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#31 Palmetto Golfer

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:07 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 02 October 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

We have actually done some really cool stuff. 1. We made a straight line putting string device with and put beads on it. He is working on putting stroke and consistency. Beads are to move on the string to spot the ball for putts of distances you are working on. 2. Bought a SKLZ putting mirror to make sure his eyeline is in the appropriate place. 3. Work on lag putting drills. Constantly preach that the ball need to go past the hole. Don't care if it is 8 ft. by, but it needs to go past the hole. Want him to feel like it is OK to run it by. Take the fear out of running it by. 4. Work on Chipping to get better approximatey to the hole. Constantly preach that the ball need to go past the hole. Don't care if it is 8 ft. by, but it needs to go past the hole. Want him to feel like it is OK to run it by. Take the fear out of running it by. 5. Work on approximatey to the hole with iron shots. So far, all seems to slowly be coming together. Really trying to change his mindset.

Sounds like you are on the right track to me.  I have told you this before but it bears the repeating for anyone that is working with their child on putting.  The worst mistake I ever made was to get frustrated that my son was running putts way past the hole.  DON'T DO THAT!!!  unfortunately, your child will listen to you and leave it short!!!  It took a long time to break him of the short putt habit.

The drill that really helped my son was the drill you mentioned in a previous post.  That is have him putt to a tee that is 3' off the edge of the green.  The ball has to stop between the tee and edge.  I put tees 15, 18, 21, 24 and 27 feet away. If the ball stops between the tee and green he moves back.  if it doesn't he moves forward.  He cannot stop until he is successful at 27'.  Tough drill.

Keep it up and please keep updating the thread and what is happening.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:42 PM

Couple of things that really helped me:
1. Get really good at 6 foot putts. If you feel like you can make all 6 footers then it becomes easier to lag putt. Basically expand your circle from get it inside 3 feet to get it inside 6 feet.
2. Get better at chipping and pitching. Should be able to get most inside of 6 foot, then again you are inside your always make circle. If most of your chips are tapins you don't have to putt very much.
3. "Putting out of your mind" book helped me with my attitude. Basically think you are putting to make everything. Not trying to get it close. Not trying not to 3 putt. All putts are makeable, putt every putt like that's the goal.
Good speed drills:
1. ladder drill. putt a ball down at 3',6',9', 12', 15'... and putt to the same hole
2. putt to the edge of the green see if you can stop it close as you can to the edge. This gets you just focusing on speed and distance control only.
3. In the putting book Bob mentions when you warm up or practice just with one ball. drop and putt it out just like you would in a round. Don't drop a bunch of balls and work on the same putt.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:50 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 27 September 2017 - 10:02 AM, said:

The one thing he doesn't need is more drills.  He doesn't need more distance either as he is plenty long enough for a 12 year old.  Generally speaking on a course of 6000 yards the most club he will have into a Par 4 is a 7i.  Occasionally on a bad drive he may have to dip down to a 4i or 5i.  He doesn't even carry a hybrid and opts for a 3i.  Yes, a 12 year old that can hit a 3i.

A lot of good things in this thread that we do talk about.
1.  Have to think your a good putter to believe your a good putter.
2.  If you want to make more birdies then you need to improve your approximatey to the hole.
3.  You need to make sure your chips are within 6 feet.
4.  Try to get him to think about just putting a good roll on the ball.

I think the biggest thing is that he doesn't think he is a good putter.  I believe he is a good putter, but I need him to believe he is a good putter.  We do plenty of drill so that he sees the ball going into the cup to give him confidence.  When we get to the course he kind of stiffens up.  It is similar to the guy that can make 9 of 10 free throws in practice.  He gets to the game and he is a career 50% FT shooter.  It is definitely something upstairs and trying to make a connection with it.

I'll add one to your list:

5.  You need to LOVE to putt!

This comes to some naturally, others have to learn to love it, but either way it's crucial.  Putting is the ultimate equalizer.  Putts made can be like daggers to your competitors, even if they're hitting it better than you.   It also helps to fortify your own confidence.  Making that clutch 7 to 15 footer can make such a huge difference in holding it all together.

Additional observations being around the game for many years - most players (even pretty good ones and not just juniors) miss over 90% of breaking putts longer than 12 feet on the low side, and most do not get long uphill putts (25'+) to the hole.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 06:05 PM

View PostPalmetto Golfer, on 28 September 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

Hey Heavy,

As you said in your previous post, confidence is everything.  if you are not making putts, you lose confidence. If you lose confidence, then you cannot make any putts. It is a vicious cycle. My son has had trouble with distance control before.  Mostly, he would leave them way short.  It was like he was afraid to hit the ball. Here are a couple of ideas I would try and have worked:
  • "If you don't think you can, you are right" this is my favorite quote to use for my boys.  I use it all the time and for any sport they play
  • Roll over a spot. My son started to use this method and it worked well for him.  His main goal when over the ball is to roll the ball over a spot that he has picked out.  This seemed to take out some of the anxiety about 3 putting.  Just focus on rollling it over the spot.
  • Do not focus on the results. You cannot perform if you mind is more concerned about the results rather than what it takes to get good results.
  • Arrogant - yes...he needs to become a little arrogant when a club, esp. the putter, is put in his hands.  This goes back to the confidence thing.  This is just another way to try and get it.  I tell my son all the time before an event that if he doesn't believe that he is the best golfer on the course...then don't get out of the car.  Let's go home.  When you are off the course...lose the arrogance! HA!
You have probably tried one if not all of these.  I know it is frustrating but I do believe this.  He is having a good problem right now.  I believe at his age if all you are worried about is putting then things are going well.  You will not have a birdie putt without a good approach shot and you will not have a good approach shot if you cannot get off the tee.  I was given advice from the father of a web.com tour player.  He said he didn't do it like everyone else. He had his son up to age 13-14 working mostly on his swing.  getting the proper technique. Yes his son lost tournaments do to short game but that all changed when he was 14-15.  He had his swing set and then focused on the short game. Meanwhile, the kids who used to win were still searching for their swing.  At that age, if you are searching for your swing then you are also searching in the woods for your ball!!!

Good luck and let us know how it is going.

This is so true

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 12:30 PM

From Zen Golf by Dr. Joseph Parent

Big Mind Exercise

On a level area of the putting green, place a ball about twenty feet from a hole, with the flag removed.  Set up for the putt, focusing on the hole, and get a feel for the distance from the ball to the hole.  Now close your eyes, walk toward the hole, and, holding the putter by the head, try to put the grip end of the putter into the hole. (Don't count your steps; just put the putter grip down when you think you've gotten to the hole.)

How did you do? Most people stop short of the hole.  They may start taking smaller, tentative steps as they get near the point where they think the hole is, as if they're not allowed to go past it.  The hole is the assumed limit, the end of the 'box' they can't go outside of.  Their mind is only as big as the space between the ball and the hole.

Now set up to the putt again, but this time look beyond the hole.  Expand your view to the far edge of the green, then come back to the hole, seeing it within the larger space.  Now walk again with eyes closed and try to put the grip end of the putter in the hole.  This time you were probably much closer to the hole, or even a little bit beyond it.  That's the impact of letting your mind be bigger.

When you focus tightly on the hole, your mind is smaller and your world is more constricted.  The first time you did the exercise, you probably slowed down as you thought you were getting near the hole.  If the hole were at 'the edge of the world,' you would be careful not to go beyond it and fall off.

If we focus so tightly on the hole that there's nothing in our mind past it, it becomes the edge of our world.  We don't want to send our ball over the edge, so we subconsciously try to just barely get it to the hole.

There is also an optical counterpart to this psychological effect.  Visually focusing tightly on an object foreshortens the perceived distance to that object.  In other words, it looks closer than it actually is.  Combine that with being afraid to go past the hole, and the ball never gets there.  There's one reason why we leave our putts short so often.  

When getting ready to putt, let your view include more of the green and see the distance to the hole within that bigger space.

Bigger space, bigger mind.  Bigger mind, better results.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 12:52 PM

View Postleezer99, on 03 October 2017 - 12:30 PM, said:

From Zen Golf by Dr. Joseph Parent

Big Mind Exercise

On a level area of the putting green, place a ball about twenty feet from a hole, with the flag removed.  Set up for the putt, focusing on the hole, and get a feel for the distance from the ball to the hole.  Now close your eyes, walk toward the hole, and, holding the putter by the head, try to put the grip end of the putter into the hole. (Don't count your steps; just put the putter grip down when you think you've gotten to the hole.)

How did you do? Most people stop short of the hole.  They may start taking smaller, tentative steps as they get near the point where they think the hole is, as if they're not allowed to go past it.  The hole is the assumed limit, the end of the 'box' they can't go outside of.  Their mind is only as big as the space between the ball and the hole.

Now set up to the putt again, but this time look beyond the hole.  Expand your view to the far edge of the green, then come back to the hole, seeing it within the larger space.  Now walk again with eyes closed and try to put the grip end of the putter in the hole.  This time you were probably much closer to the hole, or even a little bit beyond it.  That's the impact of letting your mind be bigger.

When you focus tightly on the hole, your mind is smaller and your world is more constricted.  The first time you did the exercise, you probably slowed down as you thought you were getting near the hole.  If the hole were at 'the edge of the world,' you would be careful not to go beyond it and fall off.

If we focus so tightly on the hole that there's nothing in our mind past it, it becomes the edge of our world.  We don't want to send our ball over the edge, so we subconsciously try to just barely get it to the hole.

There is also an optical counterpart to this psychological effect.  Visually focusing tightly on an object foreshortens the perceived distance to that object.  In other words, it looks closer than it actually is.  Combine that with being afraid to go past the hole, and the ball never gets there.  There's one reason why we leave our putts short so often.  

When getting ready to putt, let your view include more of the green and see the distance to the hole within that bigger space.

Bigger space, bigger mind.  Bigger mind, better results.

My son actually has Zen Golf.  I haven't read it, but I am going to ask him about this.  I have actually mentioned to him before about seeing the entire green rather than just the hole.  This is very interesting.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 01:01 PM

Two great drills we work on a lot.  Probably my favorite two drills.  The putting drill I got was from a book called "The Champion's Brain" by Bill Hamilton.  The chipping drill from his coach.

Champion's Brain Putting Drill
You have 3 balls and putt three times from 6 spots which give you an 18 hole round.  We putt from distances between 10 and 50 feet.  Depending on how well or bad he is doing I will mix them up.  I always start with a 15-18 foot putt.  I always make sure he has 1 spot from 10 feet.   If he drains those three I am going to give him the 50 footer at some point.  I give him straight putts and curved putts.  The idea is to be 3 under through 18 holes.  Something very hard to do if you are three putting.

9 hole chipping
You have one ball and you are going to chip it 9 times from 9 different spots from varying distances to force to use anything from a 7i to a 60.  You chip then go attempt the putt and then you start the next hole.  The goal is to be 3 over or less.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:13 AM

CONFIDENCE.....

Regardless of age....

CONFIDENCE


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:16 AM

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CONFIDENCE.....

Regardless of age....

CONFIDENCE


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I am glad you posted.  Have been wondering how you are and how your treatments were going.  Haven't seen you around in a while and was praying for the best.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:48 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 23 October 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 23 October 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

CONFIDENCE.....

Regardless of age....

CONFIDENCE


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I am glad you posted.  Have been wondering how you are and how your treatments were going.  Haven't seen you around in a while and was praying for the best.
Hey Bro, how goes it?

Thanks so much for the thoughts and Prayers!!

Yea, had a couple of transfusions and then the chemo so a few long weeks, lol

I hope that all’s well and you’re launchin em deep🏌️

Stay well my Friend👊
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:22 PM

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Found this video tonight from Sean Foley.  Really puts putting into perspective.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:53 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 14 November 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

https://www.facebook...55076883518443/

Found this video tonight from Sean Foley.  Really puts putting into perspective.

Great stuff right there!

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:37 PM

View Postdarter79, on 14 November 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 14 November 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

https://www.facebook...55076883518443/

Found this video tonight from Sean Foley.  Really puts putting into perspective.

Great stuff right there!

Just watched all the videos and now I want to go to his camp.  Can a 40+ year old with a bad back and a bad swing pass for a junior?

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:49 AM

In speaking to confidence, Part II....

I’m speaking to real deep seeded confidence, that when all the chips are on the table, the pressure would gag most of his Buds and choke the rest, he quietly and confidently goes through his PSR, then steps in and rolls it home.

And if he misses?

Shat happens and flukes happen.

He quickly in his PostSR analyzes what, if anything, went wrong and then FORGETS it.

Forever!!!

It’s like when a reporter asked Jack after a Champions Tourney if he ever missed a 5’ putt with either the lead or the Tourney on the line and he said three consecutive times, “No, NEVER,” even though there was at least one video clip of Jack doing just that 2 weeks prior.

Ya see, in Jack’s mind, he didn’t just forget that putt, IT NEVER HAPPENED!!

THAT is the mentality that one needs to be a great putter.

Your Son May not be Jack though he will be The Very Best that he can be!!

That’s all you, he or anyone else can ask

How do ya get this confidence??

A whole lotta putts!!!

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 11:09 PM

Something that’s helped me is not being afraid to miss and always trying to make it


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Posted 30 December 2017 - 04:36 PM

Really great thread here, many things that i'm going to apply to my own game. Another one of my favourite, go-to thoughts is the feeling of "gaining control by giving up control", as Dr. Rotella put it. Accepting that making and missing putts are two sides of the same coin helps you shed any expectations of having to make a 6 footer, 2 putt a 40 footer and so on.

Again, awesome thread, looking forward to reading more replies!

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 09:53 PM

Just finished my college golf career this past spring.  I'd say the thing that really put my scoring over the edge was literally training myself to try and make every shot inside 125 yards or so.  Full wedges, pitches, chips, bunker shots, putts, it doesn't matter.  When I stopped worrying about 3 putting from 30 feet and trying to 1 putt instead everything starting coming together.  I'm not a drill person, I can't stay focused for that long but taking that mentality and competing against my teammates on the course with it helped me turn the corner.
Good luck!

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 11:03 PM

There are tons of great putting drills.  Seems you have a great grasp on them.  If speed is the main issue I wouldn’t putt to a target, most likely he’ll be focused on target, not speed.  Find an area on the practice green and roll a putt say 10ft, roll the next 11ft, then 12ft and so on.  Then work backwards, each putt just shorter then the previous.  Roll putts as close to the fringe as possible without rolling into the fringe.  When he plays, forget practice strokes and mechanics.  Pick a line and focus on solid contact.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 10:43 AM

If I failed to mention this prior....

It’s MENTAL😎

One Man, a HoFer and Legend, says “No Way”....

The other, THE Greatest of them all and an Icon, just laughs....

You tell me😉



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Posted 31 December 2017 - 11:08 AM

Competition Breeds Confidence!

Having been there and done that is the best feeling in the world when you have a 6 footer to win.

Practicing and playing against better players (both kids and adults) will make them better. They learn through emulation.

Have your son (or daughter) compete while putting & chipping. Whether it's for match sticks, quarters, a Coke, pizza vs pot pie, video game/TV time, whatever.

Gradually work 'em up from running 20 - 3 footers & 20 - 4 footers without a miss to running 100 of the same and watch them grow. But make it something that's worth their time.

As mentioned, putting to the fringe is the best way I've found to work on touch. Throw down a dozen balls from everywhere on the green and start with rolling them all to within 2 feet from the edge and work down from there. A little imagination and incentive on your part will quickly result in their escalation in confidence. Good luck and do your best to keep it fun.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice.  Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry.  His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal in the least amount of time possible and he stops trying to make putts and just hits balls.  He now just does drills.  I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/.  Most of the drills he does is on this contraption.  His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup.  You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole.  It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole.  He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup.  When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts.  He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting.

Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend.  He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts.  He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.

Edited by heavy_hitter, 05 February 2018 - 10:44 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:28 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice.  Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry.  His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal rather than making putts.  He now just does drills.  I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/.  Most of the drills he does is on this contraption.  His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup.  You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole.  It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole.  He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup.  When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts.  He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting.

Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend.  He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts.  He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.
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Great job on those putting stats.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:57 AM

View Postleezer99, on 05 February 2018 - 10:28 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice.  Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry.  His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal rather than making putts.  He now just does drills.  I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/.  Most of the drills he does is on this contraption.  His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup.  You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole.  It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole.  He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup.  When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts.  He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting.

Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend.  He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts.  He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.
Why are you making me buy more stuff?!?!

Great job on those putting stats.

No one is making you buy it.... lol.  Out of all the dumb stuff we have, I would definitely recommend this one.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 11:16 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice.  Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry.  His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal in the least amount of time possible and he stops trying to make putts and just hits balls.  He now just does drills.  I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/.  Most of the drills he does is on this contraption.  His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup.  You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole.  It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole.  He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup.  When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts.  He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting.

Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend.  He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts.  He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.

https://www.puttout.golf/

your endorsement broke their website with traffic???

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 11:19 AM

View PostCTgolf, on 05 February 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice.  Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry.  His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal in the least amount of time possible and he stops trying to make putts and just hits balls.  He now just does drills.  I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/.  Most of the drills he does is on this contraption.  His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup.  You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole.  It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole.  He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup.  When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts.  He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting.

Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend.  He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts.  He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.

https://www.puttout.golf/

your endorsement broke their website with traffic???

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 12:18 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 05 February 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice.  Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry.  His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal in the least amount of time possible and he stops trying to make putts and just hits balls.  He now just does drills.  I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/.  Most of the drills he does is on this contraption.  His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup.  You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole.  It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole.  He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup.  When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts.  He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting.

Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend.  He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts.  He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.

https://www.puttout.golf/

your endorsement broke their website with traffic???

Probably.  I am that well known...  ;)

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 01:54 PM

There's numerous drills you can do for getting better at pace, reading greens, breaks, etc. but i'm going to have to channel Mr. Bob Rotella for this advice:

In order for your son/daughter to get better or show dramatic improvement, they must first have the confidence (as noted by others in this thread) to do so. Rotella says that you have to, daily (or as often as possible) recollect on positive experiences to foster positive outcomes.

before every round, or at the end of every practice session - have them hole multiple putts from 5-6'. get them used to seeing the ball go in the hole. then ask them to tell you how it felt (their swing, the sound, etc) -- it will instill in them what a pure putt and a positive outcome feels like. have them tell you just how far it broke, if it missed a divot/spike mark, etc.

if they make a key putt during a round -- have them write it down in a little book, if not during the round, after. be descriptive, get them to tell you a 'story' - make it fun !!! the night before a tourney, event, have them re-read some of their positive memories. it sets the table for success.

whatever you do, remind them to have fun.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 11:16 PM

A good piece off putting info for parents is the term putting par

I. T. works pretty well & especially for juniors who may not hit as many greens to calculate what a good number off putts per round is.

PPassumes for every missed green you will make 1 putt and for every GIR you’ll make 2 putts

So say you hit 9 greens
You’ll have 9*2 + 9*1 for a total of 27 putts for the day (expected ) and you’ll be able to tell how your child putted in comparison to An actual  number

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 07:29 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 05 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

We have changed some putting routines when it comes to practice. Have found that playing putting games with mine on a real cup just makes him angry. His focus is on winning or accomplishing the goal in the least amount of time possible and he stops trying to make putts and just hits balls. He now just does drills. I have implemented into his putting practice "The Putt Out" https://www.puttout....ut.golf/. Most of the drills he does is on this contraption. His focus changes into trying to get the ball into the hole rather than missing on a real cup. You have to hit the perfect putt to get it into the little hole. It has changed his focus because you have to hit a perfect putt with the perfect tempo and pace to get the ball into this hole. He now doesn't see misses that he will see when doing drills and games on a real cup. When he practices he usually does a 20 min-30 min session on the putt out working on 6-8 footers, then he uses it to practice 30, 40, and 50 foot lag putts. He will then use real cups to play a game we call "Champions Brain" or he will play 18 holes on putting on the practice green which he practices lags and reducing 3 putting. Since he has implemented this he has only played one tournament round which was this past weekend. He ended up with 24 putts and no 3 putts. He did miss 2 putts he should have made 6-8 feet, but he made 2 putts 8-12 feet and 3 putts outside of 20 feet.

Heavy,

Thank you for posting this.  On the PuttOut, does your son use this with breaking putts? I am assuming you need to angle it so that it has a chance to go into the small hole.

Awesome work on the 24 putt round.

Chris

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