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165-170 yard total 7 iron = what flex


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#1 marshvegas

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:56 AM

PING's web fit says AWT 2.0 regular flex.
Guy at the store says AWT 2.0 stiff flex.  

My swing speed doesn't justify stiff I don't think but my transition is quick.  

The tendinitis in my lead arm is holding me back from making a good pass at the ball too.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:20 AM

The average 7 iron distance around here does seem to be closer to 200.  LOL

But seriously, if you are hitting a normal lofted 7 iron 170, you are making a good pass at the ball.  ( different story if hitting a 28 degree M2 7 iron at 7000 ft elevation, on hardpan, with a 40 mph helper wind )

Stiff flex.





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Edited by morgan1819, 11 September 2017 - 09:24 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:26 AM

View Postmarshvegas, on 11 September 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

PING's web fit says AWT 2.0 regular flex.
Guy at the store says AWT 2.0 stiff flex.  

My swing speed doesn't justify stiff I don't think but my transition is quick.  

The tendinitis in my lead arm is holding me back from making a good pass at the ball too.

sounds like you might be between reg and stiff, like me.... i usually go reg with a heavier shaft or possibly stiff with a lighter shaft

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:27 AM

I can only hit my 36 deg 7 iron 150 and it's in regular flex.  A guy like you...stiff for sure.  I would kill to hit a 7 iron that far.

Edited by cgasucks, 11 September 2017 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:28 AM

Depends on loft.  What heads?

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:29 AM

Stiff based off distance if loft is normal
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:30 AM

Whichever feels best to you, also depends on if lofts are jacked or not. I'd think it's closer to the stiff flex, but if you swing both and feel better with the regulars, get those. Otherwise consider a hard stepped regular or soft stepped stiff.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:31 AM

View Postcgasucks, on 11 September 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

I can only hit my 36 deg 7 iron 150 and it's in regular flex.  A guy like you...stiff for sure.  I would kill to hit a 7 iron that far.

most 7 irons or 31-ish* these days

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:39 AM

Surely the question is what is your carry 7i distance?  There must be more to fitting than just total distance and so launch, spin and landing angle all need to be considered.

If you are taking a punt in a big box store, then you'd be better off getting some more data and posting it.  Or ensuring they have a good returns policy!

With today's stronger lofts in lots of irons, I *think* you'd be looking at needing c6000 spin and you want a decent landing angle of c40° plus so that you have a mid iron that you can actually stop on the greens.

If you are carrying 165y that feels firmly in the stiff camp.  If you had something like 140 carry, 165 total that is a different story altogether!!

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:42 AM

Depends what loft. If it's a traditional 34*, then S flex or maybe even X depending on your swing. If it's one of the jacked up lofts like M2, then it's probably R or S, again, depending on swing.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:46 AM

I hit my 7 iron 150-155 and I was fit into a stiff.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:55 AM

My 35* 7 iron is about 160 yard club. I was fitted to an DG X100 soft-stepped once.

Obviously with the huge differences in lofts these days, its hard to tell based on distance alone
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:03 AM

Don't get overly fixated on club head speed (and therefore distance).  It's only a starting place for fitting process.  The final decision shouldn't be made just on that data.   Both the mechanics of the swing (more specifically how aggressive or smooth the players transition is) AND if the player has any particular preferences for feel from the shaft can play a much bigger part in the decision.

If you saw a guy at the store - then you should have the opportunity to demo both options to see which one works out better for you.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:14 AM

PING i200 - standard loft - junk maxfli balls in the bay - 160-165 carry.  

I thought it might be a juiced monitor but got similar distance on the course with a MP 25 7-iron and premium golf balls.

Launch was 18-20* and spin was 5000-5500 rpm's.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:18 AM

I hit my 7i(traditional loft) 170-175 yards and use DG S300's in them. But have been considering going to X100's though to bring flight down a hair.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:19 AM

I just looked the i200s up. 33* of loft on the i200 7 iron.

If you have a quicker transition at the top, you'll benefit from a bit of a stiffer shaft. That transition is as big of a factor as overall swing speed is. The harder/faster the transition, the more lag you'll create. Too soft of a shaft and you'll have too many issues consistently getting the clubhead back to square at impact.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:25 AM

For me the stiffer the shaft the better the results. My "swing speed" does not warrant a stiff shaft to some but the visual results prove otherwise. Which shaft produces the best results and feels the best is the shaft you need.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:37 AM

As many others have said, it depends on the loft of the irons. I would have to think that you're pretty comfortably in a stiff flex however, if that's the carry distance.

Another poster even mentioned X stiff, depending on the lofts.. my 7i is my normal 165-170 carry club (it's also the club that I hit different yardages with the most, as my comfort level is high with it and will squeeze out some extra, or knock some off of) and I'm in the X-stiff range, but my irons are generally a club weaker in loft than most of the new players irons (which when I test them, I'm in the 190 yard range), and sometimes over two clubs weaker than some of the newer irons out there.

Again, at that distance, even if it was a little less, I would think you're comfortably in a stiff flex. I would take the advice of the person that has seen your swing, vs a website, unless you carried it 140 and hit it really low and ran out to 165. I would really pay attention to spin rate. Some of the newer irons do launch nice and high, but it'll take a good bit of swing speed to create enough spin to hold a green with them, and that's pretty important for a 7i.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:40 AM

Depends on what the loft of the 7i in question is, but I would say an S Flex.  My 7i flies about the same at 32 degrees and I'm in S Flex.  I get next to no roll-out with any of my irons, so my carry and total are pretty similar.  I usually see 5i hit greens and only roll out 5 feet. Driver SS is in the 100-110 range.

I used to play MP-57 (35 degrees) with a heavy DG S300 and was still in the 160-165 carry range.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

View Postmarshvegas, on 11 September 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

PING's web fit says AWT 2.0 regular flex.
Guy at the store says AWT 2.0 stiff flex.  

My swing speed doesn't justify stiff I don't think but my transition is quick.  

The tendinitis in my lead arm is holding me back from making a good pass at the ball too.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:09 AM

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:41 AM

View Postmarshvegas, on 11 September 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

PING's web fit says AWT 2.0 regular flex.
Guy at the store says AWT 2.0 stiff flex.  

My swing speed doesn't justify stiff I don't think but my transition is quick.  

The tendinitis in my lead arm is holding me back from making a good pass at the ball too.


It's been about 10 years ago and I had been playing the DG S300 shaft for as long as I can remember.
Decided to try some other shafts from a Ping fitting cart...about five different shafts in the S57 head as I recall.
Several were Ping shafts and the S300 and the X100.
Went through all except the x100 and found a fit of variation in flight as they were all stiff flex.

Then....first hit with the x100 and WOW!  Dead straight, on a string and stable ball flight and excellent height.  BINGO.

The moral..... go with the stiffest shaft that you get the correct height for that # shaft.  The stiffer shaft will have less torque and flex and get you more consistency.  If you get the correct height, you will be fine for distance.  Normally too stiff will be too low and less distance.
For me it was and still is the Xstiff shaft.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:45 AM

That my distance for my 7 iron, but mine is 35*

I play X flex 1/2" long

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:51 AM

If you're in between flexes, definitely go stiffer if you have a quick transition.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:03 PM

I recently switched to reg shafts from stiff and it clearly was a mistake as I'm now getting a ballooning flight , back to stiff for me . My 7 iron is a 165 club in stiff but have lost distance with the reg shaft


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:26 PM

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:31 PM

Carry plus roll I'm guessing although I rarely have any with a seven iron. More one hop and stop

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:34 PM

Gotcha.  Never really considered having any roll with a 7 iron.  Hmmm. Well. 170 is my stock shot with a 7.  And it's usually sitting a foot or less from the pitch mark. And I'm playing 130g x flex. So I doubt distance will correlate at all with what flex you should play
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:59 PM

Carry is between 160-165 and total with roll is about 165-170.

These balls are pretty beat and worn so spin is low and I think they run a little more than normal.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:02 PM

I've been a 'tweener for a while and keep bouncing back forth between regular and stiff.  I have good and bad days with both.  With regular, I have a little higher ball flight and some ballooning and greater dispersion but it feels better.  With stiff, mid ball flight, no ballooning and tighter dispersion but it feels harsh.  The stiff is great on well struck shots.

I don't know if I should just hit the gym this off season and build up some forearm muscle and gain a little more flexibility or succumb to old(er) age and nagging injuries.


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