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#31 suprfli6

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:58 AM

Mean Average:  249 with a Driver (Cobra Fly-Z @ 11.5)  

Tagged two this year, one in July and one in August at 286 and 292, respectively.


Only 6 times in my life have I hit a drive 300+ from the tee.    
None resulted in birdie.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.

I only saw one post that fits what you describe above and that poster said he averaged much less than that, just that he occasionally hit one 275 when he really got one

As you say, 105 ss and 275 carry is possible with perfect smash factor. Now no one is going to "average" a perfect smash. But the poster didn't claim to unless I missed a post
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:24 AM

54 and 5'9", 165 lbs:

Good driving on the course is 280. Poor around 250, best this year, was best ever and surpassed "good" by quite a lot, hit a 48* PW 125 yards in smooth comfort,  180 yds w/a 27* 5i.

Saw a genuine WRXer, 2 days a go. Guy's ball was towering 100+ feet at 250 yards out, he must of been going at least 350 with his bombs,

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:28 AM

Calm wind
Flat fairway
Normal dry conditions
Age 62
SS 93 mph
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short drives = 215 yds
longer drives = 245 yds
I occasionally drive ouside of this envelope.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:33 AM

I'm 40 with SS over 110. My drives average around 265. I get very little to almost no roll most days. I can occasionally crank one out there in the 280 to 290 range. To me those are bombs. I hit a 300 yard ball only once in a blue moon or when, like yesterday, I had a huge amount of wind at my back and that fairway played firm. My 3 wood is probably only about 10 yards shorter than my average drive, if that. Wish I could find a driver that felt and performed the way it does.

It's hard to give iron distances exactly. My number in my head for an iron isn't my max. It's short a few yards so that, to me, it's my normal solid swing. On occasion I'll squeeze a little bit more out of it if the situation makes it the right call. That being said 153 is my 9 iron number. But I'm hitting Speedblades which are longer and had stronger lofts than most.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

View PostMtlJeff, on 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.

I only saw one post that fits what you describe above and that poster said he averaged much less than that, just that he occasionally hit one 275 when he really got one

As you say, 105 ss and 275 carry is possible with perfect smash factor. Now no one is going to "average" a perfect smash. But the poster didn't claim to unless I missed a post
275 carry with 105ss is not possible even with perfect smash, launch, and spin afaik. And I didn't really mean to pick on one guy, it's just that this whole discussion gets rehashed every couple weeks it feels like, and a whole lot of people operate under different meanings for "average".

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:05 AM

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

View PostMtlJeff, on 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.

I only saw one post that fits what you describe above and that poster said he averaged much less than that, just that he occasionally hit one 275 when he really got one

As you say, 105 ss and 275 carry is possible with perfect smash factor. Now no one is going to "average" a perfect smash. But the poster didn't claim to unless I missed a post
275 carry with 105ss is not possible even with perfect smash, launch, and spin afaik. And I didn't really mean to pick on one guy, it's just that this whole discussion gets rehashed every couple weeks it feels like, and a whole lot of people operate under different meanings for "average".

I had a few 272 carries with a 102-103 SS when I was at callaway last December. This was on their LM they use for the pros. I hit probably 30-40 drives with epic and on some hits the smash factor was perfect. Numbers were something like 15 degrees launch and 2000rpm. So either their LM was wrong or its possible to do.

This discussion does happen too much I agree

I have yet to see a thread asking who is the most accurate iron player in 8 yrs here

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:22 AM

View PostMtlJeff, on 02 October 2017 - 09:05 AM, said:

This discussion does happen too much I agree

I have yet to see a thread asking who is the most accurate iron player in 8 yrs here
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:53 AM

At 23 I have peaked for swing speed IMO, currently at 118 average. My carry averages about 290 currently, total averages just over 300. I have a tendency to play a draw as of late which helps with the roll out obviously. I need of a driver shaft fitting for sure, the 915 D4 knuckles with my current shaft. Any suggestions for my current set up would be greatly appreciated!

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:31 AM

age 37, 18hcp, 5'6.  measured on the gps, typically around 230 (with roll) on soft, hilly fairways (been a really wet summer).  have taken a few to 250 while staying on the planet, but can't really count that towards the average.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:32 AM

I'm 38, 5'7", 5 handicap.  Play most of my golf at sea level.  I average around 270 off the tee, with good strikes carrying about 265.  When I play on harder fairways or out in the desert, my average distance will jump up to around 290.  Not sure of current swing speed, but probably in the 107-109 range.

Earlier this year I had been doing the Superspeed overspeed training and gained quite a bit of swing speed.  In June I had a stretch where I was averaging in the high 290s and had multiple rounds over 300 yards.  When I got on a launch monitor during this time, a solid aggressive swing was in the 115-119mph range and I was carrying the ball 285-290.  Unfortunately, little injuries and illnesses started stacking up and I quit the overspeed training the past few months.  I want to get back into it, since it was making such a huge difference in my driving performance.

Played a tourney this weekend on the coast and averaged 262 off the tee, with a long of 305 and short of 226.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:52 AM

I cant hit a driver so no idea probably 265-280 at 103-108 SS

I play my 3W at 240 avg with a horrific max carry of 220

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:54 AM

Just got fitted on trackman 2 weeks ago. Here are my averages. I'm at sea level. 43 years old

Driver swing speed 112
Driver ballspeed 167
Aoa +5
Average carry 285

6 iron swing speed 94
6 iron ballspeed 135
Average carry 195

Just played this weekend in Nova
180 yard par 3 uphill
192 to the back
Made a aggressive 7 iron swing and carried back fringe.

Handicaps and distance are not equitable partners. I personally know guys that are scratch and have 186mph ballspeed with driver, and I also know some scratch players who have 150mph ballspeed with driver. Same goes for higher handicaps as well.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:08 PM

I'd be curious as to how responders calculate carry distance. I don't have trackman numbers since I was fitted 3 years ago (and certainly don't recall what they were), but I have a bunker on a dogleg left that typically needs a 240 yard carry to clear. If I hit it well with no wind assist, my ball hits the lip of that bunker and rolls back to the flat. How's that for scientific?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:11 PM

41 years old, 6.7 index, usually generate high-nineties club head speed with driver.  Consider my 35 degree 7 iron to be 162 yards.  Usually fly driver 235 or 240 I'd guess.  I'm usually impressed if with roll and all I'm further than 250 yards from the tee box.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:13 PM

I am 45 y/o, index 3.3, love to hit my driver...

Driver SS: 109-111
Carry: 272-277
Spin: 1900-2100
Total: 292-295

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:17 PM

View Postfinleysg, on 02 October 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

I'd be curious as to how responders calculate carry distance. I don't have trackman numbers since I was fitted 3 years ago (and certainly don't recall what they were), but I have a bunker on a dogleg left that typically needs a 240 yard carry to clear. If I hit it well with no wind assist, my ball hits the lip of that bunker and rolls back to the flat. How's that for scientific?

Personally, I go by my laser. My numbers still arent exact, I think I round up my average iron carries. Like, my 7 iron probably carries 168 (instead of 170) more often than not...but its hard to tell if that has more to do with slope, conditions, equipment, or varying swing speeds

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:21 PM

32, 5'10", 160lbs

Swing speed ~108 MPH

Carry ~270

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:31 PM

View Postfinleysg, on 02 October 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

I'd be curious as to how responders calculate carry distance. I don't have trackman numbers since I was fitted 3 years ago (and certainly don't recall what they were), but I have a bunker on a dogleg left that typically needs a 240 yard carry to clear. If I hit it well with no wind assist, my ball hits the lip of that bunker and rolls back to the flat. How's that for scientific?
With irons/wedges it's pretty easy since I have a laser, just shoot the pin and check where my pitch mark is. Yesterday the pin on the 8th hole was 170 yards and all three of my 7 irons pitched pin high or a few yards short. I play for a 165-170 carry with my 7i so that matches.

With driver I go by the left bunker on the second hole at my home course, it's a flat hole and from the blues it's 265 to carry it. I have flown it a handful of times but normally if I hit it on that line I land just short (250ish) and either bounce into it or over it, or fly it straight in.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:53 PM

View PostMtlJeff, on 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.

I only saw one post that fits what you describe above and that poster said he averaged much less than that, just that he occasionally hit one 275 when he really got one

As you say, 105 ss and 275 carry is possible with perfect smash factor. Now no one is going to "average" a perfect smash. But the poster didn't claim to unless I missed a post
You didn't miss a post.  I guess I should have clarified what an "imperfect" smash factor is here since we have so many physicists on the site.  Since my stats posted were not anything ridiculous (Driver carry of 240 to 275), its kind of hard to believe I'd be lying about that - but wtfe.  My smash factor in the fittings was between 1.41 and 1.48, and I would consider 1.5 to be "optimum").

I based my distance averages on observations on the course -  not from trackman, so maybe some discrepancy there. Anyway, if superfli6 thinks a 255 average carry is impossible for a 101-105 SS, I guess he just needs come tee it up with me!  Cheers

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:54 PM

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

View PostMtlJeff, on 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.

I only saw one post that fits what you describe above and that poster said he averaged much less than that, just that he occasionally hit one 275 when he really got one

As you say, 105 ss and 275 carry is possible with perfect smash factor. Now no one is going to "average" a perfect smash. But the poster didn't claim to unless I missed a post
275 carry with 105ss is not possible even with perfect smash, launch, and spin afaik. And I didn't really mean to pick on one guy, it's just that this whole discussion gets rehashed every couple weeks it feels like, and a whole lot of people operate under different meanings for "average".

How about down wind ? Or is every hole you play into the wind ?

Plus you said responses, plural. Where are the other ones ?

And if yer gonna troll someone at least you could quote the guy. He claimed 255 average, 240 to 275 during a round.


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My driver SS is between 101 and 105, based on a series of shaft fittings this year. Driver carry average is 255, so in a round I'll have some at 240 and some at 275.  

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:04 PM

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

View PostMtlJeff, on 02 October 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It's funny in a thread with this title to have responses that are stretching the truth or worse. 275 carry with 101-105 clubhead speed and less-than-perfect smash factor? Not with conforming equipment unless you've got major wind or slope help.

I only saw one post that fits what you describe above and that poster said he averaged much less than that, just that he occasionally hit one 275 when he really got one

As you say, 105 ss and 275 carry is possible with perfect smash factor. Now no one is going to "average" a perfect smash. But the poster didn't claim to unless I missed a post
275 carry with 105ss is not possible even with perfect smash, launch, and spin afaik. And I didn't really mean to pick on one guy, it's just that this whole discussion gets rehashed every couple weeks it feels like, and a whole lot of people operate under different meanings for "average".
Glad to have you out to play a round.  I think if you read what I wrote, you may see things differently.  If you think a 275 carry is "impossible" then you are wrong.  Maybe my SS is a little higher on those occasions, maybe I hit the sweet spot perfectly, I'm not sure - all I know is I see where the ball lands, I laser the course features from the tee box, and I know where the GPS tells me the ball stops - so I know total distance. I know how far the course features are = so if the bunker lip is 265 and I clear it, I know it went that far.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:12 PM

View Postsuprfli6, on 02 October 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

View Postfinleysg, on 02 October 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

I'd be curious as to how responders calculate carry distance. I don't have trackman numbers since I was fitted 3 years ago (and certainly don't recall what they were), but I have a bunker on a dogleg left that typically needs a 240 yard carry to clear. If I hit it well with no wind assist, my ball hits the lip of that bunker and rolls back to the flat. How's that for scientific?
With irons/wedges it's pretty easy since I have a laser, just shoot the pin and check where my pitch mark is. Yesterday the pin on the 8th hole was 170 yards and all three of my 7 irons pitched pin high or a few yards short. I play for a 165-170 carry with my 7i so that matches.

With driver I go by the left bunker on the second hole at my home course, it's a flat hole and from the blues it's 265 to carry it. I have flown it a handful of times but normally if I hit it on that line I land just short (250ish) and either bounce into it or over it, or fly it straight in.
Pretty much the same way you calculate it - I laser the features, I laser or GPS where the ball hit the ground (when its' soft and I get no roll).
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:26 PM

250 - 270 avg....290 is the best I can do and a rarity.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:37 PM

A lot of courses over water their fairways and you can see where your drive landed because it makes a ball mark.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

View Postfinleysg, on 02 October 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

I'd be curious as to how responders calculate carry distance. I don't have trackman numbers since I was fitted 3 years ago (and certainly don't recall what they were), but I have a bunker on a dogleg left that typically needs a 240 yard carry to clear. If I hit it well with no wind assist, my ball hits the lip of that bunker and rolls back to the flat. How's that for scientific?

My drives are usually within feet of my pitch mark. Soft fairways at most courses I play combined with my "have no clue what I'm doing self fitting of clubs" keeps me from getting any roll. I'm ecstatic when I do get some. I will only measure mine via GPS, first marking at the tee spot and then checking it at the ball. And that's only on the 4 flat holes we have on the course. Can't go by the others as you're hitting from an elevated tee box or into a uphill fairway. I hit +300 yards drives on our first hole all the time. Downhill all the way :)

I've played my home course at least 900 times since I got a membership years ago so I've got a good idea of how far I am from center of the green on each hole on average.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:58 PM

14.9 handicap - 31 years old - 5'7" probably 240 lbs.

Arccos tells me that over my last 10 rounds, I'm looking at 244 average. That's total yardage, of course. Low side is 225, high side is 261.

I get very little roll so I expect my carry to be just about all of the distance.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:15 PM

View Postfinleysg, on 02 October 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

I'd be curious as to how responders calculate carry distance. I don't have trackman numbers since I was fitted 3 years ago (and certainly don't recall what they were), but I have a bunker on a dogleg left that typically needs a 240 yard carry to clear. If I hit it well with no wind assist, my ball hits the lip of that bunker and rolls back to the flat. How's that for scientific?

I play early and so it is very easy to see where my drives landed and rolled out to. I use laser, gps and good ole fashioned 1 yard step count off as I walk.

I can easily tell carry and total.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:21 PM

I probably carry it 285 to 290, yes I know hit me with the jokes.  I'm 6'4 and swing at 120mph. 3 wood 265. 7 iron 180-185.

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