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#1 tuftskec

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:22 PM

I have Nike Vapor Fly Pro 2 Iron that is currently shafted with a KBS Tour X that I want to experiment with. I recently switched to DG X100s in my irons and was considering reshafting it with an X100...

Then I got to thinking about turning it into a more dedicated driving iron for something I can rely on to find fairways. I had a store credit so I recently purchased a Matrix hM3 Black Tie 105 Hybrid shaft. The shaft is a .370 tip so I am going to have to shave it down to fit the .355 hosel.

Any tips for shaving down the shaft? I have read about carefully cutting away layers with an exacto knife and/or sanding carefully.

Anybody have any experience with the Black Tie hybrid shaft? Should be the low spin/low launch I am looking for. I will post progress of the experiment and hopefully results once I build the club.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:19 PM

Just sand 3/8"-1/2" of the tip a little at a time and keep dry testing fit.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:59 AM

Quick update: Club built, just sanded down tip, super easy. The results are better than expected. I took it to the range yesterday and honestly have never been more impressed with a club that quickly. Easy to work left and right but still wants to go mostly straight. Longer than expected too. I believe I have a 250-270 fairway finder now.

Only issue I have is that the head is a little light once the club was built. I am going to add a little lead tape to get the desired swingweight.

Overall, I highly recommend this setup and or shaft.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:40 PM

View Posttuftskec, on 12 September 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

Quick update: Club built, just sanded down tip, super easy. The results are better than expected. I took it to the range yesterday and honestly have never been more impressed with a club that quickly. Easy to work left and right but still wants to go mostly straight. Longer than expected too. I believe I have a 250-270 fairway finder now.

Only issue I have is that the head is a little light once the club was built. I am going to add a little lead tape to get the desired swingweight.

Overall, I highly recommend this setup and or shaft.


What playing length did you settle on?  Did it play really light or just a little more light than you prefer?

I'm about to build up a 2 or 3i as a DI using this shaft.  Play the 95x in my 16deg hybrid.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 07:55 AM

I went with 40" for the 2 Iron.

Its a light swingweight. Came in around D0 range. It didnt effect performance at the range at all but I like a little more weight in the clubhead. Hopefully I can put a little lead tape on it and get some the swingweight up a bit.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

I'm a huge proponent of the driving iron with graphite hybrid shaft setup - one of my favorite clubs to experiment with and use on the course. Plus, they're usually really cool looking!

A bit of lead tape should fix your problem with the swingweight in short order.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:30 AM

can you hotmelt the VFP irons in the toe port to help with sound and bring the SW up???
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:20 AM

I was wondering the same thing about the hot melt. I would definitely prefer that as a permanent solution once I figure out how much weight I want with the lead tape.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:37 AM

I did something similar with a Mizuno MP-H5 21* and a Ping 707 TFC hybrid shaft.  It was already .355 so was easy to slip in.

It performed well enough to kick out my 18* 2H and allowed me to gap my wedges better.

Now I have an easier decision with only 3 clubs off the tee box instead of 4 and an extra wedge for scoring where emphasis should be anyway.

Gotta credit Jordan Spieth for putting this idea in my head.
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Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:52 PM

I just ordered a vapor fly pro 2 iron. How are you liking it? I have a tour ad driving iron shaft ready to install in it. Hoping it blends well with the jpx 900 forged irons.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:11 PM

I love my VFP 2 iron with the hybrid shaft in it. Very easy to hit. I think you will be happy with yours. Just watch your swing weight. I had to add lead tape to the head.
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 09:00 PM

Has anyone ever tried reaming the club head to 370? I have srixon u45 and a hzrdus black hybrid shaft and was trying to decide to ream the club head or try the method of sanding the hybrid shaft to 355 tip. What are your thoughts?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:23 AM

View Postcsmorimo, on 01 October 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

Has anyone ever tried reaming the club head to 370? I have srixon u45 and a hzrdus black hybrid shaft and was trying to decide to ream the club head or try the method of sanding the hybrid shaft to 355 tip. What are your thoughts?

Reaming would work, in my opinion it's better to ream than to sand the shaft down to fit.  Either way it's not very much maerial to remove.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:00 AM

If I do ream, how much weight do you think would come off? I'm trying to get my DI to a SW 8. Has anyone experience this?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:39 PM

View Postcsmorimo, on 02 October 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

If I do ream, how much weight do you think would come off? I'm trying to get my DI to a SW 8. Has anyone experience this?

I cannot recall the amount precisely from a before and after(I recall around 1 gram), but based on calculation of  bore volumes of a .355" dia cylinder vs a .370" dia cylinder with a bore depth of 1.25" and steel @ 500lbs/ft^3 then you are looking at 1.4 grams.  I would think that  1-2 gram weight difference should be expected.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:32 PM

Thanks carvallo

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:55 PM

View Postcsmorimo, on 02 October 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

If I do ream, how much weight do you think would come off? I'm trying to get my DI to a SW 8. Has anyone experience this?

Very little material is removed.  1/2 gram to 1g at the most

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:00 PM

So would you guys recommend reaming the club head or shaving the tip to.355?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:58 PM

View PostCwebb, on 02 October 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

View Postcsmorimo, on 02 October 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

If I do ream, how much weight do you think would come off? I'm trying to get my DI to a SW 8. Has anyone experience this?

Very little material is removed.  1/2 gram to 1g at the most

Agreed, my simple calculation did not fudge in taper or countersinking, etc., which should work out less.  I haven't done one in a while and dont have notes from that build. I do remember it not being an issue at all from weight perspective.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:06 PM

View Postcsmorimo, on 02 October 2017 - 10:00 PM, said:

So would you guys recommend reaming the club head or shaving the tip to.355?

Depends on your budget or level of trade craft.  I prefer reaming but both methods are sound.  Do you own a drill press or know anyone who is a machine shop guy?  If not take it to clubmaker.

Cheaper option is to file/sand it down and glue in.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:10 PM

I don't own a drill press. This will be my first experience, so I think I'll take it to a club maker. Proply club champion. I don't want to ruin the hzrdus shaft on my first try. I think I'll buy a cheap 370 hybrid shaft and experiment it by sanding it down for another DI

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:53 AM

View Postcsmorimo, on 02 October 2017 - 11:10 PM, said:

I don't own a drill press. This will be my first experience, so I think I'll take it to a club maker. Proply club champion. I don't want to ruin the hzrdus shaft on my first try. I think I'll buy a cheap 370 hybrid shaft and experiment it by sanding it down for another DI
For me it depends on the shaft im using. If using graphite, sand the shaft, quick and easy. If steel, ream the head. Spend the extra bucks on a reamer tool at golfworks instead of messing it up with a press
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:05 AM

Thanks for the tip

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

I think sanding down the shaft is the easier option. I sanded down the .370 shaft I put in my .355 2 iron. It was very easy, only took a couple minutes. Sand a little, dry fit...sand a little, dry fit...
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