Pepe8714, on 19 September 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:
A few thoughts:
1) the only thing that matters when hitting an iron (of any kind) is the descent angle and correlating spin. If that angle + spin gives acceptable results for your game to hold greens, that's all that matters. Not the loft, not the CG, not the number on the bottom, not the brand.
2) there is no debating that GI irons are more consistent, regardless of your skill level. Consistency can be measured directly by ball speed parameters, aka 'quality of strike'. On a blade iron, a 0.5" miss toward the toe or heel will cause a drastic drop in ball speed, while that same miss on a game improvement iron will have less of a ball speed drop. Assuming the swings are equal, ball speed rules all.
For what it's worth, I've played exclusively GI or muscle back blades the past 15 years.
And I think this is the key that a lot of people are missing. I've been fitting people for roughly 13 years and I have never had someone become shocked or angry that they are 1) hitting the ball higher, 2) with more spin, 3) longer, 4) straighter. All of these things, save for point 2, seem to be the knock on GI clubs. Why wouldn't you want to play something that helps with these? Even a good chunk of touring pros are moving to player's cavity backs because they understand that it is talent that can work a ball, not the size or design of a club.
All of that aside, I think point 2 is a non-argument. If you're hitting the ball higher, you don't need as much spin, and has been discussed previously, you don't need 7500 RPMs of spin to hold a green unless you're maybe playing Whistling Straits in the middle of a 2-month long heat wave and there is a tornado forming just off shore.
As for the original question in this thread, I'll do a repost of a thread I started that resulted in me getting flamed a lot. Basically between an M2 and iBlade 7i, at the same length with the same shaft, in the same flex, we saw roughly 4-5 yards difference in carry. So yes, they are longer, but it's physics, it has to go further because of more ball speed. The take-home conclusion though is that there is 5.5* difference in loft between these two clubs, so we would expect to see anywhere from 10-15 yards of difference, and we see at best half of that. So no, super "jacked" lofts are not that much longer provided you hit the club how you are supposed to hit it. You would still be hitting a 7i into a green with both clubs, just you would maybe have to swing a touch easier with the M2 vs. the iBlade.
Topic is here: http://www.golfwrx.c...-answer-is-yes/
Edited by phatchrisrules, 20 September 2017 - 07:23 AM.