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Wedge: Modus 115 or 125?

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#1 wis99ski

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:05 PM


I am having a hard time deciding weather to go with the 115 or 125.  I typically like a heavier shaft to stay smoother but have 0 clue what a 133g wedge shaft will feel and perform like vs. a 122g 115.  I am going to be putting them in my 53* and 57* . I am having a little trouble finding feedback comparisons between the two.  Thanks

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#2 wis99ski

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:29 AM

Has anyone here gamed the 115 and the 125 wedge or can comment on playing at 130g+ shaft? My club maker has to order them this morning and I'm on the fence
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:39 AM

Can't speak for the Modus wedge shafts, I'm sure they're great, but seeing your signature lists Modus3 120 shafts for irons and Vokey gap and lob wedges, I'd venture a guess that they've got Dynamic Gold in them.  From a purely weight standpoint, the Modus 125 with it's heavier weight will have a similar feel for static weight as what you currently play.  That said, don't count out using your same iron shaft soft stepped once in your wedges.  I've done this for a couple of years now and really like the way it works for me.  It keeps similar swing and static weight between irons and wedges and it also gives me approximately the same feel between irons and wedges with the added bonus of feeling a little softer and more muted with the wedges when making less than full passes, which I do frequently with a wedge.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:49 AM

View Postmwink822, on 12 September 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

Can't speak for the Modus wedge shafts, I'm sure they're great, but seeing your signature lists Modus3 120 shafts for irons and Vokey gap and lob wedges, I'd venture a guess that they've got Dynamic Gold in them.  From a purely weight standpoint, the Modus 125 with it's heavier weight will have a similar feel for static weight as what you currently play.  That said, don't count out using your same iron shaft soft stepped once in your wedges.  I've done this for a couple of years now and really like the way it works for me.  It keeps similar swing and static weight between irons and wedges and it also gives me approximately the same feel between irons and wedges with the added bonus of feeling a little softer and more muted with the wedges when making less than full passes, which I do frequently with a wedge.

I think that's a pretty good idea, although I think I may experiment with iron shafts in wedges with some KBS Tours I have laying around.  I just switched from Vokey to Mizuno T5. Side note I wanted more weight in my MP32s so Im having 120-X installed.. I may just pull the trigger on the Wedge 125s
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:21 AM

Never played the 115, but LOVE the 125 in my 54 & 58. Doesn't feel heavy at all. Smooth easy swing. Don't get a full 58 often, but do with my 54. Been through quite a few wedge shafts. Won't be switching again.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:46 AM

View PostOknows, on 12 September 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

Never played the 115, but LOVE the 125 in my 54 & 58. Doesn't feel heavy at all. Smooth easy swing. Don't get a full 58 often, but do with my 54. Been through quite a few wedge shafts. Won't be switching again.

That's great to hear!  Thats the way I am leaning also.  I also did some digging in the massive 'Pros switching to Nippon Modus" mega thread and found some great info in there as well.  I am not sure why I couldnt find it through google searching.  I think the 125 Wedge will be for me.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:17 PM

I've not played the Modus Wedge 115, but had previously play the 125 and loved them.  And, I'm in the process of re-shafting my Vokey's (50* and 56*) from the stock shaft to the 125s.  

Basically, the stock Vokey shaft -- TT DG S200 -- weighs just a few grams more than the Modus 125 cut to the exact same length.  For the 50*, it was 124g vs. 120g (Modus), and for the 56* it was 122g vs. 119g (Modus).  And, the old Vokey shafts had some leftover epoxy in the tip and some grip tape so the Modus is more or less exactly the same weight.

If you like most stock wedge shaft weights, you will have no problem with the Modus 125.  Plus, it's the best and smoothest feeling wedge shaft.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:15 PM

Played 120X in irons for quite some time, and tried both the 115/125 wedge shaft, and they felt completely dead to me.  Went with 120X in the wedges straight in and that worked really well (still playing them in the wedges, after switching to PX LZ in irons).

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but it may be worth considering if its not too late...

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:48 PM

Yeah no problem.  I guess if your looking for the 120 kick point profile the 115/125 is a bit different than that. I may screw around with iron shafts straight in at a later point as my wedge inventory grows.  For now I'll stick with the wedge specific Modus.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:24 AM

I play the modus 105s in my srixon's 5-AW, play the 115's in my 54 and 58 vokeys.  I tried the 125's in my wedges as well as the 105's and thought the 115's were the best fit for me, the weight matched better, but thats me. I would suggest trying them both, and see what works b/c you have the 120's in your current set....

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:47 AM

I tried the 115 in a ping glide 50 gap wedge for exactly one day.

It was so soft, spun so much, and flew so high for me that it was actually comical. The guy next to me at the range actually asked me how I hit the club so high. I just chuckled and said that the shaft was an experiment and it was not what I was looking for.

I literally hit the thing HIGHER than a full swing with my 60 lob wedge (with a ping CFS wedge shaft), and was sucking crappy range balls back 20 feet right off of the 120 yard target green.

Anyway, it felt great, like every modus shaft, but it got replaced with a 125. It Still goes high and pretty spiny, but playable now.

Also remember the raw length in these is pretty long. Once you cut a 125 down to playing length you END UP around 125 grams.  You lose about 8 grams. The shaft also feels a little counterbalanced to me.  It definitely does not feel like a "heavy" shaft to me.

Edited by Jagpilotohio, 13 September 2017 - 10:48 AM.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:54 AM

How is the Modus 125 wedge ball flight compared to an S400?

Edited by Yosef, 13 September 2017 - 10:54 AM.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:32 AM

View PostYosef, on 13 September 2017 - 10:54 AM, said:

How is the Modus 125 wedge ball flight compared to an S400?

For me personally, a bit higher flight  and more spin but FAR better feeling. Flex is similar.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:54 AM

Played modus wedge for a long time. it is an 'okay' shaft at best. If OP wants to play this shaft: Choose the correct weight for swing balance.
Then switched to modus 120 x liked that one a lot. Stiff tip/soft mid combi is really nice.
Currently play the KBS 610. I like the lower flight.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:13 PM

I am in a similar boat. Went 120R in the wedges and not loving them (a bit too light). Considering moving to the 120S i have in my irons, the wedge 115 shaft, or back to dynamic gold.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:19 PM

I have made the switch to 120X stiff in irons and went with the 125 Wedge in 53/57.  Ill add some comments after the weekend.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:50 PM

View Postwis99ski, on 14 September 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

I have made the switch to 120X stiff in irons and went with the 125 Wedge in 53/57.  Ill add some comments after the weekend.

Any update?

For me - I have decided to stick with 120S in my gap wedge, but still want something maybe same weight or heavier and softer flex in my sand and lob wedges... the saga continues. Maybe 120S soft stepped or the 8 iron shaft trick?

Edited by jcg132, Yesterday, 12:58 PM.

Callaway Great Big Bertha Epic 8° - Oban Devotion 6 04 (44.5", Animal Style)
Callaway Great Big Bertha Epic 14.5° - Fujikura ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 Stiff (42.5", D3)
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