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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:26 PM

Guess this was kinda expected? Taylor Made said to have violated several PXG patents.

Should get fun.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:30 PM

Is this in relation to the new TM irons with the foam stuff in the cavity?
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:31 PM

It's like Taylormade didn't even try to hide the fact that they copied not only the look, but every manufacturing process of PXG in relation to the P790. Strange move.

Edited by PowderedToastMan, 12 September 2017 - 03:32 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:34 PM

View Postebrasmus21, on 12 September 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Is this in relation to the new TM irons with the foam stuff in the cavity?

You mean these?

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:40 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 12 September 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Is this in relation to the new TM irons with the foam stuff in the cavity?

You mean these?

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The plot thickens.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:41 PM

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:41 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 12 September 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Is this in relation to the new TM irons with the foam stuff in the cavity?

You mean these?

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Like to see the patent on that AND how it is even close to what PXG has done.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:46 PM

Putting foam inside of the iron is hardly patentable (well it might be, but that would be a patent that could easily be nullified on challenge). Without reading the suit and the patents involved it's impossible to know if TM actually did infringe on some part of PXG's manufacturing process for getting the foam in there.

If this was any other company but PXG, I would assume they were launching this suit in an attempt to get TM to just buy them.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:47 PM

Surely TM knew this was coming well before launching the product. They must fee like they have a legit stance here.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:47 PM

View Postarbeck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Putting foam inside of the iron is hardly patentable (well it might be, but that would be a patent that could easily be nullified on challenge). Without reading the suit and the patents involved it's impossible to know if TM actually did infringe on some part of PXG's manufacturing process for getting the foam in there.

If this was any other company but PXG, I would assume they were launching this suit in an attempt to get TM to just buy them.

Maybe Bob was bored?

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:49 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 12 September 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Is this in relation to the new TM irons with the foam stuff in the cavity?

You mean these?

Posted Image


Like to see the patent on that AND how it is even close to what PXG has done.

Yeah, you're right.  It's probably the weight screws that PXG is pissed about.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM

Ferguson, feel free to jump in here and help with the investigation.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

Edited by BirdieBob, 12 September 2017 - 03:52 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:52 PM

View Postarbeck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Putting foam inside of the iron is hardly patentable (well it might be, but that would be a patent that could easily be nullified on challenge). Without reading the suit and the patents involved it's impossible to know if TM actually did infringe on some part of PXG's manufacturing process for getting the foam in there.

If this was any other company but PXG, I would assume they were launching this suit in an attempt to get TM to just buy them.
Taylormade is only worth maybe 500 million, I'm sure Bob could buy them with the change under his sofa cushions.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM

hmm I always wanted to try the 0311's but did not want to be tempted to spend that kind of money. Guess I should get these 790s before they are pulled off shelves....
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:56 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.


Tell that to Parsons!  :D
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:57 PM

I say they settle this on the course. Let DJ, Day and Rory play the irons for a year. If their world rankings go the path of Ko, Billy Ho, Zach Johnson & Charl Schwartzel then they are indeed PXG ripoffs!

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:57 PM

View Postebrasmus21, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Ferguson, feel free to jump in here and help with the investigation.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:57 PM

View PostChunk777, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

hmm I always wanted to try the 0311's but did not want to be tempted to spend that kind of money. Guess I should get these 790s before they are pulled off shelves....


Unfortunately, they don't have the same soft forged like feel that PXGs irons have according to a recent monitor trial by Michael Newton, so better give those PXGs a try before they raise the price.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:58 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.


Tell that to Parsons!  :D

Oh, I would, but I suspect the lawyers who are about to be personally enriched have been telling him something else.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:00 PM

The irons really do look a lot alike. But interested in hearing what patents they say were violated

This should be fun to monitor!


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:09 PM

This could be good.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:11 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

View PostChunk777, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

hmm I always wanted to try the 0311's but did not want to be tempted to spend that kind of money. Guess I should get these 790s before they are pulled off shelves....


Unfortunately, they don't have the same soft forged like feel that PXGs irons have according to a recent monitor trial by Michael Newton, so better give those PXGs a try before they raise the price.

The only thing those irons have over other top irons is a bigger price tag, that is it....
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:13 PM

Golf companies do this to each other all the time. Curious to see how this lion/bear fight will go down. If Parsons were smart he would just buy Taylormade

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:16 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.

How do you know PXG didn't purchase the patents?  The prior art could be 1998.

Edited by pinestreetgolf, 12 September 2017 - 04:17 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:19 PM

Well, I was interested in this..... but now I just want to look up more stuff like the guy jumping into the car in the gif above.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:34 PM

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.

but he gets a write off for the legal fees.  he dont care.

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#29 jmck

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:57 PM

View Postvsproto, on 12 September 2017 - 04:34 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.

but he gets a write off for the legal fees.  he dont care.

True enough, but I still find it ridiculous.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:02 PM

View Postvsproto, on 12 September 2017 - 04:34 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 12 September 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 12 September 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

^^^
According to Parsons it is "several patent infringements by TM"  whatever those might me...take a guess.  lol

It means he's getting ready to piss away a bunch of money on lawyers.  The idea that a foam filled golf club with screws in it isn't at this point covered by prior art is crazy talk.

but he gets a write off for the legal fees.  he dont care.

So he saves $0.34 tax dollars on each dollar he spends on this..........whooppeeeeeeee


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