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#1 dimitrib

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

Well when Sang Moon Bae gets back in the lineup and if they picked Tanihara to pair up Hideki, I'd watch out. I like to see another President Cup like last year, though i still want USA win.

They should redo the format to have 4 teams (USA, Europe, Asia, ROW) and 8 players per team and you have be 30 or under to play. Play doubles Thrusday, Friday and Saturday, two teams play alternate shot, two teams play best ball. Sunday all players play singles in the morning, and then 4 of your players play in the afternoon as well. For a grand total 48 points. Most points wins. If there is a tie, top point winner from the tied teams play a 3 hole playoff, then sudden death.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 07:06 PM

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

Not in our lifetimes.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:13 PM

Just worked the member guest at Liberty and the course is so f'kin pure

Absolutely the best course I've ever walked on.

The views are worth the 200k+ membership

Greens were tricky but there should be plenty of birdies. They're using the 5th hole as the 1st hole for the event.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:46 PM

View PostCreedo77, on 10 September 2017 - 08:13 PM, said:

Just worked the member guest at Liberty and the course is so f'kin pure

Absolutely the best course I've ever walked on.

The views are worth the 200k+ membership

Greens were tricky but there should be plenty of birdies. They're using the 5th hole as the 1st hole for the event.

I bought extra memory for my camera when i played there for 2 straight days. the views are breathtaking. I was like a tourist non stop snapping and filming. Heck you line up your shot with the statue of liberty!!!


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:28 PM

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

View PostPGArox, on 10 September 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

Not in our lifetimes.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 11:26 PM

View PostDarth Putter, on 10 September 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

View PostPGArox, on 10 September 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

Not in our lifetimes.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:05 AM

I'd like to see Scott and Day fired up for that event, last time, in Korea I believe, they seemed almost aloof and if it wasn't for Grace and Matsuyama, it would have been absolutely boring.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:29 AM

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

No. This event is a joke. I won't be watching.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:30 AM

View Postdimitrib, on 10 September 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Will the world ever overcome the US dominance at this event?

Certainly not this year however when it becomes a mixed event and loses a couple of Aussies who couldn't care less, the Intls may be some show.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 04:00 AM

Every year this is on, as an outsider, prior to the event I think to myself I am looking forward to it.

Every year that it's on though, I end up thinking, well that was a waste of time. Poor cousin of the Ryder Cup and it always will be.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:44 AM

Maybe when the team largely comprises of South Korean's, the balance could shift?

The format of 10 out of 12 players playing in the first four series' give the US team a massive advantage as the World pairings are harder to gel. Switching to a Ryder cup 8 from 12 would make the matches more even.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:34 AM

what was the big knock on this course when the fedex played there? were they complaining about the holes being on top of each other?
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:51 AM

What about Charles Hoffman?

He has a great swing and a bunch of high finishes, but he doesn't win that much when he's in contention.  He's also not known to be a great putter.  Match play is all about putting and winning, so he doesn't seem to be a natural fit.



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.    

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:05 AM

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.

So you're saying that Phil will have some monies channeled through his "associates" directed to various "causes"?
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:09 AM

View Postebrasmus21, on 11 September 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.

So you're saying that Phil will have some monies channeled through his "associates" directed to various "causes"?


With a high degree of probability, one could say that there was a deal struck for Phil to play.  
The "extent" and "terms" of that deal are details we will never know, unfortunately.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:35 AM

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 11 September 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.

So you're saying that Phil will have some monies channeled through his "associates" directed to various "causes"?


With a high degree of probability, one could say that there was a deal struck for Phil to play.  
The "extent" and "terms" of that deal are details we will never know, unfortunately.

I concur with that assessment.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:42 AM

View Postcinnepa, on 11 September 2017 - 07:34 AM, said:

what was the big knock on this course when the fedex played there? were they complaining about the holes being on top of each other?

Yeah, there is not a lot of room; the holes are slammed right up against each other.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:22 PM

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 11 September 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.

So you're saying that Phil will have some monies channeled through his "associates" directed to various "causes"?


With a high degree of probability, one could say that there was a deal struck for Phil to play.  
The "extent" and "terms" of that deal are details we will never know, unfortunately.


As they say in poker, Ferguson is "pot committed."

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:29 PM

Hold the next one in Antarctica.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:46 PM

View PostDarth Putter, on 11 September 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 11 September 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.

So you're saying that Phil will have some monies channeled through his "associates" directed to various "causes"?


With a high degree of probability, one could say that there was a deal struck for Phil to play.  
The "extent" and "terms" of that deal are details we will never know, unfortunately.


As they say in poker, Ferguson is "pot committed."

Darth, you regularly make me laugh on here.  Pot committed got me good.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:55 PM

this is really becoming more of an exhibition and not a competition..

i would probably watch it just to see in person how they swing, how far they hit it,what clubs they're using, etc... and i would be spending more actual time on the range and just watch the action on tv..

not a question anymore of who wins but by how much ...

i predict this will not go on for much longer unless for some reason the world starts winning..

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:09 PM

View PostDarth Putter, on 11 September 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:


As they say in poker, Ferguson is "pot committed."

I'd say "crackpot" is more like it.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:48 AM

View PostDarth Putter, on 11 September 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 11 September 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 11 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

President’s vs. Ryder

1.    4 days of play instead of 3
2.    Everyone plays
3.    No ties on Sunday


I think the American Squad dominates because no one cares if they win.   The players are loose and make more putts and clutch shots.   If anything should be properly tagged as a "fan event" this is it.

What bugs me is they say no one makes money (the players).  BS.  Trust me – Money is made and then channeled through partners.

This is right off the website:  “Each competitor designates golf-related projects of his choice to receive a portion of the funds raised through the staging of each Presidents Cup.”


That could mean anything.

So you're saying that Phil will have some monies channeled through his "associates" directed to various "causes"?


With a high degree of probability, one could say that there was a deal struck for Phil to play.  
The "extent" and "terms" of that deal are details we will never know, unfortunately.


As they say in poker, Ferguson is "pot committed."

Here he was before hitting post...

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:29 AM

The world team will become competitive in the near future. Just need to address comrodarie/pairing issues. Given the right course for the internationals I think the gap isn't as big as everyone makes it seem.

I think it'll be pretty close this year, even being at a tree-lined parkland style NJ course. My guy Lahiri will redeem himself and get some points this time time around too.

I think North American golf fans are quite spoiled. This is a very meaningful event overseas even when it's not competitive. Seeing your respective players representing the international side means a lot to amateurs and fans. It does help grow the game a bit in each of those countries too. I can personally attest that every time a south Asian is playing in a meaningful international golf event, thousands of young bucks are very motivated to start playing or playing harder.

We gotta stop viewing these events impact as just something we watch from our AC blaring suburb homes. The impact is there, just maybe not on this side. I hope this event continues as boring as it is to some. International side will eventually have too much talent for this not to become very close one day. Can't give up on it just yet.

It's like ending Olympic basketball cause USA is too dominant. There is still pride for nations who win silver or bronze. There is also upsets like Argentina in 04 which led to thousands of youth playing basketball afterwards. Spain has consistently gotten better too.

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#27 iBanesto

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:28 AM

Why did they pick Lahiri?!

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#28 Ferguson

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:01 AM

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The “agent”  that helped to facilitate the deal.

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#29 Oz Max

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:11 AM

View PostiBanesto, on 12 September 2017 - 03:28 AM, said:

Why did they pick Lahiri?!
to promote the game in the potential emerging markets maybe?

Edited by Oz Max, 12 September 2017 - 08:12 AM.


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#30 pmadden86

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:54 AM

All that membership $$$ and they cant put a 4k drone vid on their homepage - heck even a HD video would do, sack marketing department and i'll be happy to step in.


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