't believe that is an issue anymore.

Being lightweight is certainly part of it but length was the other factor I wasn’t sure about.  He is 10, so even the length of a woman’s shaft for irons is going to be too long.  I think he will make it through the fall and next spring with this set assuming no major growth spurt.  So this would be more of a the 11/12 year old set and I am just trying to think ahead.

My other pain is his younger sister is a giant for her age so this current set probably won’t work as hand me downs as she is as big as he is!

You can cut down the shafts but make sure you adjust the loft / lie accordingly.  My boy is only nine and was fitted for his current set.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 01:15 PM

6 year old (going on 7 soon).

USKG UL48 6-PW, SW (new)
USKG TS51 Driver (used)
USKG TS51 3-Wood (used)
USKG UL48 Hybrid (new)
USKG UL48 Jekyll Putter (new)

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 09:57 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 October 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

View PostCTgolf, on 05 October 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

Interesting to see many young kids hit OEM drivers/clubs

My son still uses TS clubs

At what age/size/swing speed do you think it makes a big enough difference?  Are there advantages to playing OEM sooner/later?

I always figured if he could be competitive and win with TS then waiting to switch to OEM would only help him that much more in the future but would be open to switching sooner if there were other considerations and  advantages other than just distance

Mine switched at 9/10.  Wondered why everyone was 10-20 yards longer on a local tour because mine was always as long or in some cases longer than everyone there.  Noticed after the 3rd tourney in the local that the kids out driving him were using OEM drivers and woods.  Neighbor down the street had given me a Senior Flex RBZ 3W and it was just sitting in the garage.  I cut it down that night.  He went to an after school function the very next day (Monday) and was right around 10 yards longer with the cut down 3W than he was his US Kids Driver.  I then had a used Jet Speed with a senior shaft two day aired to me from Global Golf.com. I cut it down on Thursday, he practiced with it on Friday, he out drove his opponents on Saturday and won.  He was 15 to 20 yards longer with the Jet Speed than he was the US Kids.  Been using OEM woods ever since.
My experience was a little bit different.  I think the OEM driver carries farther (assuming its the same length as US Kids TS driver, but the US Kids TS driver definitely has lower spin and rolls a ton.

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:46 PM

View Postyellowlover519, on 08 May 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 October 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

View PostCTgolf, on 05 October 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

Interesting to see many young kids hit OEM drivers/clubs

My son still uses TS clubs

At what age/size/swing speed do you think it makes a big enough difference?  Are there advantages to playing OEM sooner/later?

I always figured if he could be competitive and win with TS then waiting to switch to OEM would only help him that much more in the future but would be open to switching sooner if there were other considerations and  advantages other than just distance

Mine switched at 9/10.  Wondered why everyone was 10-20 yards longer on a local tour because mine was always as long or in some cases longer than everyone there.  Noticed after the 3rd tourney in the local that the kids out driving him were using OEM drivers and woods.  Neighbor down the street had given me a Senior Flex RBZ 3W and it was just sitting in the garage.  I cut it down that night.  He went to an after school function the very next day (Monday) and was right around 10 yards longer with the cut down 3W than he was his US Kids Driver.  I then had a used Jet Speed with a senior shaft two day aired to me from Global Golf.com. I cut it down on Thursday, he practiced with it on Friday, he out drove his opponents on Saturday and won.  He was 15 to 20 yards longer with the Jet Speed than he was the US Kids.  Been using OEM woods ever since.
My experience was a little bit different.  I think the OEM driver carries farther (assuming its the same length) as US Kids TS driver, but the US Kids TS driver definitely has lower spin and rolls a ton.  That being said, carry was more important than roll out without control.  Switched to Cobra Junior Fly Z at age 7 and M2 at age 8.  Just retipped cobra shaft with TM tip.

Edited by yellowlover519, 12 May 2018 - 09:53 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

Edited by yellowlover519, 12 May 2018 - 09:54 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:16 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

What is your kids swing speed?

Edited by heavy_hitter, 13 May 2018 - 06:20 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:29 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

He 9. WHY is he swinging blades? Most PGA tour pros don't even swing those.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:03 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

You don't happen to go by the name Ace do you?

https://youtu.be/v4O2_1mrD0Y

Just having a little fun. But seriously, MP5s for a 9yo?
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F6 Baffler Aldila Rogue Silver 70 Stiff
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:12 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

Did you mean to say the MP-H5's?

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:46 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

To each his own I guess but those irons are defying all logic and standardized patterns of thought for a 9 year old who would be in 57" USKids clubs....

Edited by BloctonGolf11, 14 May 2018 - 10:48 AM.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:14 AM

I think every kid is different.  For us, he can hit it through the proper windows with those clubs, including the 4 iron (albeit, itís not pure 50% of the time).  When he started that set he would hit 8 iron 5/10 in the sweet spot and toe the rest (have to love foot powder).  Now, I am comfortable that p-7 iron that he can hit 80-90% pure.  6-5 irons probably 70% right now, if Iím being honest.  Also, I had previously bought one mp-4 iron on eBay and built it as a range club.

So why the MP-5s?  One, Iím not a fan of jacked up lofts with a face bigger than US Kids.   Two, he has to learn what a mishit is.  Three, I think it promotes much more efficient practice and will ultimately make him a better ball striker (although I will unlikely ever move to GI clubs for a number of reasons); you can find out something is wrong pretty quickly and we donít have the time to practice much given his other commitments.  Four, they were my heads and I wanted a new set :).  Five, much easier to bend lie of forged clubs, which needed to be done.  Six, if youíre a golfwxer, MP-5s and MP-64s are arguably the two best irons ever made.

BTW - his pga junior coach loves his progression and use of these clubs (I am his only real coach).  If he was shorter than anyone we play on our local tours with or wasnít launching them at appropriate angles, maybe I would only use the set as a range set, but heís fine.

I think the only new club was the M1 fairway wood (if you donít know, AJGA discount is huge and well worth a junior annual membership); again bc I needed a fairway wood that I could easily switch shafts as he grows.  Hybrid was mine - just changed setting and got an appropriate shaft.  Driver, I donít think OEM goes any longer in total distance, but they carry farther than US Kids Tour (at least for my son).  US Kids woods just seem to have a lot of roll out and I hated trajectory on those for my son.  

Big fan of the zelos shafts for juniors.   You guys should check them out as they weigh less than 80 grams.  All in all, didnít cost me much and I just have to change shafts while he grows.  Clubs should last 3 seasons.

If you have a strong enough 9-10 year-old, get a blade (single iron that will run you like $60 used and buy a zelos or graphite shaft; have it built (total cost should be about $120)) and have them work on their swing.   Just my 2 cents.  Of course everyone has/will have differing opinions.

Edited by yellowlover519, 16 May 2018 - 10:16 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:25 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 13 May 2018 - 06:16 AM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 12 May 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

9-year old

Driver - 2017 M2
Irons - Mizuno MP-5s with Zelos steel shaft (R2 flex)
Hybrid - 4H titleist 915
5W - 2017 M1 (only bc you can switch shafts)
Wedges - Mizuno S-5 in 50*, 54* and 58*

Mizuno MP-5s have more traditional lofts.  Also, Mizunos are 1* to 2* flat when compared to other OEMs.  Length match US Kids 57 tour series.

What is your kids swing speed?

Heavy - havenít measure his swing speed.  But here are approximates of his distances (all in carry), so far this spring in colder weather:

Driver - 165-175
5 wood - 150-160
Hybrid - 140-150
4i - 130
5i - 125
6i - 115
7i - 110
8i - 100
9i - 90-95

And so on...

And no, I donít believe that playing in GI irons bent to the same lofts or graphite shafts would change any of those numbers...

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:30 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 16 May 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

I think every kid is different.  For us, he can hit it through the proper windows with those clubs, including the 4 iron (albeit, it's not pure 50% of the time).  When he started that set he would hit 8 iron 5/10 in the sweet spot and toe the rest (have to love foot powder).  Now, I am comfortable that p-7 iron that he can hit 80-90% pure.  6-5 irons probably 70% right now, if I'm being honest.  Also, I had previously bought one mp-4 iron on eBay and built it as a range club.

So why the MP-5s?  One, I'm not a fan of jacked up lofts with a face bigger than US Kids.   Two, he has to learn what a mishit is.  Three, I think it promotes much more efficient practice and will ultimately make him a better ball striker (although I will unlikely ever move to GI clubs for a number of reasons); you can find out something is wrong pretty quickly and we don't have the time to practice much given his other commitments.  Four, they were my heads and I wanted a new set :).  Five, much easier to bend lie of forged clubs, which needed to be done.  Six, if you're a golfwxer, MP-5s and MP-64s are arguably the two best irons ever made.

BTW - his pga junior coach loves his progression and use of these clubs (I am his only real coach).  If he was shorter than anyone we play on our local tours with or wasn't launching them at appropriate angles, maybe I would only use the set as a range set, but he's fine.

I think the only new club was the M1 fairway wood (if you don't know, AJGA discount is huge and well worth a junior annual membership); again bc I needed a fairway wood that I could easily switch shafts as he grows.  Hybrid was mine - just changed setting and got an appropriate shaft.  Driver, I don't think OEM goes any longer in total distance, but they carry farther than US Kids Tour (at least for my son).  US Kids woods just seem to have a lot of roll out and I hated trajectory on those for my son.  

Big fan of the zelos shafts for juniors.   You guys should check them out as they weigh less than 80 grams.  All in all, didn't cost me much and I just have to change shafts while he grows.  Clubs should last 3 seasons.

If you have a strong enough 9-10 year-old, get a blade (single iron that will run you like $60 used and buy a zelos or graphite shaft; have it built (total cost should be about $120)) and have them work on their swing.   Just my 2 cents.  Of course everyone has/will have differing opinions.

Lot of great points I agree with and some I don't.  Not going to debate either but I do have a set of MP-60's in the garage and I'm watching a zelos 7 auction on ebay.  

Yesterday I asked the boy if his clubs were too light and he indicated that they probably were... last fitting was about a year ago now.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 16 May 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

I think every kid is different.  For us, he can hit it through the proper windows with those clubs, including the 4 iron (albeit, it's not pure 50% of the time).  When he started that set he would hit 8 iron 5/10 in the sweet spot and toe the rest (have to love foot powder).  Now, I am comfortable that p-7 iron that he can hit 80-90% pure.  6-5 irons probably 70% right now, if I'm being honest.  Also, I had previously bought one mp-4 iron on eBay and built it as a range club.

So why the MP-5s?  One, I'm not a fan of jacked up lofts with a face bigger than US Kids.   Two, he has to learn what a mishit is.  Three, I think it promotes much more efficient practice and will ultimately make him a better ball striker (although I will unlikely ever move to GI clubs for a number of reasons); you can find out something is wrong pretty quickly and we don't have the time to practice much given his other commitments.  Four, they were my heads and I wanted a new set :).  Five, much easier to bend lie of forged clubs, which needed to be done.  Six, if you're a golfwxer, MP-5s and MP-64s are arguably the two best irons ever made.

BTW - his pga junior coach loves his progression and use of these clubs (I am his only real coach).  If he was shorter than anyone we play on our local tours with or wasn't launching them at appropriate angles, maybe I would only use the set as a range set, but he's fine.

I think the only new club was the M1 fairway wood (if you don't know, AJGA discount is huge and well worth a junior annual membership); again bc I needed a fairway wood that I could easily switch shafts as he grows.  Hybrid was mine - just changed setting and got an appropriate shaft.  Driver, I don't think OEM goes any longer in total distance, but they carry farther than US Kids Tour (at least for my son).  US Kids woods just seem to have a lot of roll out and I hated trajectory on those for my son.  

Big fan of the zelos shafts for juniors.   You guys should check them out as they weigh less than 80 grams.  All in all, didn't cost me much and I just have to change shafts while he grows.  Clubs should last 3 seasons.

If you have a strong enough 9-10 year-old, get a blade (single iron that will run you like $60 used and buy a zelos or graphite shaft; have it built (total cost should be about $120)) and have them work on their swing.   Just my 2 cents.  Of course everyone has/will have differing opinions.

To each his own.  A couple of decent points, but several that I don't agree with.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:47 AM

I agree.  No need to debate the blade v cavity back as this is a junior forum and it will be endless.  I just post to give insight on what I think in hopes that it will provide advice to others.  Weíre all seeking improvement, nothing else.  



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:52 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 16 May 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

I agree.  No need to debate the blade v cavity back as this is a junior forum and it will be endless.  I just post to give insight on what I think in hopes that it will provide advice to others.  We're all seeking improvement, nothing else.  

It goes back to the yardage thing... have them play longer yardages early so they have to learn to save par or let them play short yardages so they learn to go low.  There's more than one way to skin a cat.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:15 AM

My daughter is 12, 13 next week.  We just got through buying her new clubs.  M2 Driver and 3 Wood.  Titleist 816 23 degree hybrid.  Titleist AP3 irons, 5 through GW.  AP3's have a 43 degree pitching wedge so they offer a 48 degree gap wedge also which we did get.  She has Titleist 52, 56, and 60 degree SM6 Vokey wedges. Taylormade Spider putter.  We spent months putting that set together and I'm so glad we finally got them finished.  She loves them and is killing them.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:39 AM

My son is 11. He plays the following:

F6 Jr. Driver
LTD Black 4W- 16*
Epic Heavenwood- 19*
F6 4 hybrid- 22*
Cobra AMP Forged 5i-GW w/ Matrix Graphite Shafts
Cleveland CBX Jr 56* wedge
TM Rossa Daytona putter

Cobra Mega Lite stand bag

Won't post yardages because this is WRX and what's the point.
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Cobra F7+ Driver 10.5 Aldila Rogue 125 Silver TS 44.5"
Epic SZ 15.5* GD ADDI 6S
F6 Baffler 17.5* Aldila Rogue Black 70 stiff
Cobra F7 4H Aldila Rogue 85H R flex
Mizuno MP15 5-PW Project X LZ 5.5
MD2 Tour 52* and 58* S200/300
PM Grind MD3 64* KBS 610
Scotty Studio Stainless Newport 2

Alternates:
Fly Z 3/4Hyb Aldila Rogue 85h R flex
F6 Baffler Aldila Rogue Silver 70 Stiff
MD Forged 56* S200

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