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Callaway MD 4 wedges and X Forged irons: 2017 Safeway Open


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#61 Grip It & Rip It 82

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:53 AM

View PostRpete33, on 05 October 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

View PostGrip It & Rip It 82, on 05 October 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Not feeling the red here either. I know I am one of the few but I actually really liked the acid green in the MD3's.
I think the red will look great with a black finish just like the green, I wish they would go with a more neutral look with some of their clubs, I love straight black, would love a black out version

I agree. Closest thing I got was the MD3 clover edition with the black shaft and grip with minimal acid green highlights.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:56 AM

View PostRpete33, on 04 October 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostLacey Underall, on 04 October 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

View PostHISPL, on 04 October 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:

Apex MB was available in two finishes bright chrome and oil can/raw, it looks beautiful in the flesh and feels just as good.

Have feeling the raw version you are speaking about is either going to be in the Australian market only or tour department only.  Nobody in the US seems to think the raw version will be available at retail here.

I would love a raw set of irons

I’m sure we could organise to ship a few sets to the US :)

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:41 AM

View PostGrip It & Rip It 82, on 05 October 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 05 October 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

View PostGrip It & Rip It 82, on 05 October 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Not feeling the red here either. I know I am one of the few but I actually really liked the acid green in the MD3's.
I think the red will look great with a black finish just like the green, I wish they would go with a more neutral look with some of their clubs, I love straight black, would love a black out version

I agree. Closest thing I got was the MD3 clover edition with the black shaft and grip with minimal acid green highlights.
I have the same ones and love the look

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#64 DTown3011

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:07 AM

View PostAUDuffer, on 04 October 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

View PostGary Gutful, on 03 October 2017 - 06:33 AM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 02 October 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

X Grind.  Interesting.  Hoping for a raw or dark finish option, not loving the chrome.

Also, some of the wedges look like there is a weight port or something added into the port holes.  Other wedges look empty.  Here are 2 different variations:

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Good pickup. I wonder what the differences are in terms of weight? Might help lower the traj on the higher lofted irons.

The MD3s had the same weight system. Tungsten in the lower lifted wedges, steel powder in the middle and just painful in the high lofted wedges.

Huh?  I have owned about 10 MD3 wedges and none of them have any weight system in the port holes.
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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:51 PM

View PostDTown3011, on 05 October 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

View PostAUDuffer, on 04 October 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

View PostGary Gutful, on 03 October 2017 - 06:33 AM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 02 October 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

X Grind.  Interesting.  Hoping for a raw or dark finish option, not loving the chrome.

Also, some of the wedges look like there is a weight port or something added into the port holes.  Other wedges look empty.  Here are 2 different variations:

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Good pickup. I wonder what the differences are in terms of weight? Might help lower the traj on the higher lofted irons.

The MD3s had the same weight system. Tungsten in the lower lifted wedges, steel powder in the middle and just painful in the high lofted wedges.

Huh?  I have owned about 10 MD3 wedges and none of them have any weight system in the port holes.

You're right; got my callaway products mixed up! The different materials are in the Apex series of irons. I am curious then why more weight would be added to the higher lofted wedges when you'd want to keep the ball flight down

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM

Saw the new wedges tonight...::they will be in the bag next year....

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:09 PM

View Posttherealjonzone, on 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 12:50 AM

View Posttherealjonzone, on 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Saw the new wedges tonight...::they will be in the bag next year....

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.

where'd you hit this at? sounds awesome.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:28 AM

View Postridr, on 06 October 2017 - 12:50 AM, said:

View Posttherealjonzone, on 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Saw the new wedges tonight...::they will be in the bag next year....

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.

where'd you hit this at? sounds awesome.

Connects my man, no pics due to the timing though.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:55 AM

View Posttherealjonzone, on 06 October 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

View Postridr, on 06 October 2017 - 12:50 AM, said:

View Posttherealjonzone, on 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Saw the new wedges tonight...::they will be in the bag next year....

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.

where'd you hit this at? sounds awesome.

Connects my man, no pics due to the timing though.

Timing ? Really ?
Anyway, exciting news...


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 08:38 AM

View PostAUDuffer, on 05 October 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 05 October 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

View PostAUDuffer, on 04 October 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

View PostGary Gutful, on 03 October 2017 - 06:33 AM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 02 October 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

X Grind.  Interesting.  Hoping for a raw or dark finish option, not loving the chrome.

Also, some of the wedges look like there is a weight port or something added into the port holes.  Other wedges look empty.  Here are 2 different variations:

Posted Image


Posted Image
Good pickup. I wonder what the differences are in terms of weight? Might help lower the traj on the higher lofted irons.

The MD3s had the same weight system. Tungsten in the lower lifted wedges, steel powder in the middle and just painful in the high lofted wedges.

Huh?  I have owned about 10 MD3 wedges and none of them have any weight system in the port holes.

You're right; got my callaway products mixed up! The different materials are in the Apex series of irons. I am curious then why more weight would be added to the higher lofted wedges when you'd want to keep the ball flight down

Could just be different weight/swing weight options for tour players. A lot of guys love heavy wedges and these could be tour only weight plug options so guys don't immediately litter their beautiful new wedges with lead tape.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:00 AM

View Posttherealjonzone, on 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Saw the new wedges tonight...::they will be in the bag next year....

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.
Oh boy, can't wait to hear guys say they put a Rogue shaft in a Rogue head and now they are "Rogued out."
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:16 AM

View PostLacey Underall, on 06 October 2017 - 09:00 AM, said:

View Posttherealjonzone, on 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Saw the new wedges tonight...::they will be in the bag next year....

Also, hit the new Fairway called the Rogue and it felt incredible. Jailbreak tech in a glued hosel and the sole is phenomenal.
Oh boy, can't wait to hear guys say they put a Rogue shaft in a Rogue head and now they are "Rogued out."

Or they've "gone completely rogue"

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

Hmmm...As a long time Cally fan, I was ready to give up on their irons.  Never liked the Apex line and it looked as if X forged was dead.  Now this.  Still, it doesn't really move the needle.  Worse, I am having a tough time seeing anything by way of performance improvement.  Not that I was looking for it since after all it is a small CB iron, but the new design just doesn't resonate in the toe area.  I like the more asymmetrical of the 2013 model.  I don't know about the design specifics, but this new one looks less forgiving off toe; maybe it is just all cosmetics.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:41 PM

Release date on these? I assume around next march?

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:56 PM

Damn so beautiful, wonder if they'll let us customize colors this time

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:00 PM

I love Callaway..but where can you seriously improve upon the wedges before these?
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:20 PM

I don't see any PM GRINDS gahhh!! Have they seriously done away with the PM grind? My heart will be broken... :(

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:40 PM

View PostCasualLie, on 06 October 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Hmmm...As a long time Cally fan, I was ready to give up on their irons.  Never liked the Apex line and it looked as if X forged was dead.  Now this.  Still, it doesn't really move the needle.  Worse, I am having a tough time seeing anything by way of performance improvement.  Not that I was looking for it since after all it is a small CB iron, but the new design just doesn't resonate in the toe area.  I like the more asymmetrical of the 2013 model.  I don't know about the design specifics, but this new one looks less forgiving off toe; maybe it is just all cosmetics.

View PostCasualLie, on 06 October 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Hmmm...As a long time Cally fan, I was ready to give up on their irons.  Never liked the Apex line and it looked as if X forged was dead.  Now this.  Still, it doesn't really move the needle.  Worse, I am having a tough time seeing anything by way of performance improvement.  Not that I was looking for it since after all it is a small CB iron, but the new design just doesn't resonate in the toe area.  I like the more asymmetrical of the 2013 model.  I don't know about the design specifics, but this new one looks less forgiving off toe; maybe it is just all cosmetics.

Your entire post is you contradicting yourself. Weird.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:47 PM

View PostDancingShadows, on 08 October 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

I don't see any PM GRINDS gahhh!! Have they seriously done away with the PM grind? My heart will be broken... :(

I feel your pain.  Hopefully they do not discontinue the current PM grinds...


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:43 PM

I'm not feeling those wedges. A very blinding chrome finishing with red lines, circles, etc. It's just so busy. Every year they add more. Will be interesting to see how they feel and perform. I had a hard time dialing in the 3s for some reason.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 05:25 AM

View Postmcgrath22, on 08 October 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

I'm not feeling those wedges. A very blinding chrome finishing with red lines, circles, etc. It's just so busy. Every year they add more. Will be interesting to see how they feel and perform. I had a hard time dialing in the 3s for some reason.
Simple solution to that. Buy the black satin and use some paint stripper to take all the paint fill off. Then dip in CLR overnight and you have some clean raw wedges.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:16 AM

View PostImChrisBosh, on 08 October 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

Damn so beautiful, wonder if they'll let us customize colors this time

Havne't they already been doing this for like two years on wedges?

View PostLacey Underall, on 09 October 2017 - 05:25 AM, said:

View Postmcgrath22, on 08 October 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

I'm not feeling those wedges. A very blinding chrome finishing with red lines, circles, etc. It's just so busy. Every year they add more. Will be interesting to see how they feel and perform. I had a hard time dialing in the 3s for some reason.
Simple solution to that. Buy the black satin and use some paint stripper to take all the paint fill off. Then dip in CLR overnight and you have some clean raw wedges.

For the record, there is a huge difference in glare between polished chrome and satin chrome.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:16 AM

Wouldn’t they want to keep the X forged ho hum to steer players looking for distance towards epic?

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:05 AM

View Postwldchld22, on 09 October 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:

Wouldn't they want to keep the X forged ho hum to steer players looking for distance towards epic?

Not necessarily. Two different player categories for the most part. Most guys who want new players forged cavity backs will likely be impressed with a few extra yards and more likely to buy. Even though distance is basically the most unrelated thing to lower scores in this player category, people always seem to be impressed with additional yards.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:27 AM

Clarification, because I didn't see it called out (I may have missed it).

Are these cast or forged? (the MD4)

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:45 AM

View Post1lovesputters, on 10 October 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

Clarification, because I didn't see it called out (I may have missed it).

Are these cast or forged? (the MD4)

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:07 AM

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 09:25 PM

Anyone else notice how the toe area without grooves is huge on these wedges?  I wonder if that's how they "center the COG".  Instead of actually moving the COG, they just shift the grooves over so the COG is in the center of the grooves.  These are like the opposite of the PM grind clubs.  Good luck hitting the open faced, high in the rough shot with the MD-4's.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:57 AM

View PostIHFN, on 11 October 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

Anyone else notice how the toe area without grooves is huge on these wedges?  I wonder if that's how they "center the COG".  Instead of actually moving the COG, they just shift the grooves over so the COG is in the center of the grooves.  These are like the opposite of the PM grind clubs.  Good luck hitting the open faced, high in the rough shot with the MD-4's.

I feel like a lot of wedged look like that lately. They definitely look weird to me.


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