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165-170 yard total 7 iron = what flex


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#31 thed0n

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:05 PM

My 7i (traditional loft) carries 148-151, one hop then stops.  I use regular flex.  I'm in between flexes, probably hard step regular or soft step stiff.  But I'm cheap, and buy my clubs on Ebay so I can't really get what I exactly need.  With your numbers, I'd say stiff in a lighter shaft would be best (i.e., XP95 or something like that).

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:12 PM

That's my 7iron too and I had two iron fittings recently and both placed me in an X. It's definitely not all about yards and swing speeds.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:19 PM

As with any shaft - stiff/x-stiff/TX etc. all mean very little in my opinion.  The shaft profile and weight play much more bigger role.

For instance an x-stiff steelfiber 110 might be easier to hit for some than an S300 - just due to the weight differences.

Best thing to do is get fit and hit a lot of different shafts.  I've hit them all but keep coming back to the S400.

I carry my 7 iron 180 which probably calls for the X100 in terms of swing speed, but the S400 provided the most consistency for me.

It's all about what works for you, don't focus so much on the flex.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:38 PM

im sure its been said but you need to take all the data from a good launch monitor, launch, spin, decent angle, carry.  a good rule of thumb for a 7 iron is to spin in the 7000rpm range a little more a little less is ok but if you are only spinning it 5000rpm you are going to have a hard time holding any greens.  also if you hare producing to much spin 8000rpm you are loosing out on distance as the ball is most likely ballooning on you.  Im sure if you were to post your results with respects to launch, spin, decent and carry the gang here could help out a little more, also including the club head and shaft info would help as well.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:38 PM

OP, I don't think anyone has suggested this yet, but definitely try to get tested with the Mizuno shaft tool, which spits out several iron shaft recommendations and is pretty good about being in the ballpark for what works best for you.  I was playing R flex iron shafts, and then decided to get tested on the Mizuno tool. It spit out an X flex shaft as the top option, and several stiff shafts as next best.  From there, you can demo different shafts and see what works best, in terms of weight, profile, etc.  For me, it was definitely stiff shafts in the 105-110g range.

As an aside, I find the AWT 2.0 to be a pretty stiff shaft.  I had a set of Ping G's with the S flex, and it was a pretty stout shaft IMO.  You could probably get away with either R or S flex in the AWT 2.0, but based upon your carry distance, I would lean stiff for you generally speaking.  YMMV.  Good luck.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 02:12 PM

View Postmarshvegas, on 11 September 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

PING's web fit says AWT 2.0 regular flex.
Guy at the store says AWT 2.0 stiff flex.  

My swing speed doesn't justify stiff I don't think but my transition is quick.  

The tendinitis in my lead arm is holding me back from making a good pass at the ball too.

Play stiff.  You may want to think about using either Steelfiber CW 110s or Recoil F4 (110) to see if they may help with the tendonitis.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:05 AM

I recommmend some realm of stiff flex. Most people forget that there are different degrees of shaft flex. A KBS tour 90 stiff does not play like a DG s300. So if you want more flex go lighter or less flex go heavier.

Throwing a curve ball at you, you might consider graphite to help your arthritis
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:20 AM

Look at NS Pro shafts.  A few of them come in SR flex Stiff Regular targeted at players who are a bit beyond an R but not fast enough for an S.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:28 AM

There is so little difference between reg and stiff (in the same shaft make) that you will not hardly notice any difference at all, so i really wouldn't get too hung up on it, the only difference you might notice would be the weight, but if its the same make of shaft you probably wont notice much difference there either
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:28 AM

View PostYour-away!, on 12 September 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

There is so little difference between reg and stiff (in the same shaft make) that you will not hardly notice any difference at all, so i really wouldn't get too hung up on it, the only difference you might notice would be the weight, but if its the same make of shaft you probably wont notice much difference there either

True, I've got a set of Maxfli Revolution Blacks in DG R300 and I also have an Cobra Trusty Rusty Gap Wedge shafted with a DG S300 and there's little difference in feel between them.  But I was in a Sophie's Choice scenario, I'd choose the S300s.

Edited by cgasucks, 12 September 2017 - 08:29 AM.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:55 AM

I think that you should look into the Project X 5.5 or the 5.5 LZ. Sits right in the middle of regular and stiff. I know many people having success with this shaft. Especially guys with your swing speed.

Not sure if the Project X shaft is an up-charge with Ping or not but I know that the LZ is.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:07 AM

That's pretty close to my 7i distance (35* TA 845s), and I play a set of Rifle 6.0's soft stepped once.  It has been the best fit I've found.  I would say a stiff, but a lot will also depend on how hard you transition.  If you have a smooth transition, you could get away with hard stepping a regular and have a little more comfort on the wrists and elbows.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:38 AM

I know these on-line tools are just intended to give someone a ball-park estimate, but it drives me crazy when they provide recommendations based on how far you hit a 7-iron, given the current variation in 7-iron lofts from set to set. I mean there can be as much as 6 degrees difference between some of the GI  and player models when you look at 7-iron lofts.

You need to figure out if the tool is using similar lofts to the set your currently playing. In my experience, most of them seem to be using GI lofts now.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:39 AM

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.

1. Average is not a synonym for maximum. Most amateurs swing way too hard. I can hit a 7 170 carry easily. I don't have the iron game of a tour pro. It's like how music sounds better at a quarter volume on a 400 watt amp than Max volume on a 100 watt amp. The PGA average thing gets more and more pronounced the harder the club is to hit (i.e. 3 wood). There are a ton of people who can slam a 7 170.

2. "There is a lot for misinformation" doesn't mean "give up and don't try". It takes a while. I love my current shafts. I had to hit 25 or so to find them.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:52 AM

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:42 PM

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.

My guess is the average PGA Tour 7i loft is also 3-5* weaker.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:52 PM

I was fitted into stiff three years ago at age 53 - no monitor just me and the pro hitting balls off the 15th tee!

They have never felt perfect and when I got fit for my driver (shop/monitor) the fitter couldn't believe I had been fit to stiff.

My XR irons have speedstep 80 stiff

I'm lusting after G400 irons

Borrowed a 7 iron in reg on Sunday and played nine holes dropping a few balls at every 150 marker.

Club felt amazing. Loads more feel off the face and easier to swing than the XR

Took it out the bag to wipe clean at the pro shop....

I'd been given  KBS 120 stiff...... between thec ears is the biggest flex I think!
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:46 PM

View PostLancj1, on 12 September 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

I was fitted into stiff three years ago at age 53 - no monitor just me and the pro hitting balls off the 15th tee!

They have never felt perfect and when I got fit for my driver (shop/monitor) the fitter couldn't believe I had been fit to stiff.

My XR irons have speedstep 80 stiff

I'm lusting after G400 irons

Borrowed a 7 iron in reg on Sunday and played nine holes dropping a few balls at every 150 marker.

Club felt amazing. Loads more feel off the face and easier to swing than the XR

Took it out the bag to wipe clean at the pro shop....

I'd been given  KBS 120 stiff...... between thec ears is the biggest flex I think!

I think this is a good lesson for everyone.  If we were given unidentifiable shafts to hit and chose what felt best, I bet there would be some surprises.  Too many times when I am given a shaft to hit and I know what it is, I have a preconceived notion about how it should feel or what it should do in terms of ball flight.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:47 PM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 12 September 2017 - 10:39 AM, said:

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.

1. Average is not a synonym for maximum. Most amateurs swing way too hard. I can hit a 7 170 carry easily. I don't have the iron game of a tour pro. It's like how music sounds better at a quarter volume on a 400 watt amp than Max volume on a 100 watt amp. The PGA average thing gets more and more pronounced the harder the club is to hit (i.e. 3 wood). There are a ton of people who can slam a 7 170.

2. "There is a lot for misinformation" doesn't mean "give up and don't try". It takes a while. I love my current shafts. I had to hit 25 or so to find them.

1. Iron play and carry distance are not necessarily correlating values. Average being a much more relevant value, given tour pros rarely go full 11 on one. Therefore, if we understand that on any given week, 80-90% of them are playing an X of some sort, the people spouting off to be in regular XYZ should probably do some research.

2. It absolutely does take awhile. However, the blind leading the blind won't help.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:49 PM

View Postbladehunter, on 12 September 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.
Why does this post have to pop up every single time someone posts any distance number ?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:26 PM

36 7 Iron at 36 3/4" at Sea Level carries 172-174, finishes 175-176.

I play SteelFiber i110 Stiff in Irons and Wedges.

... I do however play Extra Stiff in Hybrids, Fairways and Driver.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:34 AM

View PostLancj1, on 12 September 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

I was fitted into stiff three years ago at age 53 - no monitor just me and the pro hitting balls off the 15th tee!

They have never felt perfect and when I got fit for my driver (shop/monitor) the fitter couldn't believe I had been fit to stiff.

My XR irons have speedstep 80 stiff

I'm lusting after G400 irons

Borrowed a 7 iron in reg on Sunday and played nine holes dropping a few balls at every 150 marker.

Club felt amazing. Loads more feel off the face and easier to swing than the XR

Took it out the bag to wipe clean at the pro shop....

I'd been given  KBS 120 stiff...... between thec ears is the biggest flex I think!
True that! I demoed the ctaper X for kicks. It felt fine. Not unhittable by any means, I've played r300s and they work great too. I don't know...might as well pick based on what you like

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 12 September 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

View PostHambone1, on 12 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

So much misinformation. Shaft flex varies so much from OEM to OEM, flex codes give a rough idea but are far more valuable to understand how a shaft compares to its correlating flexes.

Also, PGA Tour AVERAGE 7i carry is 172...please people, think before you type.
Why does this post have to pop up every single time someone posts any distance number ?

Best of the best. Why should we measure ourselves against par?
Because WRX has a reputation for inflated stats.

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